NC STATE at SYRACUSE Preview

Time: 3:00 pm
TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Steve Martin, Mike Gminski

NC State kicks off a three game road trip, starting with flying to New York to play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome. The Pack have had some big successes in the Carrier Dome. Who can forget 1998 and Torry Holt?

Last Time Out:
Syracuse traveled to Pitt and escaped with their #1 ranking and undefeated record still intact when Tyler Ennis drains a long three as time expires to win 58-56.

ZONE, ZONE, and more ZONE. The Pack’s worst nightmare matchup (outside of trying to beat UNC at its own game without the horses to match them) has finally arrived, athletic, talented, big men who are quick and play tough zone defense and control the tempo at their slowed down pace. Gee, what DON’T they do well? Defensive Rebounding, that’s it folks. Basketball is all about matchups and momentum, M&M. (oh boy do I love the peanut variety) The Pack simply matches up poorly against the Orange so if they Pack play their typical game it will be another typical blowout against a top ranked team.

Probable Starters:
#5 CJ Fair (6-8 215 SR) Forward – Fair is not having the type of season worthy of all the POY talk that he gets but that doesn’t mean he’s not All ACC material. He only has an ORtg of 102 and an average rebounding rate and his shooting (eFG) is only 47.2%.
#11 Tyler Ennis (6-2 180 FR) Guard – Ennis is one seriously talented freshman point guard. He sports an assist rate of 32.3% coupled with a turnover rate of only 13.3. This kid is solid at running the Orange and he can play defense and score too. Ennis is just as dangerous as Fair.
#10 Trevor Cooney (6-4 195 SO) Guard – Three Point Specialist, 72% of his shots come from outside the arc and he’s good at making them (.433). Give up the 2 in favor of not letting him shoot 3’s.
#25 Rakeem Christmas (6-9 250 JR) Forward – Christmas is a shot blocking, rebounding machine that may only take 4 or 5 shots a game he’ll make most of them (.684).
#3 Jerami Grant (6-8 210 SO) Forward – Grant became the starter after DaJuan Coleman was lost for the season back in early January due to a knee injury. Grant may not have started the season as the starter but he’s proven to be a quality player. Must be nice to have a guy come off the bench and give you an ORtg of 118, rebound, block, and score.

Bench:
#12 Baye Keita (6-10 220 SR), #0 Michael Gbinije (6-7 200 SO), #21 Tyler Roberson (6-8 212 FR)

All are good rebounders and Keita is a shot blocker. We’re likely to see more of Keita and Gbinije than Roberson.

Keys to the Pack winning:

Three things the Pack must do differently to have a chance at winning:

1. Defensive Rebounding. Limit their second chances due to fewer possessions.
2. Get to the FT Line and make a high percentage of them.
3. Make a high percentage of 3’s to give Warren room to move inside.

Bonus Key: Guards handle the pressure and not turn the ball over.

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 15-3 when they score 65 or more points this season.
Syracuse has only allowed 6 teams to score 65 or more points this season.

Another Magic Number: 25
NC State is 8-0 when TJ Warren scores 25 or more points this season.

One More Magic Number: 50
NC State is 9-0 when they shoot 50% or better.

Series Notes:

NC State is 1-4 against Syracuse

12/4/90 #4 Syracuse 86, NC State 79 (at Syracuse)
2/3/01 #12 Syracuse 54, NC State 53 (at PNC)
12/8/01 NC State 82, #9 Syracuse 68 (at Syracuse)
2/13/11 #8 Syracuse 65, NC State 59 (at Syracuse)
12/17/12 #1 Syracuse 88, NC State 72 (at PNC)

Fun Facts

– NC State has an 8-0 record when shooting the same number or more free throws than its opponents.
– State is 7-1 when making the same or more foul shots.
– State is 15-1 when it shoots better/same as opponent.

ADVANTAGES

I’m still waiting on this “improvement” to show up so I don’t have to keep seeing all these facepalms. Pack Offense vs. Orange Defense, will the Pack turn Syracuse’s Zone into Sunny D or will the Tropicana Concentrate shutdown anything the Pack has?

DE-FEN-SIVE RE-BOUND-ING. I’ll keep saying this until I’m blue in the face or until someone on the coaching staff realizes it’s killing us. The one stat I’ll be looking at to measure our chances. If the Pack’s offense can overcome the zone then defensive rebounding will likely be the deciding factor in the game.

PREDICTOR

Vegas likes Syracuse by 14. KenPom likes the Orange by 15 and gives State a 7% chance at winning.

About 1.21 Jigawatts

Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #41049
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    “Did Hell almost just freeze over?”

    There were pigs preparing for takeoff on the runway.

    #41050
    WeAreCured
    Participant

    I hope tonight proved to them that they belong, and they go out and win every game left.

    However, tonight will probably just break their hearts. Especially, poor poor Dez.

    #41051
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Please let SU be the first ever #1 seed to lose to a #16 seed.

    That would be just

    #41053
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Kudos to MG for having the stones to throw the homerun ball to Buckets. Kudos to Buckets for IMMEDIATELY going up for the basket, knowing he would be fouled.

