NC STATE vs GEORGIA TECH PREVIEW

Time: 1:00pm
TV: ACC Network
Announcers: Steve Martin, Mike Gminski

The Pack is coming off a 6 day rest after beating Maryland 65-56 without TJ Warren who was sitting due to a sprained ankle suffered during the previous game against Duke. The good news, TJ Warren is expected to play today. The bad news is he isn’t 100%. The other Pack players, while they didn’t shoot very well, appeared to learn that if they played tough defense and actually took a shot instead of waiting to see what Warren was going to do. Hopefully this is a lesson that won’t need to be learned again and with the influx of Buckets back into the lineup this will be a better Pack squad than we’ve seen this year.

The Yellow Jackets aren’t very good on offense, in fact they are average at best but they are pretty good on defense. This style of play appears to be a trademark of Brian Gregory’s teams at GT, who is another of the 2012 class of new coaches in the ACC. The only place they appear to be struggling on defense is causing turnovers, which I know the Pack are thankful for, but are very good at rebounding and limiting opponents second chance opportunities, which isn’t a good sign though they are struggling with Carter Jr. out of the line-up.

Georgia Tech has been bitten by the injury bug (from their game notes):

• Tech has played its ACC games this season with as few as eight scholarship players, competing without four members of the team who had combined for 22 starts and were key parts of the rotation at the start of pre-season practice – forward Robert Carter, Jr., swingman Jason Morris, and guards Travis Jorgenson and Solomon Poole.
Morris returned to play at Boston College after missing two games with a concussion.
• The absence of Carter, Jr., has hurt Tech in several ways, most notably on the glass, where the Yellow Jackets have been beaten on the boards three times in the six games the ACC’s leading rebounder has missed. Tech had won the rebound battle against all 13 non-conference opponents this season.
• The absences of Poole (missed last four games) and Jorgenson (knee injury on Nov. 20) have led to increased playing time for red-shirt freshman Corey Heyward, who missed last season with a knee injury of his own.
• Tech faced Pitt and Miami without four of those players – forwards Robert Carter, Jr. (knee), and Jason Morris (concussion), and guards Travis Jorgenson (knee) and Solomon Poole (migraine). Morris returned for the Boston College game on Jan. 21.
• Tech has been without sophomore forward Robert Carter, Jr., No. 1 on the ACC rebounding chart as late as Jan. 18, for its last six games after he sustained a tear of the meniscus in his left knee during the Yellow Jackets’ game at Charlotte Dec. 29. Carter, Jr., underwent surgery Jan. 7 and it is not yet known whether he can return this season.
• This is the second significant injury Tech has sustained since the season began. Freshman guard Travis Jorgenson, who had averaged nearly 20 minutes a game off the bench and was becoming a key reserve as a point guard, was lost for the season with a torn ACL in the season’s fourth game.
• Morris missed the Pitt and Miami games after suffering a concussion in a traffic accident Jan. 11, four games after getting back in the starting lineup. He was sidelined for Tech’s first 10 games this season after surgery to repair a stress fracture in his left foot.
• Poole, who started five games early in the year, has missed the last four games with a migraine and other medical issues.
• The Carter, Jr., Poole and Morris absences all came on the heels of a rotational adjustment Tech’s coaching staff made during the Christmas break and implemented for the Charlotte game. Morris was inserted in the starting lineup in place of a struggling Chris Bolden. Freshmen Quinton Stephens and Corey Heyward were given more prominent backup roles in place of Stacey and Solomon Poole, respectively, who were also struggling.

Probable Starters:
#23 Trae Golden (6-2 205 SR) Guard
#30 Corey Heyward (6-1 221 R-FR) Guard
#3 Marcus Georges-Hunt (6-5 219 SO) G/F
#24 Kammeon Holsey (6-8 234 SR) Forward
#5 Daniel Miller (6-11 275 SR) Center

Heyward has been pushed into a position he’s not entirely ready for and while that benefits the Pack the remaining 4 starters aren’t bad. Holsey and Miller are large threats around the basket, neither has taken a 3 this season. Golden (a senior transfer from Tenn) and Hunt are more dangerous in their versatility inside and outside the arc and getting to the line.

Bench:
#1 Stacey Poole (6-4 199 JR), #11 Chris Bolden (6-3 216 SO), #12 Quinton Stephens (6-8 184 FR), #14 Jason Morris (6-5 231 SR)

The Jackets are thin, extremely thin, when it comes to production due to their injuries. Stacey Poole and Bolden both have struggled this season and Morris hasn’t played much and has suffered a concussion this season. Looking at their ORatings Poole and Stephens are the only two who are putting up average numbers. Half of Bolden’s shots come from behind the arc and he’s shooting less than .300 from both so a soft coverage is okay if he gets the ball.

It’s no shock the Jackets have the edge in the 3 areas where the Pack are Facepalm awful. The problems arise in the fact the Jackets match up better against the Pack’s offensive strengths.

