A Closer Look at Unbalanced Schedules

Ever since the ACC dropped the round-robin regular season schedule, the actual strength of each team’s conference schedule varies based on which teams are played twice.   One month into the regular season, we took a quick look at what was happening based on calculations posted at cbssports.com.   But last Monday, CBS took the conference SOS off their breakdown page for each team.    I don’t know what happened, but I have to wonder if they found something wrong in the math and decided that it was easier/quicker to drop the info than to fix it.

In the past, I’ve taken a mathematical look at unbalanced conference scheduling a number of different ways.   But there was no way that I was going to have time to recreate one of my previous techniques.   So in a flash of brilliance (or perhaps laziness), I decided to just look at each team’s four home/home opponents and total their conference wins.   Here’s an illustration of what I’m talking about by showing the strongest and weakest schedules for the 2013/2014 regular season:

WF vs UVA

This technique has a number of built-in error checks that can be done and obviously I didn’t find any or I wouldn’t be posting it.   If anyone else with no life finds a problem, please let me know.

Doing that same calc for the other 13 teams gives the following table and graph:

ACC SOS

 

ACC SOS Graph

 

One of the “dangers” of looking at strength of schedule is that the best teams’ schedules are inherently weaker because they don’t play themselves…and the converse is true for the teams at the bottom of the conference.   The above technique avoids this by only looking at the small number of opponents that each teams plays twice during the regular season.      I’ll use this technique in the future unless CBS puts their conference SOS back up.

The one potential drawback that I see is that the four teams that play UVA twice will get a bigger bump in SOS than might be warranted since UVA’s record comes against such an easy conference schedule.   But when you look at the list of upset losses, you see that SYR, Duke, and UNC all lost two games to teams playing on ACCT Wednesday while UVA swept the bottom of the conference.    So while I’m not claiming that this technique is perfect, it doesn’t suck either.

There’s nothing more dangerous than a little knowledge.   The point of this entire exercise was to see who ended up at the top and bottom of schedule strength…not make a big deal about small differences among the teams in the middle.   For instance, here’s a table to look at before anyone runs to their UNC friends about their weak conference schedule:

Duke_State_UNC

Line #1 is equivalent.  Line #3 is identical.   Line #4 is nearly equivalent.   This leaves the variation in schedule strength between Duke, UNC, and State to the differences in just one opponent.

Duke’s opponent (SYR) >  State’s opponent (Pitt) > UNC’s opponent (State).   So the difference in schedule difference between UNC and State…is that UNC played State twice.

 

Side Rant:   Conference Size

With the expanded ACC, here is how the conference basketball schedules were configured over the past three years:

  • 12 teams and 16 games – 3 home; 3 away and 5 home/home
  • 12 teams and 18 games – 2 home; 2 away and 7 home/home
  • 15 teams and 18 games – 5 home; 5 away and 4 home/home

That’s right…the worst schedule is the one that we will watch every year for the foreseeable future.

10 teams is the largest size where round robin schedules in football and basketball make sense.   9 football games and 18 basketball games would make a 12-team conference acceptable.    But the ACC has gone for quantity to make up for a lack of quality and we have the mess you see:

  • Football schedules where you don’t play some teams twice in a DECADE.
  • Basketball schedules where the relative strength varies by nearly a factor of two.

Oh well, back to the SOS discussion.

One drawback of any math-based system is that there is no credit given for home vs away games.   With the ACC’s system of five teams only at home and five only away, which teams you play away could have a noticeable impact on a schedule’s actual toughness beyond what any calculation would show.   For example, let’s look at the top four seeds and their results against each other:

Top vs each other

Once again we see that UVA’s schedule is the easiest both in total games and location.   The interesting comparison comes when you compare Duke’s to UNC’s.   Duke’s schedule ranks tougher when looking at total games against the top-4.  But UNC’s difficulty increases when you consider that they only played one of these toughest games at home.   (Same comparison applies to SYR and UNC.)

