(12) NC STATE vs (5) SAINT LOUIS Preview

Time: 7:20 pm
Location: Orlando, FL
TV: TNT
Announcers: Brian Anderson, Dan Bonner and Kristine Leahy

The Pack is in the Round of 64 after defeating the Xavier Musketeers 74-59 in the First Four match in Dayton, OH. The Wolfpack put together one of their best all-around performances this season by getting almost a complete team effort in multiple facets on both ends of the court. Sure the Pack has been more efficient on offense this season but increasing their performance on defense just a little, it more than made up for any drop off in offensive efficiency. Anthony Barber was sick and it effected his time on the court and Warren was saddled with two quick fouls at the beginning of the game which slowed him down but everyone stepped up until he was able to find his grove. With the win the Pack has moved on to Orlando, FL to face the Saint Louis Billikens.

Getting to know them

The Billikens have had a tremendous year in the A-10, jumping out to a 25-2 (12-0) record, with the 2 losses being a 63-57 loss to Wisconsin on a neutral court and a 70-65 loss to undefeated Wichita State at home. Then something happened, St. Louis lost at home to lowly Duquesne and stumbled the rest of the way to a 26-6 (13-3) record, including a first round exit in the A-10 tournament to St. Bonaventure. St. Louis starts 5 seniors, who are in their third NCAAT but doesn’t go very deep into their bench very often. They aren’t a very tall team either, outside of a couple of 6-11 guys, they top out at 6-6.

The Billikens strength is in their defense. It’s not shutdown, low scoring type of defense, more of a make you work extra hard for your points, make you less efficient to compensate for their own low offensive efficiency. Little things like limiting the three, good defensive rebounding to prevent second chance points, forcing turnovers, and not sending the opposition to the line much.

Probable Starters
#5 Jordair Jet (6-1 215 SR) Guard – Jett has an amazing Assist Rate of 34.4%, which ranks #23 in the nation but with having the ball so much means he also has a lot of opportunities to turn the ball over, TORate 20.2%. Jett doesn’t shoot the three, only have 34 3fga this season but he does have a lot of two’s, eFG 50%, and draws a lot of fouls, 5.8 per 40, so he’s likely driving a lot to the basket. Oh yeah and he’s the A-10 Player of the Year, so he’s got that going for him.

#11 Mike McCall (6-0 180 SR) Guard – McCall is the shooting guard and he’s been pretty good this year, 109 ORtg, shoots as many 3’s as 2’s, an eFG 51%, and good at FT’s, though he doesn’t get to the line much. Can’t leave him alone on the perimeter.

#30 Jake Barnett (6-5 205 SR) Forward – Barnett is the least effective scoring option of the starters. He only has a 90 ORtg, barely shooting any 2’s, mainly living on the perimeter jacking 3’s and not that great at 30%. He’s okay at defensive rebounding 12.2% but has a tendancy to turn the ball over at 19% TORate.

#21 Dwayne Evans (6-6 230 SR) Forward – Evan has okay numbers, a 103 ORtg, 50% eFG (doesn’t shoot the 3), but is good at rebounding 8% OR and 17% DR, and drawing fouls to get to the line where he shoots 74%.

#51 Rob Loe (6-11 245 SR) Center – Loe is the match up nightmare for the Pack, he’s taken 123 2FGA (.593) and 115 3FGA (.296). Because he shoots so many 3’s his Offensive Rebounding isn’t that good but he makes up for it on defense where he’s grabbing 16% DR and Blocks 4.7% of shots (#238 nationally). This is where I think we need Washington guarding him on the perimeter and switching up when he goes inside. Did I forget to mention Loe is from New Zealand? Battle of the Bigs from Down Under.

