(12) NC STATE vs (5) SAINT LOUIS Preview

Time: 7:20 pm
Location: Orlando, FL
TV: TNT
Announcers: Brian Anderson, Dan Bonner and Kristine Leahy

The Pack is in the Round of 64 after defeating the Xavier Musketeers 74-59 in the First Four match in Dayton, OH. The Wolfpack put together one of their best all-around performances this season by getting almost a complete team effort in multiple facets on both ends of the court. Sure the Pack has been more efficient on offense this season but increasing their performance on defense just a little, it more than made up for any drop off in offensive efficiency. Anthony Barber was sick and it effected his time on the court and Warren was saddled with two quick fouls at the beginning of the game which slowed him down but everyone stepped up until he was able to find his grove. With the win the Pack has moved on to Orlando, FL to face the Saint Louis Billikens.

Getting to know them

The Billikens have had a tremendous year in the A-10, jumping out to a 25-2 (12-0) record, with the 2 losses being a 63-57 loss to Wisconsin on a neutral court and a 70-65 loss to undefeated Wichita State at home. Then something happened, St. Louis lost at home to lowly Duquesne and stumbled the rest of the way to a 26-6 (13-3) record, including a first round exit in the A-10 tournament to St. Bonaventure. St. Louis starts 5 seniors, who are in their third NCAAT but doesn’t go very deep into their bench very often. They aren’t a very tall team either, outside of a couple of 6-11 guys, they top out at 6-6.

The Billikens strength is in their defense. It’s not shutdown, low scoring type of defense, more of a make you work extra hard for your points, make you less efficient to compensate for their own low offensive efficiency. Little things like limiting the three, good defensive rebounding to prevent second chance points, forcing turnovers, and not sending the opposition to the line much.

Probable Starters
#5 Jordair Jet (6-1 215 SR) Guard – Jett has an amazing Assist Rate of 34.4%, which ranks #23 in the nation but with having the ball so much means he also has a lot of opportunities to turn the ball over, TORate 20.2%. Jett doesn’t shoot the three, only have 34 3fga this season but he does have a lot of two’s, eFG 50%, and draws a lot of fouls, 5.8 per 40, so he’s likely driving a lot to the basket. Oh yeah and he’s the A-10 Player of the Year, so he’s got that going for him.

#11 Mike McCall (6-0 180 SR) Guard – McCall is the shooting guard and he’s been pretty good this year, 109 ORtg, shoots as many 3’s as 2’s, an eFG 51%, and good at FT’s, though he doesn’t get to the line much. Can’t leave him alone on the perimeter.

#30 Jake Barnett (6-5 205 SR) Forward – Barnett is the least effective scoring option of the starters. He only has a 90 ORtg, barely shooting any 2’s, mainly living on the perimeter jacking 3’s and not that great at 30%. He’s okay at defensive rebounding 12.2% but has a tendancy to turn the ball over at 19% TORate.

#21 Dwayne Evans (6-6 230 SR) Forward – Evan has okay numbers, a 103 ORtg, 50% eFG (doesn’t shoot the 3), but is good at rebounding 8% OR and 17% DR, and drawing fouls to get to the line where he shoots 74%.

#51 Rob Loe (6-11 245 SR) Center – Loe is the match up nightmare for the Pack, he’s taken 123 2FGA (.593) and 115 3FGA (.296). Because he shoots so many 3’s his Offensive Rebounding isn’t that good but he makes up for it on defense where he’s grabbing 16% DR and Blocks 4.7% of shots (#238 nationally). This is where I think we need Washington guarding him on the perimeter and switching up when he goes inside. Did I forget to mention Loe is from New Zealand? Battle of the Bigs from Down Under.

Bench
#2 Austin McBroom (5-9 165 SO), #54 John Manning (6-11 240 JR), #1 Grandy Glaze (6-6 235 JR)

Glaze was getting a decent amount of playing time off the bench for most of the season but during their losing streak his time has been almost nonexistent. He’s a good rebounder and only plays around a the basket but turns the ball over quite a lot. McBroom has seen his minutes increase of late though that hasn’t meant he’s playing great, in fact it’s either good or awful. McBroom shoots a lot of 3’s, understandable for his size, and is their best long distance shooter (.355) along with McCall. Expect to see Manning more then he usually plays simply because the Pack has the size, just don’t expect a lot out of him.