Once again the Pack’s poor defense shows, even against a poor offensive team.

Georgia Tech is a team the Pack should, and must, beat but basketball is a game of match ups and frankly the Pack just doesn’t match up well against the Jackets starting 5. This may come down to how well State’s bench performs.

Predictor:
KenPom likes the Pack by 7.

Series Shorts:
• Georgia Tech has split its last eight ACC road games, winning at Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, Miami and Boston College in that stretch. The Yellow Jackets won only three times in 36 ACC road games before that dating back to the 2008-09 season.
• NC State has won the last three meetings against Tech after the Yellow Jackets pulled off an 82-71 win over the Wolfpack on Jan. 11, 2012, which was the first encounter between Brian Gregory and Mark Gottfried as the teams’ head coaches.
• NC State swept the season series with Tech for the first time since 2008-09, capturing an 83-70 Wolfpack victory at the PNC Arena in Raleigh and a 70-57 win at McCamish Pavilion.
• The teams have split the last 12 meetings following a seven-game Tech skid. The Yellow Jackets have won twice at PNC Arena during that stretch, while the Wolfpack have won three times in Atlanta.
• Tech is 22-16 against the Wolfpack in Atlanta, including one home-court meeting that was played at the Omni in 1986 and one at Philips Arena in 2012.
• Since it joined the ACC, Tech is 29-40 against NC State, including regular-season and tournament.
• The Jackets are 9-30 against NC State in Raleigh, including a 2-10 mark at PNC Arena.
• Tech is 3-3 against NC State in ACC Tournament games, the last meeting occurring in 2003 in a 71-65 Wolfpack victory in Greensboro. The Jackets won first-round games in 1996 in Greensboro
(88-73) and 1990 in Charlotte (76-67).

Magic Number: 65
NC State is 12-2 when they score 65 or more points this season. (NCCU, WFU)
NC State is 6-7 when they allow 65 or more points this season.

Georgia Tech is 10-3 when they score 65 or more points this season. (Dayton, Mississippi, Pitt)
Georgia Tech is 3-7 when they allow 65 or more points this season.

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  • #38644
    Tau837
    Participant

    So much for the officiating conspiracy theory.

    Why?

    The one right doesn’t erase all wrongs.

    Because, that play could have been called a defensive foul or a no call, which would have furthered the purpose of the conspiracy. The fact that it wasn’t ended up clinching the game.

    Or maybe that particular ref just wasn’t in on it.

    BTW, for the game, State had 18 fouls, Tech had 19. State shot 20 free throws and missed the front end on a 1-and-1 so should have shot 21. Tech shot 23 free throws, not sure if they missed any front ends.

    Not much of a disparity there for the conspiracy theorists.

    #38645
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    The refs cost GTech that game

    … just fueling the fire.. have a good night! Go Clemson.

    #38646
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Oh, wow.

    The refs had everything to do with that win. Very, very good game for the zeebs letting State play.

    To not see that is…well…absurd.

    #38647
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    The only thing better than watching our kids play like a TEAM and WIN is
    watching Rick and Tau duke it out on the sidelines…

    Now… all we needed was that stupid white polar bear sitting between the girls..
    and we would have had a three ring circus.

    Now if Clempson can pull the miracle on the Hill.. everything would be perfect.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #38648
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant
    #38649
    Rick
    Keymaster

    So much for the officiating conspiracy theory.

    Why?

    The one right doesn’t erase all wrongs.

    Because, that play could have been called a defensive foul or a no call, which would have furthered the purpose of the conspiracy. The fact that it wasn’t ended up clinching the game.

    Or maybe that particular ref just wasn’t in on it.

    BTW, for the game, State had 18 fouls, Tech had 19. State shot 20 free throws and missed the front end on a 1-and-1 so should have shot 21. Tech shot 23 free throws, not sure if they missed any front ends.

    Not much of a disparity there for the conspiracy theorists.

    And the bulk of the complain was being done in the FIRST half when all if the calls were going against us.

    How about you quit worrying about what people complain about. Everyone had their own opinions and yours is no better our wise than anyone else’s

    #38650
    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Good win, especially given the 11/20 from the charity stripe. Interesting playing time with Tyler today–did Cat Barber even play in the overtime?

    #38651
    Tau837
    Participant

    So it looks like Tyler played the last 6 minutes of regulation and the entire OT, meaning Cat was on the bench for that entire stretch. Is that right? I’m guessing Cat played more minutes total for the game, but that is quite a turnaround for Gott down the stretch. And it was the right move.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward. I’m guessing Cat still starts but Tyler will get into games earlier, at which point their effectiveness will dictate how much they play after their first stretches.

    #38652
    Rick
    Keymaster

    The refs cost GTech that game

    … just fueling the fire.. have a good night! Go Clemson.