Bench
#2 Austin McBroom (5-9 165 SO), #54 John Manning (6-11 240 JR), #1 Grandy Glaze (6-6 235 JR)

Glaze was getting a decent amount of playing time off the bench for most of the season but during their losing streak his time has been almost nonexistent. He’s a good rebounder and only plays around a the basket but turns the ball over quite a lot. McBroom has seen his minutes increase of late though that hasn’t meant he’s playing great, in fact it’s either good or awful. McBroom shoots a lot of 3’s, understandable for his size, and is their best long distance shooter (.355) along with McCall. Expect to see Manning more then he usually plays simply because the Pack has the size, just don’t expect a lot out of him.

Who has the Advantage?

NOTE: This is a look at what both teams have done over the course of the season, not how they have been playing for the past few weeks. Trust me I’d love to restrict it to just the last 10 games but that would require me to do that myself which I simply don’t have the time, and I still wouldn’t know where they’d rank nationally.

This is a matchup of State’s best against St. Louis’ best and the Billikens defense has been better then the Pack’s offense. One thing I noticed in the Xavier game, who was another team that was good at defensive rebounding, was the Musketeers limited State to only 20% Offensive Rebounding which is about 15% below their season average.

Now we have the matchup of facepalms vs facepalms. It’s best to avert your eyes when the ball moves to this end of the court. Hipster Cat needs to drop the pigtails and return to his hip ways.

Predictions

KenPom likes Saint Louis by 2 points.
Sagarin likes Saint Louis by 3.3 points.
Vegas opened up with Saint Louis -2.5.

Its extremely difficult to know what’s going to happen. Will both teams continue how they’ve been playing over the last month? Or will one or both revert to their old ways? It’s difficult to tell. One thing the Billikens have an advantage in is not only a 5 starting seniors but multiple years of NCAAT experience. The Pack has the advantage of already playing a game and getting the first half jitters out of the way. The Billikens have TONS of bulletin board material since everyone is on the Pack bandwagon and predicting an upset.

Just as everyone will wear the same clothes that they had on Tuesday, watch the game from the same spot, drink the same drinks, I’m going to continue my official pick be against the Pack. I refuse to be the bringer of bad mojo to this team. So I say St. Louis by 1.

And who knows, maybe the Pack’s new good luck charm and several posters new crush, Kristine Leahy, will stick with the Pack for as long as they are in the tournament.

HEADLINES

This is a great article by Giglio, way too much to highlight.

Joe Giglio (N&O)
Gottfried stays positive, pushes right buttons for Wolfpack’s NCAA success

Ryan Tice (TheWolfpacker.com)
In-depth look at Saint Louis

TheWolfpacker.com
Q&A: Saint Louis looking forward to facing Pack

Russ Wood (TheWolfpacker.com)
Audio: Mark Gottfried, players breaks down SLU

Fred Goodall (AP)
NC State-Saint Louis Preview

PackPride.com
Previewing Saint Louis

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Trending down, Billikens are undaunted

Bernie Miklasz (stltoday.com)
It’s up to the ‘Sons of Majerus’

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Loe has come a long way with SLU

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
N.C. State takes whirlwind path to play SLU

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #48883
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Deck chairs on the Titanic. To blame JUST Buckets or JUST WBS or JUST Cat or JUST Gott is folly. Complete systemic bedshitting. EVERYONE fucked up except KH and KW, who didn’t play after the 10 minute mark.

    #48884
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    We were up 16 with what, 7 to play? Wow. We just “invented” a new way to lose. And it wasn’t pretty.

    #48885
    96Fan
    Participant

    Did the team ever practice breaking half court traps?
    I am so frustrated right now, I could just scream.

    Just curious, what was our final FT%

    #48886
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    The Round Mound talking truth.

    #48887
    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Anyway, I’ve vented, I hope to hell the guys still on the team next year remember this feeling so they can make sure it never happens again. Oh, and learn how to break a damn press in the offseason.

    Good night, folks.