I’ve always backed up whatever numerical technique I’ve used with a table to see if the numbers make sense.    I’ve noted which games were away (read along the rows) to see if anything jumps out.   It’s also important to break down the schedule comparisons among the various strata within the conference.   For instance, absolutely no one cares how VT’s schedule compares with Clemson’s unless they are fighting for the same ACCT seed.   So here’s the master regular-season schedule:

Master BB Schedule

 

Here are some things that stood out to me:

–        About one month into the conference schedule, Pitt, FSU, and WF started tanking.   Pitt and FSU dropped into the mess in the middle and WF’s seven-game losing streak dropped them into the bottom six.

–        These changes affected Clemson the most because they played all three teams twice.   So Clemson’s conference SOS turned out to be much weaker than I projected earlier in the season.

–        Maryland got a nice upset in their last game against UVA and finished the season at 9-9.    But seven of those wins came against the bottom-six teams and most of those were at home.    Does anyone still wonder why a 0.500 conference record can be woefully insufficient for a NCAAT bid?

–        Pitt’s schedule against the bottom six is just about perfect.    They played the minimum number of games against the bottom-six and played four of those on the road.    This distribution maximizes SOS by minimizing games against the bad teams and maximizes the chances of winning on the road which gives a real boost in the RPI calculations.

–        Pitt’s OOC SOS ranks 224th.   Where would Pitt be if they had played UVA’s conference schedule?   Answer:   Their overall SOS would drag their RPI down and they would find themselves on the wrong side of the bubble.

–        This means that Pitt lucked out several different ways in their first ACC schedule.

  • They got an overall tough ACC schedule which helped offset their weak OOC schedule.
  • Their tough ACC schedule was built by minimizing games against the bottom of the conference instead of increasing the number of games against the top-4 (which they would have likely lost).
  • Most of the games against the bottom-six were on the road which helped their RPI far more than home wins would have.
  • If you are going to go 0-5 against the top four seeds (like Pitt), then you want to play the team with the best overall record twice (just like Pitt).

 

CONCLUSION

How many wins does UVA forfeit for an easy schedule?     None

How many losses does WF get to remove for a hard schedule?   None

Does conference SOS figure into NCAAT selection and seeding?     AFAICT, only through its effect on RPI.

So why are we talking about conference SOS?

I knew before I started working on this entry, that the subject wouldn’t appeal to everyone.    But during the days of the Great Herb Debate, I got intensely interested in the Bubble discussions because that’s where State ended up in four of Herb’s last five years.  Combine that personal interest with a general desire to understand how things work….and you end up with my discussions on RPI, key wins, bad losses, and of course, strength of schedule.

Pulling things apart to see how things work lets us see issues before they blow up in our face.   For instance:

–        There were very few readers around here surprised when UVA ended up in the NIT last year with an 11-7 record.   I work with several UVA fans that were shocked.

–        In Sid’s first year, one of our readers was sorely disappointed when he was told that State had no chance at a NCAAT bid even though they made it to the ACCT finals.   He left in a huff but had the guts to come back and admit that he was wrong after the Sunday night Selection Show.

–        I have several VT friends that seriously believe that Greenburg and VT missed the NCAAT one year because of an upset loss to a bad Richmond team.   They are convinced that a 20th win would have made the difference.   After a while, it’s just easier to let them think whatever they want to.   (But don’t think for a minute that I will let State fans off that easily.)

–          I’m not going to go through my basic rant on the importance of OOC scheduling.   But the huge variations in conference scheduling that are possible with the new, over-sized ACC simply add to the importance of intelligent OOC scheduling.

So basically you are the type of person that likes to understand what’s happening as the season unfolds or you’re content with just watching the games and hoping for the best.    There’s nothing wrong with either approach, but it should be obvious which category I fit in.

 

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  • #45468
    13OT
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    Instead of waiting for yet another ACC team, how about at least re-aligning for football NOW? Place the Big Four, GT, FSU and Clemson in one division, and the rest of the league in the other. You would have primarily old ACC rivalries in one division and old Big East rivalries in the other. Even if you argue that this wouldn’t work, how can anyone admit that having FSU, Clemson and now Louisville in the same division gives balance? I have nothing against Duke, but there is no way in hell the Devils would have made it to Charlotte via the Atlantic Division.

