NCAA Tournament: NC State vs Temple in Dayton on Friday at 1:40pm on TBS (7:05pm update)

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2013 NCAA Tournament vs Temple

NC State received the East Region’s 8th seed in the East Region and will play Temple in Dayton, Ohio on Friday. With a win, the Wolfpack would most likely play #1 seeded Indiana on Sunday.

The 24-10 Wolfpack finished #33 in the RPI and was generally projected by most ‘Bracketologists’ to land on the eight line. The committee SAYS that they try to adjust bids and seeding for key injuries through the season. It is hard to imagine that NC State received such consideration for Lorenzo Brown’s injury this year. The Wolfpack was 24-7 for the year with our starting point guard and finished the season 8-3 after Brown returned from injury.

Miami, who defeated NC State in the ACC Tournament semi-finals yesterday, claimed the #2 seed in the same South region as the Wolfpack. The Hurricanes become the first team in ACC history to win the the regular season out-right and claim the ACC Tournament Championship and NOT get a #1 seed in NCAA Tournament. With the Canes getting slotted to play in the East I have to wonder why NC State wasn’t sent to the West to play opposite Gonzaga?

You can click here for the NCAA Tournament bracket.

 

In other news of interest to NC State and Atlantic Coast Conference fans:

  • Duke’s #2 seed in the Midwest Region challenges a lot of rationale. The Blue Devils finished the season as the #1 rated team in the RPI, yet were selected to be in the same region as the #1 overall seed (Louisville). That would intimate that the #1 RPI translated into a #8 overall seed. But, the NCAA insists they don’t use an ‘S-curve’ methodology and that seeding is almost more like slotting — done by location.

 

  • North Carolina gets an 8 seed in the South Region and will play Villanova on Friday. With a win, the Tar Heels will probably play Roy Williams’ former school, Kansas. The Jayhawks knocked both the Wolfpack and the Tar Heels out of the last year’s NCAA Tournament.

 

  • If the NCAA did our local schools any favor it is that they scheduled State, Duke and Carolina to all play on a Friday and Sunday cadence. If all three Triangle teams win on Thursday then this area is going to be CRAZY on Sunday!!

 

  • Virginia and Maryland both fell short in their quest to make the Tournament – leaving only four ACC teams in this year’s tournament. Making it even more interesting that NC State and Miami are in the same bracket.

 

  • At the end of the day, I think it is fair to draw the conclusion that the ACC really got screwed at every turn this year. If Billy Packer was still working for CBS I could guarantee you that we’d at least get some of these ACC-centric questions asked this evening.

 

  • I must’ve been too deep in typing — someone please point me to Arizona State’s seed? #sarcasm

 

  • SFN will do our best to get interviews with Kentucky’s Ryan Harrow and Old Dominion’s Deshawn Painter to discus their NCAA plans this year. 
  • Our game against Temple is scheduled to play Friday at 1:40 pm EDT on TBS.

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126 Responses to NCAA Tournament: NC State vs Temple in Dayton on Friday at 1:40pm on TBS (7:05pm update)

  1. Classof89 03/17/2013 at 9:51 PM #

    I like Howell getting six days to heal up. Bring ’em on! Do we know time of game yet?

  2. JohnGalt78 03/17/2013 at 10:16 PM #

    Did I miss Temple declining the invitation? I don’t think we have a bye through to IU.

  3. phillypacker 03/17/2013 at 11:15 PM #

    Three Things:

    1. Media check: has anyone seen one speck of evidence that we were ever a bubble team?

    2. I think there is a little bit of overcorrection happening here with all the doom and gloom. The difference between Miami and State on Saturday was primarily exhaustion from three games in three days. (Also note Maryland beat Duke with high energy then seemed fatigued like State in losing to a weaker UNC one day later.) UNC played a better game against Miami than State did and did not get as close.

    Unless they self-destruct for some oddball reason, I could easily see Larranaga reliving his George Mason run with a much better basketball team.

    3. I think seeding at the top of the brackets was more about who was hot at the last than in most years. Miami should have been a #1 rather than Gonzaga.

    4. UNC did get jobbed but how nice for that to happen to them for once instead of us.

  4. Texpack 03/17/2013 at 11:23 PM #

    Tip set for 1:40 ET

  5. Pack1998 03/17/2013 at 11:33 PM #

    Looks like seeds are not as important this year.

    With a few exceptions – there will be a lot of great weekend games.

  6. Sweet jumper 03/17/2013 at 11:39 PM #

    Bubble guts led UK right off the Bubble. Cal says team lacks leadership and cohesiveness. Karma bitch. I like the Pack’s draw. If I was a #1 seed, I would dread the possibility of playing State in Round of 32. We are a very dangerous team when we play tough D, run the offense and get the transition game going. Need Calvin to show up and not force things on offense and avoid the stupid early fouls. Painter and Harris transfers really hurt. Survive and Advance documentary was awesome. Hopefully all current team members watched. Go Pack!

