NC STATE vs MIAMI Preview (Part Deux)

Yes my fellow Wolfpackers, it’s that time again, please stop breathing so loud and pass me the aspirin. It’s time to discover if the good guys are able to shake off another Temple-of-Doom-heart-ripped-out-through-their-chests last second loss and muster up enough to beat the hapless Canes or will they suffer from another Hangover. We all remember the effort put forth 3 days after the Syracuse game down in Clemson, while Miami is not Clemson and the game is in Raleigh there is the very real probability the boys in red simply won’t have the heart to compete and turn one loss into two, maybe more.

Time: 12:00
TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Tim Brandt, Cory Alexander

Recap of last meeting:

ACC leading scorer T.J. Warren scored 19 of his 27 points in the second half to help lead NC State to a 56-55 win over Miami on Saturday.

Ralston Turner scored 16 of his 17 points in the first half for NC State (15-8, 5-5), which was won four of five.

Rion Brown’s 20 points led Miami (11-12, 2-8), which dropped to 0-6 in conference home games.

Miami’s Raphael Akpejiori had a chance to tie the game at the free-throw line with 3.5 seconds left. He had grabbed an offensive rebound following a miss by Manu Lecomte, who scored 13 points.

Akpejiori, who was 4 for 4 from the line this season, made the first and missed the second.

The rebound was corralled by Kyle Washington, who missed both free throws and Brown’s three-quarter heave was well short.

NC State shot 37.8 percent from the field (17 for 45) including 7 for 20 from behind the 3-point arc and sank 15 of 20 from the free-throw line. Miami, which came into the game shooting under 40 percent from the floor, shot 33.3 percent (17 for 51) for the game and 28.6 percent (8 for 28) in the second half.

So what’s been going on since the Pack took a trip to Miami 3 weeks ago and escaped with a 56-55 victory that quite possibly could have been another last second loss when Kyle Washington was shockingly not called for a foul on Rion Brown’s 3/4 court heave?

Well the Pack has gone 2-3, beating up on Wake Forest and VT and had heartbreaking loses to Syracuse and UNC with a crushing defeat at Clemson where the original hangover began. Also, TJ Warren has had three +30 point games. Miami has gone 3-2, winning @FSU, Notre Dame, and BC while losing @VT (How? How do you ever lose to this VT team?) and @UVA.

If you need a refresher of the Miami roster then check out my first preview of them here.

So let’s take a look at each team’s conference only tempo free stats.

Want to know the difference between Miami and NC State? Not a heck of a lot. Besides Miami not having (who should be but won’t) ACC POY TJ Warren, the only 2 things that stand out between these 2 teams is Defensive Rebounding and Sending the opposition to the Free Throw Line. One contributing to the other. What do I mean? The Pack’s inability to get a defensive rebound leads to multiple opportunities for their opponents take shots. Many offensive rebounds happen right around the basket. Why isn’t the Pack getting the rebound? Well they are either trying to block a shot they can’t possibly block and thus are out of position or they aren’t boxing out and are thus out of position. When the opposition gets an offensive rebound under the basket that usually leads to a quick put back attempt. When that happens the Pack is usually trying to block a shot they can’t possibly block which is likely to end up fouling the opposition.

NOT SO FUN FACT
NC State has lost 3 games this season by 1 point. Can you guess which ones?

ADVANTAGES

At least we’ve got Offensive Rebounding going for us.


So they can’t score but that’s okay, the Pack will give them as many chances as it takes until they do.

PREDICTION
KenPom thinks the Pack will win by 4. What do I think? I think if I could predict the outcome of games I wouldn’t be doing this.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #43718
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Yassir… Bossman…

    POP!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43719
    SaccoV
    Participant

    I think the officials in this game sucked. And they blew. Does that mean that we can charge Swoff with running a prostitution ring?

    #43721
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    pak, since I’m not the only mod here I’m not gonna debate what is or isn’t on page 9.

    But…and this is a big but…do you really want to continue this just for argument’s sake? You’re looking like a huge dickhole at the moment. And that’s coming from someone who has been on your side for most of these differences of opinion lately.

    #43723
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Sorry for pointing out that similar comments had been deleted.

    #43725
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    You’re looking like a huge dickhole at the moment.

    If I was a Moderator, I’d delete this…

    FWIW… If threads needed to be deleted … that was two days ago… when nothing happened… not so much today.

    And it might be a good idea to sticky post the new rules so ‘everybody’ knows what they are and hopefully follows so this inane naming calling and such can finally cease.

    In the meantime…. perhaps we should all follow the proper examples of the wise and esteemed, wigged members whose privileges rise far above WP10, who unbeknownst to each other, appeared to have fallen short of consistently fulfilling their duties and responsibilities to the masses on Thursday last …. and at least elevate the level of our insults to the polite “British” level…

    selah

    POP!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43726
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    You go bill.

    POP!!!

    #43727
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    POP..,

    Most refreshing, too.

    #43728
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Let’s predict some stuff, just for fun.

    NC State shoots 70% from the line, Miami’s FTR will be 1.5x NC States.

    Somebody on Miami with have 4+ 3s, somebody for Miami will either have 10+ rebounds OR we will be out rebounded by at least 5 rebounds.

    How’d I do…..

    NC State shot 67% FT. They were just over 70% but boned me right at the end by missing a couple.
    Miami’s FTR was 67% vs 42% for State -> 1.5x
    Lecomte only hit 3 3s. But he was 3-3. I can only assume he didn’t hit at least one more to make me wrong.
    Jekiri had 13 rebounds, AND Miami out rebounded us by 8. I should have called that one.