    #48888
    YogiNC
    Participant

    Kids make mistakes, they had a bad night shooting free throws, BUT ultimately they turned the ball over way too many times due to PRESSURE, and THAT is coachable, BUT someone has to actually coach them on it. Say what you want, this was a coaching loss.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #48889
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    FML is right. Exactly right. This is a microcosm of our life as State fans.

    Watching Okie/ND State. Not like I could sleep if I tried.

    #48890
    ldr of the pk 75
    Participant

    Everyone is saying FT’s, and you’re correct. Poor ball handling, poor play calling, standing around, correct.Also saying open lanes, open shots for the opposition, also correct. All of this could be seen coming all season. In spite of what overall might be called a good year, this team is as poor fundamentally as it gets. That is on the players and the coaches.

    #48891
    redcanine
    Participant

    Will 5 games in 8 days make ya do THAT?

    #48892
    mikeak01
    Participant

    Trying to figure out which made me more sick to my stomach. Today or 2004 against Vanderbildt…

    #48893
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    20-37 from the line.

    St lewis was worse at 12-26. And we still couldnt win! Just awful. A new low.

    #48894
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Yup, 75. It was damned near EVERYTHING.

    Remember, it’s not like SL did much right. They didn’t shoot well, and were even worse from the FT line. We just fucked up at a faster rate.

    #48895
    vtpackfan
    Participant

    That is ALL on the players. That was a full blown mental melt down. TJs focus was somewhere COMPLETELY out of Orlando.

    #48896
    EdMar
    Participant

    Five games in eight days and one of the point guards with the flu… Maybe that had something to do with the last ten minutes of the game.

    #48897
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    This was 100 times worse than Vanderbilt. Easily the worst loss of my lifetime.

    #48898
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Well, f*ck it. I’m just going to erase that from my mind. They’re just kids, and I hope they come back next season with resolve. It hurts right now, but try not to be too hard on them.

    NDSU and Oklahoma in OT.

    #48899
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    What I was afraid of…..they gave out of gas. Physically and mentally. Dumb azzes. They had all sorts of opportunity. Tyler ran away from the ball the last 1:20. Scared and pooped. Cat…..he had better been sick. Turner gave out. Vandy and King Hippo were on empty. I don’t even want to talk about Lee. He should have to lap it back to Raleigh twice. WTH. Warren was on empty. How could the team let Warren get that last foul? He was smart enough to avoid it at the last second before they called the timeout. To be put in that position twice by his dumb ass teammates. Really?

    The zone was good. Yeah- probably should have seen more of it but it did throw off the bunions.

    I’m leaving now.

    #48900
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    At least we don’t have to watch Lville kill us. Play like that against the Cards and we would have lost by 25+.

    #48901
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    The coach had two players he didn’t use. One of which was an eraser in the lane every possession he played. Might have helped during the layup parade.

    #48902
    Gowolves
    Participant

    I am fresking pissed! This a new low. Some of you butt nuts need to step away from the ledge.

    First the coaches didn’t miss all those free throws.
    Second Warren is ready to go. Yeah he didn’t have his best game but damn don’t throw his ass under the bus. He was and still is the man. I know this loss hurts but please use your damn head before posting some stupid s@it!

    #48903
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    I thought STL was the much more physical team, especially late in the game. They didn’t make anything easy for us. Not as good as UVA or Clemson, but still effective.

    Our D was abominable. Wide open everything.

    #48904
    MISTA WOLF
    Participant

    Hopefully this is motivation for TJ come back next year. None of us wants to remember this as his last dawning of red and white. Hopefully, TJ doesn’t either. The pressure caused us to implode. Ironic that we lose by something V invented.

    #48905
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Mentally prepping for the Fighten Sendeks Final Four run now.

    #48906
    redcanine
    Participant

    FFFFFF UUUUUUUUUU cCCCCCCCCC KKKKKKKK !!!!!!!!!!

    #48907
    96Fan
    Participant

    I know this didn’t have anything to do with the outcome of the game,
    but whats the point of reviewing a call and still not able to get the call right?

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