Why do we bother caring?

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After all of the calls for ‘illegal breathing’against anyone in red & whate that dared played defense near James Michael McAdoo tonight…the video below shows…of course, no foul on McAdoo and out of bounds off State. Without the bad call, there is probably no way that Carolina wins with State up two with 35 seconds to go and TJ Warren shooting two free throws. Of course, without a lot of the strange calls – like three of TJ Warren’s four fouls – there is no way that Carolina wins. But, we all know that. We know it going in. We’ve known it for the entirety of our lives. At what point do we all have to look ourselves in the mirror and tell ourselves that we are INSANE for expecting anything else? Watching re-runs of WWE’s Raw on Hulu Plus provides you a better chance of witnessing fairness and an unexpected result.

Goodnight.

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  • 02/27/2014 at 3:30 PM #43124
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    Rick wrote:

    So are you saying I did not “attack you repeatedly” or that I did?

    Are you saying those weren’t directed at me or they were?

    02/27/2014 at 3:31 PM #43125
    Wpack222
    Participant

    I’m glad I don’t have kids to send to school clad in state gear. It’d be near child abuse. ”

    ….and you never will.

    02/27/2014 at 3:41 PM #43128
    Rick
    Keymaster
    pakfanistan wrote:
    Rick wrote:

    So are you saying I did not “attack you repeatedly” or that I did?

    Are you saying those weren’t directed at me or they were?

    So that is a no. Gotcha

    02/27/2014 at 3:47 PM #43130
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    Rick wrote:

    So that is a no. Gotcha

    What are you even talking about? You asked for examples, I gave you several examples.

    wat.

    02/27/2014 at 3:49 PM #43132
    Rick
    Keymaster
    pakfanistan wrote:
    Rick wrote:

    So that is a no. Gotcha[/quote

    What are you even talking about? You asked for examples, I gave you several examples.

    No you did not.
    I did not call you dense or irrational or dumb or anything else.
    I did state surprise that you are already an alum, which is still shocking to me. If you took that as an insult I certainly apologize for it.

    02/27/2014 at 3:54 PM #43134
    pakfanistan
    Participant
    Rick wrote:

    No you did not.
    I did not call you dense or irrational or dumb.

    Jesus Christ it’s like playin’ cards with my brother’s kids or somethin.

    I never said you said any of those things.

    I said you had repeatedly attacked me, which I then clearly demonstrated for you with your own words from your own posts, directed at me and other posters.

    Do you have split personality disorder? Do you suddenly find yourself somewhere with no memory of how you got there?

    BTW, I’m still waiting for you to show me where I called you or anyone else dumb.

    02/27/2014 at 4:00 PM #43137
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    Triple P, glad to see you’re among the land of the living. Haven’t seen you post in a while. I got a child on the way, so I expect my TV watching time is going to decline as well. Maybe I’ll give up college basketball, cause’ I agree, it’s nearly unbearable to watch. I could hardly stomach the first half last night it was so bad on many different levels.

    02/27/2014 at 4:05 PM #43139
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Rick,

    I’m still busy for a while. I won’t be ready for a tag-up till next the weekend.

    02/27/2014 at 4:15 PM #43141
    Rick
    Keymaster
    pakfanistan wrote:

    These aren’t directed at me, but…

    Wah wah,
    Somebody dares to disagree with the great cowdog.

    Either you or cow dog. It is so predictable.

    Whatever. You win. The refs are awesome and State sucks.
    That seems to be what you want.

    I don’t feel like going back farther than a page in your post history.

    So even though you say in this post “they are not directed at me”, your contention is these posts are where I “repeatedly attacked you?

    OK, then I apologize for calling you the “great cowdog” and I apologize for calling you “predictable” and saying you win. When I said “cowdog” I was actually referring to the poster known as “cowdog” and when I want to refer to use I try to use the name “packfanistan” since that is your screen name but if you took offense to that and thought I was referring to you when I said “cowdog” I must say I am sorry.

    02/27/2014 at 4:16 PM #43142
    Rick
    Keymaster
    tjfoose1 wrote:

    Rick,

    I’m still busy for a while. I won’t be ready for a tag-up till next the weekend.

    Oh I got this.

    02/27/2014 at 4:18 PM #43143
    ncsu1987
    Participant

    What is it about this game that drags me back in? Every time I go through this, I swear I have to give it up, that I won’t let it tear the heart out of me. And yet there I was, again, last night – my figurative bowl in hand, figuratively asking the fates “Please, sir, may I have another….”

    One of the earlier posts (Ms. Wuffette, perhaps?) rang true for me: you can’t look at aggregate stats to adjudicate the impact of officials. Just because the number of fouls called on both teams was the same doesn’t have anything to do with the impact of an individual call. In three games this year, we’ve had calls with game-changing impact and all three have gone against NC State.

    There’s merit to the argument that we had opportunities outside those calls in every game. I 100% agree. In all three, I think, we could have won the game from the free throw line, but we didn’t. So yes, on the missed opportunities.

    Why can’t both be true?

    And I’m really, really tired of the argument that calling out the refs is “whining” because they should have just executed or “made the play.” That phrase in particular grates on me. Because I counter that with “We DID make the play you’re asking for, it was just taken away.” Wake game: defender DID make the play you wanted, he made the guard change direction and pick up dribble to create the turnover – it just wasn’t called. Syracuse: Kyle and TJ DID make the play you wanted – it was just taken away. UNC: the team DID make the plays at the end of regulation and in OT – they worked the ball into the hands of the ACC’s leading scorer (just like it was drawn up) to put themselves in position to win – it was just taken away. So, in the end, are you really saying “Well, so they should have made one MORE play…?”

