NC STATE vs WAKE FOREST Preview

Time: 7:00 pm
TV: ESPNU
Announcers: Tom Hart, Len Elmore

Wake has been off for a week since losing at Duke 83-63, their third straight loss. So the last time these two teams met was four weeks ago in Winston-Salem where the Deacons were able to win the Free Throw shooting contest 70-69. If you don’t remember, the trio of Brian Dorsey, Sean Hull, and Jamie Luckie proceeded to call 52 fouls sending Wake to the line for 39 FTA and the Pack for 31. You’ll also recall this was one of three games TJ Warren has fouled out of this weekend. Finally you may also remember the game winning layup by McIntyre where he took 3 HUUUGGGGEEEEE steps and wasn’t called for a travel.

Here’s a recap statistically of the game:

As you can see the Deacon’s shot the ball tremendously well but that should be expected if you’re going to be called for a foul just for looking at someone. I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen a game where a team took more FT attempts than FG attempts. The ACC must have been so proud for identifying all those tendencies. Wake didn’t disappoint in their inability to grab offensive rebounds, which is saying a lot against this Pack squad.

Projected Starters:
Madison Jones, Coron Williams, Travis McKie, A.W. Adala Moto, and Devin Thomas.

Codi Miller-McIntyre is suffering from an ankle injury that sidelined him for the second half of the Georgia Tech game and all of the Duke game. No word yet on if he’ll be playing tonight but the less the Pack sees of him the better. Maybe that bum ankle can prevent him running from the 3pt line for a layup without dribbling???

Since most of the players on Wake have played at least a couple of games against NC State I thought I’d take a look at how they have performed and who we should be on the lookout for the most.

I’d like to see Thomas’ numbers against every other team in the ACC but I’m guessing he’s salivating knowing State is next up. Just look at that Offensive Rating, 177!!! That is beyond belief for a guy who is so heavily used in those games.

Key No. 1 —- Someone tell Thomas the game is Wednesday night.

The Pack had zero answers for The Dash last game and hopefully he’s at best 50% for this game, otherwise it’s going to be another long night watching the Pack’s PG’s getting abused. Adala Moto was last games “insert unknown player’s name here who has a career game against the Pack”. A lot of that was due to making 11-14 FT’s. McKie’s and Cavanaugh’s numbers are weighted down due to their inability to not turn the ball over.

Series Notes
Overall: NC State leads 137-101
@NC State: State 57-23 (10-4 @PNC, 8 straight wins @PNC)

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 14-3 when they score 65 or more points.
Wake Forest is 13-3 when they score 65 or more points.

Now’s the time to weep
I thought I’d take a look at these two teams and see how they are faring in just conference play this season. It’s not pretty if you’re a Pack fan. Welcome to 2014 where NC State = Wake Forest.

As you can see there isn’t any difference between NC State and Wake Forest this season except Wake goes to the Free Throw line more and sends their opponents there more as well. Some real stinkers against UVA, Duke, and UNC have inflated the bad defensive numbers for the Pack in such a small sample size but doesn’t that say a lot as well.

We all want the Pack to be on the right side of the Bubble come Selection Sunday but if they don’t find another gear improve in several of these areas on both sides of the ball, then I don’t see how they will be able to do the minimum and beat Wake, Clemson, VT, Miami, and BC.

Road Warriors???
Wake Forest under Jeff Bzdelik is a staggering 2-28 on the road in the ACC. Who have they beaten during this amazing run of futility? Boston College (9-22, 4-12) in 2011/12 and Virginia Tech (8-15, 1-10) this year, 2013/14. Wake is currently 1-4 in ACC Road games this season and State is 3-2 in ACC Home games.

So what are they doing to accomplish this feat? Let’s take a look at how they are doing in the losses:


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present (Opponents results)

It’s pretty obvious, WF just isn’t competitive on the road and the biggest culprit is the fact they can’t hit water if they feel out of a boat.

Here’s a side by side comparison of the averages between the 28 losses and the 2 wins.

As you can see the Deacons aren’t doing a whole lot different between their wins and losses except getting the ball in the basket more and playing horrible teams who can’t shoot.

So what does all this mean?

Well, for one thing no one should ever lose to Wake on their Home court and talk about NCAA Tournament in the same season. Second, be on the lookout early on to how well both teams are shooting the ball.

Predictor:
KenPom likes NC State by 6, so does Vegas. Personally I think on a neutral court this game is a toss up but with the game being in Raleigh I’m going with KP and Vegas.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #40396
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    How freaking stupid is it for ESPN to “evaluate” teams for the NCAAT by their BPI when the NCAAT doesn’t even use it in the official evaluation.

    ESPN pays Lunardi to make projections, but they don’t seem to want to talk about him. Then on Selection Sunday they let the 3 Stooges (Digger, Knight, and Vitale) talk instead of someone (on the payroll) that has studied the selection process.

    Oh well, if they actually did a good job, then I wouldn’t have as much to write about.

    ——
    Sorry Jiga. I tried to quote your outrage and then comment on it and somehow I ended up editing your original post.
    VaWolf82

    #40397
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … whistle every thirty seconds….

    nobody can stand that for the next ten minutes…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40398
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Hippo Domination.

    No, mongoose, you will NOT drink from my river.

    #40399
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Cat starting to look confident (sort of) from deep.

    #40400
    PackFamily
    Participant

    ESPN: how about you stick to broadcasting and leave the analysis to the experts mmmkay?

    That goes for football recruiting too.

    #40401
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Whoa…that one was fugly from Cat.

    #40402
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Ah, now THERE is the Cat we all know and love.

    #40403
    WolfWiz11
    Participant

    Ok Cat, no more three pointers, go home, you’re drunk.

    #40404
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … don’t ANYBODY look at the scoreboard and say ANTHING numerical !!!!

    (for at least the next three minutes )

    #NCSTATESH%T

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40405
    Fastback68
    Participant

    20 point lead. That’s some good -hit.

    #40406
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Both teams were I the bonus with eleven minutes left and both teams are in the double bounds with right and a half minutes.

    You many whistles

    #40407
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Tweet. Tweet. Tweet.

    Tweet.

    Tweet. Tweet.

    #40408
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Wake trying to implement the moving screen, but couldn’t.

    #40409
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I can’t wait to hear about how butthurt Vitale is when the cancel the Blues tomorrow night. LMAO

    #40410
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Rick, I have to agree with Ply.
    You’re starting to sound like RoboHeel.

    #40411
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Ok… rick… that’s the third and most important four of the second and we won that one hands down…
    PACK 4 – Deacs 1 with two rounds to go…
    Game should be over… unless…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40412
    PackFamily
    Participant

    Rick: your autocorrect is heroic. I love reading posts from what must be your phone.

    #40413
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    BJ.. I can wait until the cows come home for DUMBASSDICKY to say anything worth hearing…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40414
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    KW with authoritah!!

    #40415
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Actually tweet tablet.
    Tweet

    #40416
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Cat telegraphed the hell outta that pass.

    #40417
    PackFamily
    Participant

    I think Rick has invented a new game for the iPhone: figure out what someone is trying to type when autocorrect is turned off

    #40418
    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    ND up five over Clemson with under 5 to play

    #40419
    Rick
    Keymaster

    The team tweet had looked tweet great so tweet far tweet

    #40420
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ANTHONY heads back to the bench… so Coach can keep chewing on him…

    it’s gonna take two seasons to make him all ACC…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
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