Who has the Advantage?

NOTE: This is a look at what both teams have done over the course of the season, not how they have been playing for the past few weeks. Trust me I’d love to restrict it to just the last 10 games but that would require me to do that myself which I simply don’t have the time, and I still wouldn’t know where they’d rank nationally.

This is a matchup of State’s best against St. Louis’ best and the Billikens defense has been better then the Pack’s offense. One thing I noticed in the Xavier game, who was another team that was good at defensive rebounding, was the Musketeers limited State to only 20% Offensive Rebounding which is about 15% below their season average.

Now we have the matchup of facepalms vs facepalms. It’s best to avert your eyes when the ball moves to this end of the court. Hipster Cat needs to drop the pigtails and return to his hip ways.

Predictions

KenPom likes Saint Louis by 2 points.
Sagarin likes Saint Louis by 3.3 points.
Vegas opened up with Saint Louis -2.5.

Its extremely difficult to know what’s going to happen. Will both teams continue how they’ve been playing over the last month? Or will one or both revert to their old ways? It’s difficult to tell. One thing the Billikens have an advantage in is not only a 5 starting seniors but multiple years of NCAAT experience. The Pack has the advantage of already playing a game and getting the first half jitters out of the way. The Billikens have TONS of bulletin board material since everyone is on the Pack bandwagon and predicting an upset.

Just as everyone will wear the same clothes that they had on Tuesday, watch the game from the same spot, drink the same drinks, I’m going to continue my official pick be against the Pack. I refuse to be the bringer of bad mojo to this team. So I say St. Louis by 1.

And who knows, maybe the Pack’s new good luck charm and several posters new crush, Kristine Leahy, will stick with the Pack for as long as they are in the tournament.

HEADLINES

This is a great article by Giglio, way too much to highlight.

Joe Giglio (N&O)
Gottfried stays positive, pushes right buttons for Wolfpack’s NCAA success

Ryan Tice (TheWolfpacker.com)
In-depth look at Saint Louis

TheWolfpacker.com
Q&A: Saint Louis looking forward to facing Pack

Russ Wood (TheWolfpacker.com)
Audio: Mark Gottfried, players breaks down SLU

Fred Goodall (AP)
NC State-Saint Louis Preview

PackPride.com
Previewing Saint Louis

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Trending down, Billikens are undaunted

Bernie Miklasz (stltoday.com)
It’s up to the ‘Sons of Majerus’

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Loe has come a long way with SLU

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
N.C. State takes whirlwind path to play SLU

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #48960
    JeremyH
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    triadwolf totally agree. they didn’t make some plays that they usually do down the stretch due to fatigue, and we’ve seen that before. we go nine deep yet we count on two guys to carry all the offense. It will be much more distributed next year.

    #48961
    JeremyH
    Participant

    is bjd ok?

    #48962
    packalum44
    Participant

    So do you morons finally believe me? A bad movie
    Doesn’t take an expert to
    See. Archie Archie we r screw

    #48964
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I will close tonight by saying that I am 40 years old, so I should have known better than to expect anything but the worst.

    Will try to remember not to excited before I reach for the electrified cheese once again.

    Maybe see you guys later to talk about general sports. Had enough NC State shit for a long damned time.

    #48965
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    No offense to Coach Lutz, but that was way more than fatigue.

    #48966
    JeremyH
    Participant

    packalum you want us to offer Archie after a third consecutive ncaa?

    #48967
    packalum44
    Participant

    We r screwed. We r losers bc y’all r. Accept it. Punks. Take the jock strap. Justify it.

    #48968
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    While I can appreciate us being exhausted, that is no excuse for blowing a 16 point lead. We built that lead by playing some good ball. It wasn’t just a matter of being tired. We did not play or coach smart ball down the stretch. It is a similar theme in the big games.