    When young teams play more talented, more experienced teams, the margin for error from a win perspective is near zero. In games like that, bad calls DO alter the outcome. Yes, one more well executed play or made free throw could have won the game. But when so many good plays WERE made, we shouldn’t be asking for “one more” because of incompetency.

    So proud that the staff is able to keep the team playing at this level, even after all the adversity. So proud of the team for responding with such an amazing effort and game. People will be talking about this one for a long time.

    02/27/2014 at 4:18 PM #43144
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    There were four additional quotes you conveniently omitted.

    I added the last two because I was establishing a pattern of behavior for you.

    02/27/2014 at 4:19 PM #43145
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    At least we didn’t get screwed this bad. Or did we?

    A double OT playoff game. Guess the refs had dinner reservations.

    02/27/2014 at 4:27 PM #43148
    Rick
    Keymaster
    pakfanistan wrote:

    There were four additional quotes you conveniently omitted.

    I added the last two because I was establishing a pattern of behavior for you.

    Oh I did not know you were serious about those being attacks.
    Since you do I will happily try to make things right with you.
    1) I apoligze for calling you an alumus. I would have thought that was a compliment because I am not embarrassed by that.
    2) I apologize for calling you a fan. Same comment as above.
    3) I apologize for suggesting there was a logical extension to your argument. There must not be one.
    4) I apologize for suggesting your opinion is as valid as Steve Logan’s. That is not the case since you do not want it to be.

    There, can we be best buds now?

    02/27/2014 at 4:33 PM #43151
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    That is impressive. Do you work in politics?

    02/27/2014 at 4:37 PM #43153
    peshtoofresh
    Participant

    Our fan base really disappoints me. You guys act like you’re out there making the plays or coaching these kids. I’d like to see any of you play well on a pickup basketball level. These kids don’t owe us anything. The only thing we can ask is that they go out and play hard. These guys have heart. Get over yourselves, enjoy the game and accept the fact that we aren’t Duke or UNC.

    02/27/2014 at 5:00 PM #43156
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    “Rick: A study in revisionist history.”

    Let’s examine the validity of the following claims:

    1) I apoligze for calling you an alumus. I would have thought that was a compliment because I am not embarrassed by that.
    2) I apologize for calling you a fan. Same comment as above.
    3) I apologize for suggesting there was a logical extension to your argument. There must not be one.
    4) I apologize for suggesting your opinion is as valid as Steve Logan’s. That is not the case since you do not want it to be.

    First, the quotes I provided were in reverse chronological order so let’s start with #4

    His opinion is every bit as valid as yours and I would have thought more than mine given how much you hate my opinions. But it seems you just ignore anyone who disagrees with you.

    See that bolded part that has nothing to do with the validity of yours, mine, or anyone else’s opinion? I don’t hate your opinion, I do hate the absolute, undeniable truth that you haven’t responded to a single point that I’ve made while simultaneously playing the victim. Also, that bolded part by you, that’s called ‘projection’ on your part.

    #3

    You and I cannot control the team so we should not bother about discussing them. That is the logical extension of your absurd argument.

    First claim, my views aren’t worth discussing. Apparently only the refs are worth discussing. Second claim, you were ‘logically’ extending my argument, which is bogus since you had purposefully misrepresented my argument, and then proceeded to call it absurd.

    #2

    I did not realize you were part of the team. I thought we as fans were discussing the game. My bad.

    Further misrepresentation of my position because I apparently am not allowed to use first person pronouns to reference my alma mater.

    #1

    You said you are an alumnus? I have to admit I figured you were still at State given your seeming inability to argue without calling someone stupid.

    Finally, you’re clearly not calling me an alumnus here, you’re implying that I’m immature, and also accusing me of a pattern calling people stupid, which is an outright lie.

    But whatever dude, you’re clearly more interesting in antagonizing me than you are actually discussing NC State, or basketball, or anything even vaguely related to the game.

    02/27/2014 at 5:25 PM #43161
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Does that mean we are not best buds?

    02/27/2014 at 5:34 PM #43162
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    I think he likes me better. Sorry.

    02/27/2014 at 5:34 PM #43163
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    “At least we didn’t get screwed this bad. Or did we?
    A double OT playoff game. Guess the refs had dinner reservations.    ”

    LOL

    02/27/2014 at 5:43 PM #43164
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    ^ A clock “malfunction” at Cameron, that greatly aids Duke in winning a one possession ball game in the closing seconds? Wha wha whhaaaat?…. Surely you do not mean to imply some sort of official malfeasance was at hand? Surely you jest?

    If Clemson had only played better and been up by three in Duke’s final possession, that would have never happened. It’s their own dumb stupid fault, the big dummies. They gotta learn to overcome those occasion random qwerks in the clock that are part of the game.

    Sorry, I’ll stop calling you Shirley.

    02/27/2014 at 5:48 PM #43165
    Rick
    Keymaster
    tjfoose1 wrote:

    I think he likes me better. Sorry.

    I am not sure my heart can take that much disappointment

    02/27/2014 at 6:14 PM #43167
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Whip it good.

    02/27/2014 at 6:22 PM #43168
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    THAT horse is sure to run again, Paki.

    02/27/2014 at 6:26 PM #43170
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Giddy up

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