    I do like randygupton’s re-alignment proposal, and I would keep UVA in the “ACC” division, not bring in Miami. But why do we have to have divisions in the first place? Why can’t the league simply give each team 4 primary playing partners and rotate everyone else equally on the schedule?

    The ACC has become a league of haves and have-nots, and the have-nots are being shafted in the scheduling. Nowhere was that clearer than seeing WF, VT and Clemson dumped from the ACC-B1G Challenge for 3 new teams who had never played an ACC game. And you can bet that Duke, UNC, Syracuse and Louisville will be the favored sons in basketball from now on, getting the games that matter most so that ESPN can create new rivalries at the expense of old ones.

    For those of you who don’t think the State-UNC football and basketball rivalries could eventually be limited, look no further than baseball, where the league allowed these two nationally-ranked teams to play but once in the course of a 50-game schedule.

    #45469
    compsciwolf
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    Actually 13OT, the league did no such thing in baseball. It’s actually worse than you stated. State and UNC were not scheduled to play so the teams agreed to play one non-conference game to ensure they played each other at least once this year.

    #45471
    13OT
    Participant

    I’m aware that the league didn’t schedule this one. But they did allow it to be played after an outcry from the fans.

    It’s probably the only time that ACC officials have listened to their conference’s fans in years, and probably the last.

    #45476
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    I’m aware that the league didn’t schedule this one. But they did allow it to be played after an outcry from the fans.

    I could be mistaken, but I don’t think the conference had a say in the matter. The game is a nonconference game.

    #45490
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It is a nonconference game.

    There is NO F-CKING WAY we add a team to allow even divisions for basketball. Even in the crapulent ACC, the driver is, and forever will be, football. Because that’s where the money is.

    We won’t add a 16th team unless and until the superconference landscape leverages Notre Dame to join a conference for good (and assuming they go with the ACC, which I don’t believe to be a fait accompli). We extended that timeline by giving them a sucker’s deal, like the one that helped destroy the Big East.

    Logistical headaches through the roof trying to balance schedules and divisions for a 15-team football league. I suppose you could add Navy as a “football only” member, but I believe that to be a pretty stupid idea.

    #45513
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    We won’t add a 16th team unless and until the superconference landscape leverages Notre Dame to join a conference for good (and assuming they go with the ACC, which I don’t believe to be a fait accompli).

    Their NBC football contract essentially removes all financial incentive to join a conference. I haven’t checked recently, but at one time the ND athletic department was giving $1M to the school every year. As the BE and ACC have shown, there will always be suckers around to insure that all of the other sports have conferences to play in.

    A 22-game conference schedule would mean that everyone would lose two home games against some directional university (assuming that the number of games allowed stays constant). Now while that wouldn’t mean much to the average fan or most ACC schools, those schools with good season-ticket sales (like State) would lose upwards of $1M per year (assuming no increase in per-game pricing).

    The only way that the conference schedule will be increased is for the media contracts to cover the lost revenue. But with the decline in ACC basketball, it doesn’t seem likely that ESPN would be willing to pay much for more of the same old shit.

    But ignoring all of that, a 22-game schedule in a 15 team conference would mean 8 home/home games with 3 home only and 3 away only. This type of schedule would greatly reduce the disparity evident in this year’s conference schedule.

    #45514
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I don’t think anyone else would have given ND the suckers’ deal, which is why they are in the ACC and not the B1G.

    The incentive to join a conference is if/when the major conferences form a 16-team playoff, and refuse to give the Irish special rules to allow them to have their cake and eat it too. It will be such a tv money bonanza that they won’t have to include ND.

    #45515
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    The NBC contract as well as the sucker deals with the two weakest conferences shows the perceived value of ND’s nation-wide appeal. I would like to be wrong, but I don’t think we’ll ever see the conferences grow a set big enough to kick ND out.

    #45703
    john of sparta
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    as another posted:
    there is only ONE conference…TV.
    ESPN is just the AD.

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