NC STATE vs WAKE FOREST Preview

Time: 7:00 pm
TV: ESPNU
Announcers: Tom Hart, Len Elmore

Wake has been off for a week since losing at Duke 83-63, their third straight loss. So the last time these two teams met was four weeks ago in Winston-Salem where the Deacons were able to win the Free Throw shooting contest 70-69. If you don’t remember, the trio of Brian Dorsey, Sean Hull, and Jamie Luckie proceeded to call 52 fouls sending Wake to the line for 39 FTA and the Pack for 31. You’ll also recall this was one of three games TJ Warren has fouled out of this weekend. Finally you may also remember the game winning layup by McIntyre where he took 3 HUUUGGGGEEEEE steps and wasn’t called for a travel.

Here’s a recap statistically of the game:

As you can see the Deacon’s shot the ball tremendously well but that should be expected if you’re going to be called for a foul just for looking at someone. I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen a game where a team took more FT attempts than FG attempts. The ACC must have been so proud for identifying all those tendencies. Wake didn’t disappoint in their inability to grab offensive rebounds, which is saying a lot against this Pack squad.

Projected Starters:
Madison Jones, Coron Williams, Travis McKie, A.W. Adala Moto, and Devin Thomas.

Codi Miller-McIntyre is suffering from an ankle injury that sidelined him for the second half of the Georgia Tech game and all of the Duke game. No word yet on if he’ll be playing tonight but the less the Pack sees of him the better. Maybe that bum ankle can prevent him running from the 3pt line for a layup without dribbling???

Since most of the players on Wake have played at least a couple of games against NC State I thought I’d take a look at how they have performed and who we should be on the lookout for the most.

I’d like to see Thomas’ numbers against every other team in the ACC but I’m guessing he’s salivating knowing State is next up. Just look at that Offensive Rating, 177!!! That is beyond belief for a guy who is so heavily used in those games.

Key No. 1 —- Someone tell Thomas the game is Wednesday night.

The Pack had zero answers for The Dash last game and hopefully he’s at best 50% for this game, otherwise it’s going to be another long night watching the Pack’s PG’s getting abused. Adala Moto was last games “insert unknown player’s name here who has a career game against the Pack”. A lot of that was due to making 11-14 FT’s. McKie’s and Cavanaugh’s numbers are weighted down due to their inability to not turn the ball over.

Series Notes
Overall: NC State leads 137-101
@NC State: State 57-23 (10-4 @PNC, 8 straight wins @PNC)

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 14-3 when they score 65 or more points.
Wake Forest is 13-3 when they score 65 or more points.

Now’s the time to weep
I thought I’d take a look at these two teams and see how they are faring in just conference play this season. It’s not pretty if you’re a Pack fan. Welcome to 2014 where NC State = Wake Forest.

As you can see there isn’t any difference between NC State and Wake Forest this season except Wake goes to the Free Throw line more and sends their opponents there more as well. Some real stinkers against UVA, Duke, and UNC have inflated the bad defensive numbers for the Pack in such a small sample size but doesn’t that say a lot as well.

We all want the Pack to be on the right side of the Bubble come Selection Sunday but if they don’t find another gear improve in several of these areas on both sides of the ball, then I don’t see how they will be able to do the minimum and beat Wake, Clemson, VT, Miami, and BC.

Road Warriors???
Wake Forest under Jeff Bzdelik is a staggering 2-28 on the road in the ACC. Who have they beaten during this amazing run of futility? Boston College (9-22, 4-12) in 2011/12 and Virginia Tech (8-15, 1-10) this year, 2013/14. Wake is currently 1-4 in ACC Road games this season and State is 3-2 in ACC Home games.

So what are they doing to accomplish this feat? Let’s take a look at how they are doing in the losses:


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present (Opponents results)

It’s pretty obvious, WF just isn’t competitive on the road and the biggest culprit is the fact they can’t hit water if they feel out of a boat.

Here’s a side by side comparison of the averages between the 28 losses and the 2 wins.

As you can see the Deacons aren’t doing a whole lot different between their wins and losses except getting the ball in the basket more and playing horrible teams who can’t shoot.

So what does all this mean?

Well, for one thing no one should ever lose to Wake on their Home court and talk about NCAA Tournament in the same season. Second, be on the lookout early on to how well both teams are shooting the ball.

Predictor:
KenPom likes NC State by 6, so does Vegas. Personally I think on a neutral court this game is a toss up but with the game being in Raleigh I’m going with KP and Vegas.

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #40371
    bill.onthebeach
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    OK.. guys…

    Here’s your halftime “call of the season”…

    GOTT & Company are telling our kids… ”
    just keep doing everything you’re doing and you’ll win this game”

    Coach BZZZZZZZZZZ knows this too and tells his kids… “just do what I have been telling you to do and do it better”
    CUZ will cool off… or disappear….

    BUT, name your favorite Hall of Fame Coach and THIS is what he tells our kids if he’s coaching for us…

    1. On offense… spread the floor…
    2. Pass the ball to our BIGS IN THE PAINT … the first five times down the floor.. (for the first four of the second..)
    3. We GOTT room to miss a few… if you miss the close… just make sure you get contact and maybe get a whistle…

    4. Deacs are shooting 61% for the first half… they are gonna cool off…
    5. On D, just keep turning them over… dontworraboutit if they make a few easy ones..
    6. Do not look at scoreboard….

    Coach-ing v. Coach-ability…

    That’s what we been talking about all season!

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40372
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … and we open the half with two three pointers (made one, missed one ) and a layup by CUZ….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40373
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Nice shot Devon.

    *snicker*

    #40374
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Anya says get that weak shit outta here Devon.

    Nice.

    #40375
    Fastback68
    Participant

    Shaft with the block.

    #40376
    Texpack
    Participant

    Kh with the Deke impression

    #40377
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Shoulda been a 5 second call?

    #40378
    Texpack
    Participant

    That was a blatant hooking foul on Wake. Turner gets screwed for playing solid D.

    #40379
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Len seems to be in his happy place. I haven’t heard him this upbeat in… forever?

    #40380
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … rick… I’m calling the first four of the second.. a draw…

    our BIGS are more active… but we need to watch the fouls….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40381
    StateMan
    Participant

    Can Anya be Jumbo Mutumbo or JM?

    #40382
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^Elmore must have gotten lucky last night….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40383
    Texpack
    Participant

    Dez has disappeared

    #40384
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … time to start coaching a little.

    next foul by Deacs puts us in the one and one…
    and we need to take about five minutes off the clock…

    up 12-14 or more with eight to go sounds good tonight…

    26 whistles in 27 minutes so far tonight…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40385
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Nice FTs BSW.

    #40386
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Holy crap…he hit all 3.

    #40387
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Thanks Bill
    Tired four minutes and we areUp twelve I will take it

    #40388
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Holy crap…he hit all 3.

    Tell me about it

    #40389
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ok… rick… there’s your second four… another draw.. more or less…

    How about them PIGTAILS ???
    What do you girls think about those ???

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40390
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Since buckets had not fouled out I well assume no lucky

    #40391
    Texpack
    Participant

    The Lewis & Turner combo has risen above the Barber & Lee combo.

    #40392
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Rick, you need to edumacate your auto-correct.

    #40393
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    There they go with that BPI again.

    #40394
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Ply
    No doubt

    #40395
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … too many whistles are mucking up the game flow the last four minutes…
    that’s GOTT to favor the Deacs…

    But they don’t seem to have the answers tonight.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
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