(12) NC STATE vs (5) SAINT LOUIS Preview

Time: 7:20 pm
Location: Orlando, FL
TV: TNT
Announcers: Brian Anderson, Dan Bonner and Kristine Leahy

The Pack is in the Round of 64 after defeating the Xavier Musketeers 74-59 in the First Four match in Dayton, OH. The Wolfpack put together one of their best all-around performances this season by getting almost a complete team effort in multiple facets on both ends of the court. Sure the Pack has been more efficient on offense this season but increasing their performance on defense just a little, it more than made up for any drop off in offensive efficiency. Anthony Barber was sick and it effected his time on the court and Warren was saddled with two quick fouls at the beginning of the game which slowed him down but everyone stepped up until he was able to find his grove. With the win the Pack has moved on to Orlando, FL to face the Saint Louis Billikens.

Getting to know them

The Billikens have had a tremendous year in the A-10, jumping out to a 25-2 (12-0) record, with the 2 losses being a 63-57 loss to Wisconsin on a neutral court and a 70-65 loss to undefeated Wichita State at home. Then something happened, St. Louis lost at home to lowly Duquesne and stumbled the rest of the way to a 26-6 (13-3) record, including a first round exit in the A-10 tournament to St. Bonaventure. St. Louis starts 5 seniors, who are in their third NCAAT but doesn’t go very deep into their bench very often. They aren’t a very tall team either, outside of a couple of 6-11 guys, they top out at 6-6.

The Billikens strength is in their defense. It’s not shutdown, low scoring type of defense, more of a make you work extra hard for your points, make you less efficient to compensate for their own low offensive efficiency. Little things like limiting the three, good defensive rebounding to prevent second chance points, forcing turnovers, and not sending the opposition to the line much.

Probable Starters
#5 Jordair Jet (6-1 215 SR) Guard – Jett has an amazing Assist Rate of 34.4%, which ranks #23 in the nation but with having the ball so much means he also has a lot of opportunities to turn the ball over, TORate 20.2%. Jett doesn’t shoot the three, only have 34 3fga this season but he does have a lot of two’s, eFG 50%, and draws a lot of fouls, 5.8 per 40, so he’s likely driving a lot to the basket. Oh yeah and he’s the A-10 Player of the Year, so he’s got that going for him.

#11 Mike McCall (6-0 180 SR) Guard – McCall is the shooting guard and he’s been pretty good this year, 109 ORtg, shoots as many 3’s as 2’s, an eFG 51%, and good at FT’s, though he doesn’t get to the line much. Can’t leave him alone on the perimeter.

#30 Jake Barnett (6-5 205 SR) Forward – Barnett is the least effective scoring option of the starters. He only has a 90 ORtg, barely shooting any 2’s, mainly living on the perimeter jacking 3’s and not that great at 30%. He’s okay at defensive rebounding 12.2% but has a tendancy to turn the ball over at 19% TORate.

#21 Dwayne Evans (6-6 230 SR) Forward – Evan has okay numbers, a 103 ORtg, 50% eFG (doesn’t shoot the 3), but is good at rebounding 8% OR and 17% DR, and drawing fouls to get to the line where he shoots 74%.

#51 Rob Loe (6-11 245 SR) Center – Loe is the match up nightmare for the Pack, he’s taken 123 2FGA (.593) and 115 3FGA (.296). Because he shoots so many 3’s his Offensive Rebounding isn’t that good but he makes up for it on defense where he’s grabbing 16% DR and Blocks 4.7% of shots (#238 nationally). This is where I think we need Washington guarding him on the perimeter and switching up when he goes inside. Did I forget to mention Loe is from New Zealand? Battle of the Bigs from Down Under.

Bench
#2 Austin McBroom (5-9 165 SO), #54 John Manning (6-11 240 JR), #1 Grandy Glaze (6-6 235 JR)

Glaze was getting a decent amount of playing time off the bench for most of the season but during their losing streak his time has been almost nonexistent. He’s a good rebounder and only plays around a the basket but turns the ball over quite a lot. McBroom has seen his minutes increase of late though that hasn’t meant he’s playing great, in fact it’s either good or awful. McBroom shoots a lot of 3’s, understandable for his size, and is their best long distance shooter (.355) along with McCall. Expect to see Manning more then he usually plays simply because the Pack has the size, just don’t expect a lot out of him.

Who has the Advantage?

NOTE: This is a look at what both teams have done over the course of the season, not how they have been playing for the past few weeks. Trust me I’d love to restrict it to just the last 10 games but that would require me to do that myself which I simply don’t have the time, and I still wouldn’t know where they’d rank nationally.

This is a matchup of State’s best against St. Louis’ best and the Billikens defense has been better then the Pack’s offense. One thing I noticed in the Xavier game, who was another team that was good at defensive rebounding, was the Musketeers limited State to only 20% Offensive Rebounding which is about 15% below their season average.

Now we have the matchup of facepalms vs facepalms. It’s best to avert your eyes when the ball moves to this end of the court. Hipster Cat needs to drop the pigtails and return to his hip ways.

Predictions

KenPom likes Saint Louis by 2 points.
Sagarin likes Saint Louis by 3.3 points.
Vegas opened up with Saint Louis -2.5.

Its extremely difficult to know what’s going to happen. Will both teams continue how they’ve been playing over the last month? Or will one or both revert to their old ways? It’s difficult to tell. One thing the Billikens have an advantage in is not only a 5 starting seniors but multiple years of NCAAT experience. The Pack has the advantage of already playing a game and getting the first half jitters out of the way. The Billikens have TONS of bulletin board material since everyone is on the Pack bandwagon and predicting an upset.

