NC STATE at SYRACUSE Preview

Time: 3:00 pm
TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Steve Martin, Mike Gminski

NC State kicks off a three game road trip, starting with flying to New York to play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome. The Pack have had some big successes in the Carrier Dome. Who can forget 1998 and Torry Holt?

Last Time Out:
Syracuse traveled to Pitt and escaped with their #1 ranking and undefeated record still intact when Tyler Ennis drains a long three as time expires to win 58-56.

ZONE, ZONE, and more ZONE. The Pack’s worst nightmare matchup (outside of trying to beat UNC at its own game without the horses to match them) has finally arrived, athletic, talented, big men who are quick and play tough zone defense and control the tempo at their slowed down pace. Gee, what DON’T they do well? Defensive Rebounding, that’s it folks. Basketball is all about matchups and momentum, M&M. (oh boy do I love the peanut variety) The Pack simply matches up poorly against the Orange so if they Pack play their typical game it will be another typical blowout against a top ranked team.

Probable Starters:
#5 CJ Fair (6-8 215 SR) Forward – Fair is not having the type of season worthy of all the POY talk that he gets but that doesn’t mean he’s not All ACC material. He only has an ORtg of 102 and an average rebounding rate and his shooting (eFG) is only 47.2%.
#11 Tyler Ennis (6-2 180 FR) Guard – Ennis is one seriously talented freshman point guard. He sports an assist rate of 32.3% coupled with a turnover rate of only 13.3. This kid is solid at running the Orange and he can play defense and score too. Ennis is just as dangerous as Fair.
#10 Trevor Cooney (6-4 195 SO) Guard – Three Point Specialist, 72% of his shots come from outside the arc and he’s good at making them (.433). Give up the 2 in favor of not letting him shoot 3’s.
#25 Rakeem Christmas (6-9 250 JR) Forward – Christmas is a shot blocking, rebounding machine that may only take 4 or 5 shots a game he’ll make most of them (.684).
#3 Jerami Grant (6-8 210 SO) Forward – Grant became the starter after DaJuan Coleman was lost for the season back in early January due to a knee injury. Grant may not have started the season as the starter but he’s proven to be a quality player. Must be nice to have a guy come off the bench and give you an ORtg of 118, rebound, block, and score.

Bench:
#12 Baye Keita (6-10 220 SR), #0 Michael Gbinije (6-7 200 SO), #21 Tyler Roberson (6-8 212 FR)

All are good rebounders and Keita is a shot blocker. We’re likely to see more of Keita and Gbinije than Roberson.

Keys to the Pack winning:

Three things the Pack must do differently to have a chance at winning:

1. Defensive Rebounding. Limit their second chances due to fewer possessions.
2. Get to the FT Line and make a high percentage of them.
3. Make a high percentage of 3’s to give Warren room to move inside.

Bonus Key: Guards handle the pressure and not turn the ball over.

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 15-3 when they score 65 or more points this season.
Syracuse has only allowed 6 teams to score 65 or more points this season.

Another Magic Number: 25
NC State is 8-0 when TJ Warren scores 25 or more points this season.

One More Magic Number: 50
NC State is 9-0 when they shoot 50% or better.

Series Notes:

NC State is 1-4 against Syracuse

12/4/90 #4 Syracuse 86, NC State 79 (at Syracuse)
2/3/01 #12 Syracuse 54, NC State 53 (at PNC)
12/8/01 NC State 82, #9 Syracuse 68 (at Syracuse)
2/13/11 #8 Syracuse 65, NC State 59 (at Syracuse)
12/17/12 #1 Syracuse 88, NC State 72 (at PNC)

Fun Facts

– NC State has an 8-0 record when shooting the same number or more free throws than its opponents.
– State is 7-1 when making the same or more foul shots.
– State is 15-1 when it shoots better/same as opponent.

ADVANTAGES

I’m still waiting on this “improvement” to show up so I don’t have to keep seeing all these facepalms. Pack Offense vs. Orange Defense, will the Pack turn Syracuse’s Zone into Sunny D or will the Tropicana Concentrate shutdown anything the Pack has?

DE-FEN-SIVE RE-BOUND-ING. I’ll keep saying this until I’m blue in the face or until someone on the coaching staff realizes it’s killing us. The one stat I’ll be looking at to measure our chances. If the Pack’s offense can overcome the zone then defensive rebounding will likely be the deciding factor in the game.

PREDICTOR

Vegas likes Syracuse by 14. KenPom likes the Orange by 15 and gives State a 7% chance at winning.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #41075
    PackFamily
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    “We played well enough, not good. A good team beats Cuse by 15 tonight. Our offensive ability is suspect at best as demonstrated in the last 6 min. We have a lead and the ball with about 30 secs left and manage to give it away twice. Complain all you want about the refs, but till we learn to shoot and make smart plays, we’ll come up short when it counts. Without Warren and Washington we’re nothing, and they can’t do it all.”

    They’re the #1 team in the nation and were 24-0. Does the level of competition play into your analysis, or is it all just NC State v. a vacuum? Our guys played all out and well against a strong defensive team.

    #41076
    Hawkeye Whitney
    Participant

    Draw the big offensive foul for one of the biggest plays of the game……..and then throw the ball away at the end. That’s living with a freshman point guard. But a great game. Proud of all the guys.

