NC STATE vs WAKE FOREST Preview

Time: 7:00 pm
TV: ESPNU
Announcers: Tom Hart, Len Elmore

Wake has been off for a week since losing at Duke 83-63, their third straight loss. So the last time these two teams met was four weeks ago in Winston-Salem where the Deacons were able to win the Free Throw shooting contest 70-69. If you don’t remember, the trio of Brian Dorsey, Sean Hull, and Jamie Luckie proceeded to call 52 fouls sending Wake to the line for 39 FTA and the Pack for 31. You’ll also recall this was one of three games TJ Warren has fouled out of this weekend. Finally you may also remember the game winning layup by McIntyre where he took 3 HUUUGGGGEEEEE steps and wasn’t called for a travel.

Here’s a recap statistically of the game:

As you can see the Deacon’s shot the ball tremendously well but that should be expected if you’re going to be called for a foul just for looking at someone. I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen a game where a team took more FT attempts than FG attempts. The ACC must have been so proud for identifying all those tendencies. Wake didn’t disappoint in their inability to grab offensive rebounds, which is saying a lot against this Pack squad.

Projected Starters:
Madison Jones, Coron Williams, Travis McKie, A.W. Adala Moto, and Devin Thomas.

Codi Miller-McIntyre is suffering from an ankle injury that sidelined him for the second half of the Georgia Tech game and all of the Duke game. No word yet on if he’ll be playing tonight but the less the Pack sees of him the better. Maybe that bum ankle can prevent him running from the 3pt line for a layup without dribbling???

Since most of the players on Wake have played at least a couple of games against NC State I thought I’d take a look at how they have performed and who we should be on the lookout for the most.

I’d like to see Thomas’ numbers against every other team in the ACC but I’m guessing he’s salivating knowing State is next up. Just look at that Offensive Rating, 177!!! That is beyond belief for a guy who is so heavily used in those games.

Key No. 1 —- Someone tell Thomas the game is Wednesday night.

The Pack had zero answers for The Dash last game and hopefully he’s at best 50% for this game, otherwise it’s going to be another long night watching the Pack’s PG’s getting abused. Adala Moto was last games “insert unknown player’s name here who has a career game against the Pack”. A lot of that was due to making 11-14 FT’s. McKie’s and Cavanaugh’s numbers are weighted down due to their inability to not turn the ball over.

Series Notes
Overall: NC State leads 137-101
@NC State: State 57-23 (10-4 @PNC, 8 straight wins @PNC)

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 14-3 when they score 65 or more points.
Wake Forest is 13-3 when they score 65 or more points.

Now’s the time to weep
I thought I’d take a look at these two teams and see how they are faring in just conference play this season. It’s not pretty if you’re a Pack fan. Welcome to 2014 where NC State = Wake Forest.

As you can see there isn’t any difference between NC State and Wake Forest this season except Wake goes to the Free Throw line more and sends their opponents there more as well. Some real stinkers against UVA, Duke, and UNC have inflated the bad defensive numbers for the Pack in such a small sample size but doesn’t that say a lot as well.

We all want the Pack to be on the right side of the Bubble come Selection Sunday but if they don’t find another gear improve in several of these areas on both sides of the ball, then I don’t see how they will be able to do the minimum and beat Wake, Clemson, VT, Miami, and BC.

Road Warriors???
Wake Forest under Jeff Bzdelik is a staggering 2-28 on the road in the ACC. Who have they beaten during this amazing run of futility? Boston College (9-22, 4-12) in 2011/12 and Virginia Tech (8-15, 1-10) this year, 2013/14. Wake is currently 1-4 in ACC Road games this season and State is 3-2 in ACC Home games.

So what are they doing to accomplish this feat? Let’s take a look at how they are doing in the losses:


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present


Wake Forest stats for ACC road losses from 2011-Present (Opponents results)

It’s pretty obvious, WF just isn’t competitive on the road and the biggest culprit is the fact they can’t hit water if they feel out of a boat.

Here’s a side by side comparison of the averages between the 28 losses and the 2 wins.

As you can see the Deacons aren’t doing a whole lot different between their wins and losses except getting the ball in the basket more and playing horrible teams who can’t shoot.

So what does all this mean?

Well, for one thing no one should ever lose to Wake on their Home court and talk about NCAA Tournament in the same season. Second, be on the lookout early on to how well both teams are shooting the ball.

Predictor:
KenPom likes NC State by 6, so does Vegas. Personally I think on a neutral court this game is a toss up but with the game being in Raleigh I’m going with KP and Vegas.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #40318
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Wuf, I think maybe you meant something existential-like. Not that the scoreboard would show it, but deep down we did something to see their souls and they became beaten men. Dunno, I would have to ask Cormac McCarthy to phrase it better.

    #40319
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    LMAO

    #40320
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    .. yep…. for all the CUZwatchers… CUZ has come out strong…

    but historically…. his great first halves are followed by 8-10 of invisbility in the second

    remember first half points only count half of what second half points count.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40321
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Identical twins Buckets and Duckets both showed up tonight.

    #40322
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Cat really struggling.

    #40323
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    VANDWAGON gets a hook shot and a block on back to back possessions…
    .. this might be like a 767 taking off … takes a long runway….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40324
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    That helps.

    #40325
    PackFamily
    Participant

    Ok, Lewis is rested. Time to put him back in

    #40326
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Did we replace the rims with hula hoops? Vandy scores, Cat and Buckets each swish threes.

    #40327
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ANTHONY falls into CoachBZZZZZZZZ after busting his zone with a three…
    wonder if he said anything…??

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40328
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Cavanaugh needs some Proactiv very badly.

    #40329
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    When Cat makes a three, you must take him out immediately.

    #40330
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Cavanaugh needs some Proactiv very badly.

    So ugly you wonder how he didn’t end up at BC or ND.

    #40331
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Cavanaugh needs some Proactiv very badly.

    So ugly you wonder how he didn’t end up at BC or ND.

    Ouch

    #40332
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    BS. Refs don’t call 2 shoves from Wake on rebounds and then they call Washington for one. They are all fouls, call em.

    #40333
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    But he’s wily.

    #40334
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Wuf – halfway bthrough S3 of Justified. A shame he had to shoot the nurse of death like that.

    I fall deeper in love with Ava Crowder every episode.

    #40335
    Texpack
    Participant

    Washington just got called for the exact foul Wake got away with on their end. This game is going Wake’s way. They will be in the bonus the rest of the half and we’ve already made all of our threes for the next four games.

    #40336
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … Ok … rick.. that’s your third four… another tie…

    three balls are the real deal tonight both ways…

    for the other ref-watchers…

    three nonamezebras tonight..
    fouls … Pack 6 Deacs 2
    one whistle every 2 minutes….

    Vandy and KW with two…

    Tyler back in at Point to finish the half….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #40337
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Yeah, that nurse was cute. But she’s not the one I was talking about earlier. Watch for the bartender.

    #40338
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    Wake never plays this good on the road except when they’ve won. Not a good sign.

    #40339
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Something to look forward to when Snowmageddon II – Electric Boogaloo rolls through town.

    #40340
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Something to look forward to when Snowmageddon II – Electric Boogaloo rolls through town.

    Yeah, I heard from the folks that y’all were battening down for one.

    #40341
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    One does not box out King Hippo. If only his arms were an inch or two longer, eh?

    #40342
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Just a warm up for ‘Cuse this weekend.

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