    Over all….not bad.

    #43731
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    …post deleted by ???

    Wufpacker.. did you delete my last post ??

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43732
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Paki…not bad.
    Where’s your POP!!?

    Or that Woodford Reserve?

    Bottoms up.

    #43733
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    POP!!!!

    #43734
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … paky…

    You do understand that the number of explanation marks should reflect the number of times the POP has occurred in each session don’t you?

    Excessive POPPING off will be deleted by the mods…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43735
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … paky…

    You do understand that the number of explanation marks should reflect the number of times the POP has occurred in each session don’t you?

    Excessive POPPING off will be deleted by the mods…
    __________

    MR. Dog… since you were serving the greater good and unable to watch the game today… I left something in the post game just for you back on page nine…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43736
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    You do understand that the number of explanation marks should reflect the number of times the POP has occurred in each session don’t you?

    I did not know that! But I’m pretty safe on that front.

    The damage.

    #43737
    vtpackfan
    Participant

    Last dip in Greensboro ACC style just now. Pack men finish the championship swimming like they started by dominating the relays.

    We end up finishing second to Virginia Tech because of Diving-we only had one diver and he did not score well. Oh well, tons of fun and State set tons of school records and ACC ones too.

    Great job by second year coach and alum Brandon Halloway and his team.

    #43738
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    ^^That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen on here in a while.

    #43741
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    …post deleted by ???

    Wufpacker.. did you delete my last post ??

    No bill. Contrary to popular belief I haven’t deleted yours or anyone else’s posts.

    I simply asked (nicely) that we stop targeting specific posters with repeated kindergarten level antics. A simple enough request one would think, but not with this crew apparently.

    Even that had to turn into a passive/aggressive pissing contest for some.

    #43743
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I simply asked (nicely) that we stop targeting specific posters with repeated kindergarten level antics. A simple enough request one would think, but not with this crew apparently.

    Even that had to turn into a passive/aggressive pissing contest for some.

    I have not deleted any posts either but if I am going to be accused of it I might as well get teh enjoyment out of it. So I am going to start blitzkrieging one particular poster.

    #43745
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    come on wuf…
    I was just making a joke…

    everybody here needs to lighten up….
    and quit making and taking everything so personal…

    we are all on the same team.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43746
    redcanine
    Participant

    Good Morning.

    #43755
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    For the record and to fuel the fire, I thought the refs did their Swoffy’s best job today. During our last run about @ the 7:00-5:30 mark, they called a series of questionable calls including 2 charges against our best player. They also called a series of moving violations which completely changed the pace of the game and killed our momentum.

    I knew we were completely doomed right then. Took the crowd out of it too. Nobody knew what the heck was happening but the refs gave our coach a “nice” warning.

    When a team has been kicked as much as we have by the refs and its a young team on top of that…….they get discouraged. That sucking sound was from our team having the wind knocked out of them. Gott did good to not get beat by 30 (did you see him grab Warren- it didn’t help) but he should have caused a big enough scene to get tossed from the game.

    Refs totally changed the dynamics of that game too. This was the point trying to make on the other thread. Momentum and runs are everything especially when a team fights back.

    THIS is the difference between basketball and football. And…there’s a pattern here.

    #43756
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    It was this way with Lowe- the disagreements. People hate losing especially when we feel like we played well enough to win. No team is going to hit 100% and have 0 turnovers if they are playing super hard and taking chances.

    Some think that we should sit on our hands and accept our fate and one day the good lord will smile down on us and make it all better (or that the government will one day take care of all our problems – yes that was completely passive aggressive but I’m a woman so I’m allowed.)

    There are others who are a bit more aggressive and would like to affect/control what they can with regards to fate.

    Trust in Yow but this ref situation makes me like the sport (that I used to love)less.

    #43757
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    I probably deserve to have parts of my post deleted but thanks just the same!

    I spent probably 30 mins putting the referee argument into a business model to illustrate league design. Clicked on the submit button which cycled through and then the darn thing never showed up. Yes, I didn’t spend time writing it again because it was just too much time. In short, a message may have never been officially posted for what ever reason. Technology is not perfect for the impatient and for the slow thinkers.

    That being said….I love this website design and the moderators have been outstanding (and beyond patient). It’s working well. Issues have been hot.

    #43758
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    come on wuf…<br>
    I was just making a joke…

    everybody here needs to lighten up….<br>
    and quit making and taking everything so personal…

    we are all on the same team.

    Hear hear! Can’t we all be rational and non-inflammatory in the nature of brother bill here and treat our fellow posters with dignity and respect?

    Contrary to popular belief I haven’t deleted yours or anyone else’s posts.

    Cool your jets man. I was pointing out posts had been deleted. You guys are individual posters, but you’re also collectively THE MODS. I get that you guys don’t necessarily know what each other are doing, but to the average plebe like me, (and excepting Rick, who despite his claims to the contrary has made it a point to bait me and then delete my posts in the past), it doesn’t matter who did it, only that it happened.

    Maybe it would be a good idea to have a posting guideline, and make sure anything deleted is deleted because it doesn’t meet the standard, because right now it seems awfully arbitrary, and one mod seems to have a hard-on for some posters. Case in point, this thread.

    For the record, if I had to guess, I think it was BJD that deleted bill’s and my posts in this thread.

    #43762
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    Bill, honestly was your post that good to begin with?

    Sometimes, you just have to ask yourself the question. Did it benefit society?

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