    That combination of guts, strategy, and execution won the fucking game, and I don’t give a shit what the Cabal says the final score should be.

    #41054
    Jediwolf
    Participant

    What a crap call!!

    Great job by Gott and the team. It’s hard to beat 8.

    #41055
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    The acc wanted the number one more than they wanted another team I the tourney

    This ain’t football….

    What the ACC wants is for every game to be just like this one….
    regardless of who wins or loses….

    That gets players, ratings and mo’ money….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41056
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It’s the kind of psychological blow that makes you say/think “why bother?”

    Monumental coaching hurdle for MG and staff to get this team ready for Tuesday.

    #41057
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    For some reason, that no call makes me think of the phantom intentional foul called on us against Vandy.

    #41058
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Vandy = Vanderbilt in NCAA Tourney.

    #41059
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Monumental coaching hurdle for MG and staff to get this team ready for Tuesday.

    Indeed.

    #41060
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Monumental coaching hurdle for MG and staff to get this team ready for Tuesday.

    I’m not so sure of that… Beej…

    If any of our kids are not damn proud of what they did tonight…. well…. they might need to move on….

    Coach just needs to get the kids to hold the “emotion and energy” from this one for two days and bring it on Tuesday.

    I would rather have this challenge than the one that would have been… if we had been blow out by thirty as predicted.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41061
    Rick
    Keymaster

    The acc wanted the number one more than they wanted another team I the tourney

    This ain’t football….

    What the ACC wants is for every game to be just like this one….
    regardless of who wins or loses….

    That gets players, ratings and mo’ money….

    Nope they want everyone to talk about how the acc had the number one team in the nation.

    Corrupt

    #41062
    ldr of the pk 75
    Participant

    We played well enough, not good. A good team beats Cuse by 15 tonight. Our offensive ability is suspect at best as demonstrated in the last 6 min. We have a lead and the ball with about 30 secs left and manage to give it away twice. Complain all you want about the refs, but till we learn to shoot and make smart plays, we’ll come up short when it counts. Without Warren and Washington we’re nothing, and they can’t do it all.

    #41063
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Some will respond, others will whine to their gf’s.

    #41064
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I was all prepared to have a ho-hum day after losing but this shit still gets under my skin and pisses me off, even after I’ve learned to not let the games effect me this way. I’m trying not to let it ruin my night but it’s not working.

    #41065
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Monumental coaching hurdle for MG and staff to get this team ready for Tuesday.

    I’m not so sure of that… Beej…

    If any of our kids are not damn proud of what they did tonight…. well…. they might need to move on….
    Coach just needs to get the kids to hold the “emotion and energy” from this one for two days and bring it on Tuesday.

    This is a back breaking loss reminiscent of the Thornton dunk

    #41066
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I was all prepared to have a ho-hum day after losing but this shit still gets under my skin and pisses me off, even after I’ve learned to not let the games effect me this way. I’m trying not to let it ruin my night but it’s not working.

    Me too.

    I was fine losing this game but top have it stolen is just infuriating

    #41067
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    … I’m with you Jiggs… I just feel damn bad for the kids… most kids just don’t get a chance to do this but once or twice in their entire playing careers….

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41068
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    There were a couple of very stale possessions late, but Cuse does that to everyone. It is very difficult to play that zone and they really amp it up when the game is on the line. So that is understandable to me. The turnovers really hurt. Didn’t get a good look at the last one leading to the go ahead points. Perhaps a foul?

    The foul discrepency is certainly concerning. We battled hard for sure. It does seem very suspect.

    #41069
    Rick
    Keymaster

    … I’m with you Jiggs… I just feel damn bad for the kids… most kids just don’t get a chance to do this but once or twice in their entire playing careers….

    They are at state they will get plenty of chances to be screwed over.

    #41070
    1.21 Jigawatts
    Keymaster

    I’m sorry ldr but that’s not how it’s supposed to be, State was the better team tonight even if they weren’t a great team. They played better than SU just enough to go into their place and walk out with a close victory. Then the f’ing refs took that away.

    #41071
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Just heard an unrelated news story, and the end line was “You can’t control the events, only how you react to them.” It certainly fits in this case.

    Re: Des – State kept playing after his miscue and Anthony drew the key foul against Ennis. There was still a game to be won. They could have packed it in.

    #41072
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Did we win another game that year, after the meltdown in College Park? Think it was 2000.

    I just get madder and madder. We earned this one, people. Earned it. Worked for it.

    #41073
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Now… just for fun… and speaking of coaching challenges… try this one…

    Let’s say we had won this game…

    How in the hell do you get the kids feet back on the ground and get them focused and ready to play in two days or less ??

    Good luck with that.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #41074
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I’m sorry ldr but that’s not how it’s supposed to be, State was the better team tonight even if they weren’t a great team. They played better than SU just enough to go into their place and walk out with a close victory. Then the f’ing refs took that away.

    Yup
    The better team lost tonight.

    And k’s butt buddy got out coached tonight

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