    #41077
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Because they know the NCAAs are a very real possibility, Bill. This one hurt and everyone knows it.

    #41078
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Because they know the NCAAs are a very real possibility, Bill. This one hurt and everyone knows it.

    This was the death blow to the ncaa and it is all on the acc

    #41079
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    Just heard an unrelated news story, and the end line was “You can’t control the events, only how you react to them.” It certainly fits in this case.

    Re: Des – State kept playing after his miscue and Anthony drew the key foul against Ennis. There was still a game to be won. They could have packed it in.

    We know that. I just hope he does.

    #41080
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    And k’s butt buddy got out coached tonight

    Pregame… No Contest. GOTT & Company smoked the dinosaur.

    During game… dead even by my count… with the dinosaur getting the last punch.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41081
    Rick
    Keymaster

    And k’s butt buddy got out coached tonight

    Pregame… No Contest. GOTT & Company smoked the dinosaur.

    During game… dead even by my count… with the dinosaur getting the last punch.

    I have no idea what that means

    #41082
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Shout out to Turner who kept his head in the game and had a key 9 points, including the 3 FTs (after an admittedly bad foul by Ennis on a loooong shot).

    #41083
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    I had to watch on ESPN3, and it’s not up for replay yet. Has anyone had a chance to rewind and watch the inbound/turnover sequence again? Was it as panicky as I remember?

    #41085
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Did ya’ll really think after all those years in the Big East… that ‘Cuse was a bunch of defensive p%ssies ??
    They were gonna bring everything they had at the end…. Duh…

    Yep… if you’re gonna be the best… you play the best… and watch and learn.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41086
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    I’m not so sure Boeheim did anything to win that one. He recruits good players and teaches them to play a good zone, no doubt. Somehow someway they keep winning these close ones.

    #41087
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I’m not so sure Boeheim did anything to win that one. He recruits good players and teaches them to play a good zone, no doubt. Somehow someway they keep winning these close ones.

    (Cough) refs (cough)

    #41088
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Tonight, yea the refs played a huge role. But Ennis hitting that running three last week at Pitt…They just seem to have that quiet confidence that they will win.

    #41089
    mroli
    Participant

    While I fully understand the consternation surrounding the calls (or lack thereof), we blew it at the end. 2 turnovers, and no one to blame but ourselves. Got to hand it to the team today for the first 39 minutes. Great effort for 39, and total confusion for 1.

    damn.

    #41090
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    I’m not so sure Boeheim did anything to win that one. He recruits good players and teaches them to play a good zone, no doubt. Somehow someway they keep winning these close ones.

    Agree. We had no timeouts and they had a tight, aggressive zone that was not being whistled.

    #41091
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Here’s your Stat of the night….

    “Cuse’s biggest lead against our kids was by three points at the 17:21 point of the first half…. when they lead 5-2.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41092
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    To quote the late, great Rodney Purvis, the tears won’t stop falling man, smh.

    #41093
    vtpackfan
    Participant

    It is mind numbing to think of how two plays were called by the refs in closing second one point games.

    Wake Forest 4 step waltz

    TJ getting hammered in the motion of delivering a shot

    We are those two calls/no calls from being a team that everyone can get behind instead of having more dip sticks showing up and running off the “SOS, these guys suck and so does the coach”.

    #41094
    Rick
    Keymaster

    While I fully understand the consternation surrounding the calls (or lack thereof), we blew it at the end. 2 turnovers, and no one to blame but ourselves. Got to hand it the team today for the first 39 minutes. Great effort for 39, and total confusion for 1.

    damn.

    This is an idiotic statement. We have far more than just ourselves to blame.

    #41095
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    If they just could have had 6 timeouts instead of 5…

    #41097
    PackFamily
    Participant

    How do i unsubscribe from this? I’ve gotten a hundred emails of these posts? I’ve unchecked the box but it keeps coming back checked

    #41098
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Re the Cuse zone, it’s not so mich that it is tight, it is that it is so active and they move as one. Boeheim recruits these really long and athletic players, and they can move. Their arms and hands are very active. They block lanes, bump cutters, and get out on shooters quickly. They also clean the glass, which ain’t so easy to do in a zone. It is very difficult to play against. But I thought we did well, just not in the closing moments.

    #41099
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    I’m not so sure Boeheim did anything to win that one.

    Boeheim’s only big move was the trap in the last 40 seconds of the game… otherwise, as noted above, he was behind the eight ball by one move the entire game.

    The breakaway was the coaching move of the night… That play only comes from the bench.

    The only thing both Dez and ANTHONY “did wrong” at the end was to try to do something…. they should have just held the ball and taken the foul or the jumpball…. we had the arrow… )…. but that is against all bball instincts and impossible to coach.

    So we shouldn’t blame them at all…. IMO.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41100
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    How do i unsubscribe from this? I’ve gotten a hundred emails of these posts? I’ve unchecked the box but it keeps coming back checked

    Welcome to the Hotel California.

    #41101
    mroli
    Participant

    LOL, yes. I admit that I do not subscribe to the “ACC pays to have NC State lose” mentality. Just going by the replay. Dribbling off the leg? Please. Not holding the ball on the trap? They just looked like a young team that was very nervous at the end. They had a (damn good) chance to take it, and they let it slip away.

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