    #48969
    PackMan
    Participant

    Most of you here are ridiculous… clearly not an ex-athlete in the bunch. Missed free throws are mostly a sign of fatigue, not a lack of mental toughness. These boys have played 5 hard games in 3 cities in 8 days – that will take a toll. I know it hurts, but lashing out at these kids isn’t going to help. They played hard. Bottom line – the human body has limitations and fatigue is real. Doesn’t matter how hard you train, at some point you get tired. If you cant accept that, i suggest you go back and watch Rocky and the Karate Kid – you know – the real athletes who taught you all about mental toughness and winning.

    #48970
    packalum44
    Participant

    I don’t want to offer Archie. I want to suck his coc8 until he begs us. I’m a big fan.

    #48971
    JeremyH
    Participant

    its not so bad when you learned how to bounce back from it quick : )

    #48972
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    I thought Gott did a solid job substituting most of the night. He rotated the bigs in and out, got TJ and Turner some rest, and got contributions from Dez, Anya, Lenard, and Cat. But late, his sub patterns were way off the mark. To point them out is to place unnecessary criticism on players, and I won’t do it, but whatever hunches he was playing late, weren’t the same ones he played for 35 minutes. We were clearly outcoached down the stretch.

    #48973
    packalum44
    Participant

    But maybe I’m just a douche. Doubt it. Never been a fan of this Loser we have. Go look at my post just before this game. Gott is a loser.

    #48974
    packalum44
    Participant

    But maybe I’m just a douche. Doubt it. Never been a fan of this Loser we have. Go look at my post just before this game. Gott is a loser.

    #48975
    packalum44
    Participant

    Herb did a solid job. So did my dog. On the curb.

    #48976
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    ^Nobody questioning that fatigue wasn’t a factor. But some of the misses were by horrendous shooters who should’ve never been in the game once the strategy was clear. And secondly, the mental lapses–losing three point shooters late–are anything but physical. Total loss of composure..youth, fatigue, and coaches as well. You have to make it a point of emphasis that you cannot allow shooters open looks from 3. If they get the 2, so be it. We have the personnel to attack a press. We just didn’t see it in there as often as needed late.

    #48977
    JeremyH
    Participant

    Rob Loe beat us from the west wing. that’s funny, right? we almost won, WBS has a shot at the end, Warren on his and-1, and then Turner. Again we fell to some turnovers from the press. Inescapable for this year’s team. I thought with all that fouling they would be screwed, but I guess they brought in extras to do that fouling? Genius to foul Vandenberg as soon as he got the ball. They ran there strategy starting at 3:30 to perfection and got a bit lucky.

    #48978
    packalum44
    Participant

    I wrote a 9 digit check last week. It wasn’t to Gott. I’ve met him I’m
    young and cocky and successful. He’s not special.

    #48979
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I will close tonight by saying that I am 40 years old, so I should have known better than to expect anything but the worst.

    Will try to remember not to excited before I reach for the electrified cheese once again.

    Maybe see you guys later to talk about general sports. Had enough NC State shit for a long damned time.

    Me too.
    I am done with a lot.

    I have only watch state basketball games this’d year and I do not even want to watch those now.

    #48980
    PackMan
    Participant

    It’s easy to try and pick apart Gott – but damn. All a coach can do is help put his players in a position to win. He did.

    #48981
    Rick
    Keymaster

    packalum you want us to offer Archie after a third consecutive ncaa?

    It’s n not going to happen but I do too. We have seen what gott can do. He does not have the discipline to lead. His off court antics are just a symptom of the problem. And the end of this game is a result.

    Unfortunately Yow hired a buddy and we are going to be stuck in herb hell for the next ten years.

    #48982
    JeremyH
    Participant

    it was supposed to be a rebuilding year, remember?

    #48983
    packalum44
    Participant

    At least we saw am epic choke job. Could you imagine a K team doing this?

    #48984
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    Missing 17 free throws isn’t a coaching mistake, people. You’re using the result to justify your preconceived feelings about the man.

    #48985
    JeremyH
    Participant

    short turn around, tired legs, less game-planning, yes, you’re going to see the flaws and you run into a team that planned perfectly to exploit each and every flaw. that’s it.

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