    Lol now someone is trolling

    #38653
    Rick
    Keymaster

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out going forward. I’m guessing Cat still starts but Tyler will get into games earlier, at which point their effectiveness will dictate how much they play after their first stretches.

    That is what I would like to see happen but we will see.

    Last year when zo came back I thought we would see more Wbs than we did

    #38654
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Pack Ladies with a 7 point lead in ATL with under 10 to play…in case anyone cares.

    #38655
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    What won this game was….

    1. GOTT’s move to the 2/3 zone
    2. TEAM BALL — well rounded effort on both ends of the court.
    3. NO QUIT — we played the OT as hard and as under control as the first five minutes….
    4. Tyler Lewis….

    Refs not a factor.

    However… I will say from here it appeared that there was one ref who looked a little inexperienced and hestitant… Didn’t recognize him…Don’t know his name… Next time I see him he needs to be on the court at DII or JUCO to get some seasoning.

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    #38656
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Pack Ladies with a 7 point lead in ATL with under 10 to play…in case anyone cares.

    Is it on tv

    #38657
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Pack Ladies with a 7 point lead in ATL with under 10 to play…in case anyone cares.

    Is it on tv

    ESPN3

    #38658
    Tau837
    Participant

    How about you quit worrying about what people complain about. Everyone had their own opinions and yours is no better our wise than anyone else’s

    After my first post, all of my posts were either about the ongoing game action or in response to someone else commenting on one of my posts. I have given my opinions and never said mine is better than anyone else’s. Nor have I insulted anyone or given a nasty tone to any of my posts, which is more than can be said of others, including you.

    Apparently my first “enough whining about the refs” post, which I did not direct at anyone specifically, touched a nerve. Lesson learned. I will never again question, criticize, or complain about SFN members complaining about the officiating.

    #38659
    Rick
    Keymaster

    What won this game was….

    1. GOTT’s move to the 2/3 zone
    2. TEAM BALL — well rounded effort on both ends of the court.
    3. NO QUIT — we played the OT as hard and as under control as the first five minutes….
    4. Tyler Lewis….

    Refs not a factor.

    However… I will say from here it appeared that there was one ref who looked a little inexperienced and hestitant… Didn’t recognize him…Don’t know his name… Next time I see him he needs to be on the court at JUCO to get some seasoning.

    I disagree. The calls were different the second half than the first. You can say they evened or but there is no doubt imo it was a factor.

    The rest I agree with

    #38660
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    The refs did let BOTH SIDES play the last 10 minutes plus OT. Completely inconsistent from how the first 30 were called (and that was not called for both sides).

    #38661
    Rick
    Keymaster

    How about you quit worrying about what people complain about. Everyone had their own opinions and yours is no better our wise than anyone else’s

    After my first post, all of my posts were either about the ongoing game action or in response to someone else commenting on one of my posts. I have given my opinions and never said mine is better than anyone else’s. Nor have I insulted anyone or given a nasty tone to any of my posts, which is more than can be said of others, including you.

    Apparently my first “enough whining about the refs” post, which I did not direct at anyone specifically, touched a nerve. Lesson learned. I will never again question, criticize, or complain about SFN members complaining about the officiating.

    I told you it was a pet peeve of mine.

    But I did go overboard with the name calling. For that I am sorry

    #38662
    Tau837
    Participant

    OK, no worries.

    #38663
    Rick
    Keymaster

    The refs did let BOTH SIDES play the last 10 minutes plus OT. Completely inconsistent from how the first 30 were called (and that was not called for both sides).

    I agree.

    Weirdly, in the FIRST half they shoot more threes and more free throws. In the second glad the same was for us. That seems very counterintuitive to me.

    #38664
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Women leading @ GT 67-61, 5:05 to play.

    #38665
    Tau837
    Participant

    Weirdly, in the FIRST half they shoot more threes and more free throws. In the second glad the same was for us. That seems very counterintuitive to me.

    I didn’t really keep track of it, but one thing that would contribute to that is if they were getting offensive rebounds and getting fouled in the process of getting them or going back up to shoot, or even passing out and catching us out of defensive position, leading to reaches, etc. They killed us on the offensive boards (18-9), not sure if that was a factor in the first half fouls.

    #38666
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    OK Rick … whatever…
    glad you girls kissed and made up…

    This has me curious…

    1. Tech stayed in the game in the first half with there outside shooting and free throws on those jump shots…
    2. GOTT went to the 2/3 Zone in the second half… but VANDWAGON (7 footer) rides the pines..
    3. Tech doesn’t get the outside shoots… instead Daniel Miller (7 footer) keeps Tech in the game in the paint.

    Game goes down to the wire with both teams fighting hard. Could have gone either way.
    Some thing is missing here…
    MR. DOG — you’re the Zone D expert…. what is it ??

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    #38667
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Pack women now up 74-62 with 4:04 to go.

    #38668
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    75-67, under a minute to go.

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