Just as everyone will wear the same clothes that they had on Tuesday, watch the game from the same spot, drink the same drinks, I’m going to continue my official pick be against the Pack. I refuse to be the bringer of bad mojo to this team. So I say St. Louis by 1.

And who knows, maybe the Pack’s new good luck charm and several posters new crush, Kristine Leahy, will stick with the Pack for as long as they are in the tournament.

HEADLINES

This is a great article by Giglio, way too much to highlight.

Joe Giglio (N&O)
Gottfried stays positive, pushes right buttons for Wolfpack’s NCAA success

Ryan Tice (TheWolfpacker.com)
In-depth look at Saint Louis

TheWolfpacker.com
Q&A: Saint Louis looking forward to facing Pack

Russ Wood (TheWolfpacker.com)
Audio: Mark Gottfried, players breaks down SLU

Fred Goodall (AP)
NC State-Saint Louis Preview

PackPride.com
Previewing Saint Louis

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Trending down, Billikens are undaunted

Bernie Miklasz (stltoday.com)
It’s up to the ‘Sons of Majerus’

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Loe has come a long way with SLU

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
N.C. State takes whirlwind path to play SLU

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #48858
    MBS
    Participant

    I don’t put this on the staff. Worst free throw shooting display I’ve ever seen. Warren left so many on the table.Just one would have been enough.

    #48859
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Put this one on the Coach…
    that’s all I going to say about that until…
    much, much later…

    Proud of our kids…
    It was a good season.

    POP!
    POP!
    POP!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #48860
    packfanatic100
    Participant

    NC State sh*ts the bed in the end. We all should have seen this coming.

    #48861
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I’m sorry but there is no excuse for this.

    #48862
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Justice. We deserved to lose. Shameful display.

    #48863
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    What’s the name of the offense when one guy dribbles around and the other 4 just stand still?

    #48864
    YogiNC
    Participant

    DAMN doesn’t even come close. Not even in the same zip code.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #48865
    96Fan
    Participant

    Wow. I am so disappointed in this team. Very embarrassing.

    #48866
    redcanine
    Participant

    Season Over.

    Just like that.

    Stupid.

    #48867
    graywolf
    Participant

    Valvano curse lives on………

    #48868
    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Absolutely frustrating. Would rather have seen us blown out. And I don’t know that I put this on the coaching staff–they weren’t the ones at the line bricking free throw after free throw. I’m glad the effort was there until the very end, but that’s about the only positive I’m taking out of it.

    #48869
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    Dan Bonner: “I don’t know if I’ve ever seen anything like this.”

    Only Nc State

    We were 10x better than that team and couldn’t handle the ball or hit ft’s.

    Unbelievably disappointing. So much anger, but they’re just kids … hope they put it behind them.

    #48870
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Absolutely horrid late game execution. This has killed us in the big losses. Just another one.

    I hope they practice free throws and defense all summer.

    #48871
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    Where the hell was Tyler…..our freaking point guard. Cat and he should NOT have been on the floor together. ARRRRRGH.

    #48872
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It wasn’t JUST the bricked FTs. We also managed to simultaneously give them wide open layups or wide open 3s EVERY possession. We didn’t even force them into one or the other. They just chose. Layup or wide open 3.

    #48873
    ldr of the pk 75
    Participant

    TJ jersey in the rafters? Are you kidding me? I’d think you’d actually have to have led your team to some sort of glory to hang in the rafters with those there. One MVP season on a 5th 6th place team doesn’t rate to me. Actually, I think one should play a career, all years, to be considered for jersey retirement. Just an opinion.

    #48874
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I don’t see how I can even give a rats ass about basketball anymore this year. There is losing and then there’s this.

    #48875
    YogiNC
    Participant

    It is on the staff, they were horrendous in breaking the press. It was like they had never even practiced it. And that very thing is what lost the UNX game. Plain and simple the staff blew it.

    Smarter than the average bear

    #48876
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    There is no reason for Warren to foul late there. Coaching, folks. Four other guys on the floor. We needed his offense. Terrible last possession.

    #48877
    DrWuffette1day
    Participant

    1 free throw in regulation would have won the game.

    #48878
    SaccoV
    Participant

    Agreed about not putting this one on the coaching staff. We played as stupid as we possibly could to give up such a lead. And the FT shooting wasn’t even the worst of it. Tyler turned the ball over 7 times. Simply put, we were nowhere near strong enough mentally to put this game away. Hopefully this will be a huge building block for next year; right now, it’s enough to make this fat man want to shoot someone.

    #48879
    vtpackfan
    Participant

    Ok. New low in NC State lore. Should have been in the NIT. NCAA teams are not big pussies like our guys are.

    #48880
    redcanine
    Participant

    Blown Hard.

    #48881
    TMD11
    Participant

    Embarrassing…embarrassing…embarrassing.
    Most basic shot in basketball.
    We should have won by 10.

    TJ Warren perhaps the most embarrassing.
    Massive Choke, on the biggest stage.

    #48882
    WolfWiz11
    Participant

    In the end, we were who we thought we were

    Poor defensive rebounding
    Poor defense, really
    Poor free throw shooting
    Careless with the ball
    One-man band

    Warren needs to come back. He’s not ready. He isn’t going to get inside on a Serge Ibaka and his three ball is not there. And you don’t set a bunch of records and then lose your last game like this. If he has any pride he’ll be back.

    I put this on both the staff and the players. We need to coach that defense wins games. And the players definitely need to work on their IQs and there free throws (obvi). Leonard Freeman should have had that last rebound and gone back up. Warren left a bunch of points on the table. I’m sick. Time to drown this bottle of ten year Henry McKenna. FML.

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