  7. BAEpackProf 03/17/2013 at 11:56 PM #

    The first two games are a good draw for us considering we deserve to be an 8 seed.

    While this makes me no expert in IU, I watched them live in Minneapolis a few weeks ago. A game in which they lost to the Golden Gophers (an 11 seed in the NCAAT).
    IU is beatable by State, IFF all our guys are executing. I know that I am wrongly influenced by “Survive and Advance” but I like our chances. As Gott says, they gotta guard us too, pal.

    Go Pack!

  8. STLPack01 03/18/2013 at 12:16 AM #

    As much as I hate the 8 seed, and feel that we had an argument for a 7 (Hello, Illinoise???) it really is a good draw for us. IF we get past Indiana, who stands in our way? It really is an easy region.

    I’m sweatin’ the first and second round games, but if we get through those, I’m looking for the final four.

  9. Mike 03/18/2013 at 12:45 AM #

    I think we should just cancel the games now and shut down this website. Most of you have given up already, though I will say the later posts had some optimism.

    We can beat any team in the country on any given night. I know we can also lose to any team in the country on any given night. But that is no reason to give up yet. I actually like our chances against IU, but I am more concerned about Temple. Temple is the type team we could sleep walk against but I think Gott will have them ready.

  10. Alpha Wolf 03/18/2013 at 12:59 AM #

    I think State will get by Temple but will have to play its best game of the year against Indiana to advance. That’s a fair assumption, considering that IU is a #1 seed. Let’s just say that I am hopeful, and that’s also a reasonable feeling, considering that we would be the massive underdog on Sunday.

    Thing is, I have seen two different kinds of NC State squads this year, and I know for fact that for the team to go far in this tournament, that “bad” NC State cannot show up for forty minutes. Or even fifteen.

  11. JeremyH 03/18/2013 at 3:55 AM #

    Looking past Temple (I have this luxury since I’m not on the team), re: the Indiana match-up, a quote from gangster movie comes to mind: “”You wanna be big time? You gonna die, big time!” OK, maybe that is a bit extreme, how about: “Go big or go home!” I certainly don’t like the game for moving past that round, but, what an opportunity for the program, and an opportunity to wipe out every single negative critique uttered this season.

  12. wufpup76 03/18/2013 at 7:31 AM #

    “Does anyone really believe that some of the at-large teams playing early next week in Dayton could beat all of the Big 4 teams, including Duke twice?”

    Sorry 61 – fair argument, but I have to disagree with you. VCU made the Final 4 from Dayton, and throttled some big name programs along the way. George Mason essentially did the same under Larranaga (even though the field was 65 at the time).

    While we could pick apart La Salle, Boise, Middle Tenn, and St. Mary’s, we could easily do the same with Maryland and Virginia. The fact is that UMd and UVa blew too many opportunities and went under the guillotine due to non-conference scheduling that only Herb and Seth Greenberg would be proud of.

    Point of fact, assuming Maryland got matched up with any of those four programs mentioned before in Dayton – I think the only match-up I would pick them to win is *maybe* against Middle Tenn. Boise is solid but very unspectacular, La Salle may surprise, and I believe St. Mary’s would throttle Maryland with superior guard play.

    Middle Tenn. got in due to a great scheduling strength cpu number and an abundance of road victories. Do they belong? Debatable. But Maryland and UVa don’t really have much to argue about in my opinion.

    Anyway, debates like this make it a lot of fun. The thing I don’t get is why – you assume – these very smart guys coaching these teams don’t heed the lessons handed out every year. Scheduling matters. A lot. That’s definitely one thing we should all be very thankful to Gottfried for – he learned this lesson early and has a gameplan for great scheduling practices every single season.

    So … we’re in! Party on!

    Go Pack 🙂

  13. Wulfpack 03/18/2013 at 7:40 AM #

    Excellent post, Pup. And I agree. What did UVA or Maryland do that was so impressive? Watch out for teams like VCU, Creighton, and St. Louis. These are very good ball clubs. I do feel like some folks only see the name, and don’t know squat about college ball. You need to stay informed as there are a lot of really good teams under the radar. Hell, VCU finished the year ranked and earned a 5 seed. Better year than us so far.

  14. bill.onthebeach 03/18/2013 at 8:08 AM #

    Twerps and ‘Hoos, just like some other teams…, are schools with “names”, have good coaches and a lot of the type players needed to be successful.

    And I would rank both in my personal list of Top Ten teams that on any given night can beat anybody or not show up at all….

    While strength of schedule counts and the late season games are weighted over the early season games…..

    Getting invited to the Tournament… in the end, is all about “What you did” not “What you could or should have done”…..

  15. ADVENTUROO 03/18/2013 at 8:20 AM #

    Still in the G’boro Coliseum PL.

    Conspiracy Theory Number 1

    The NCAA is miffed at the ACC (N&O article). WHY are the miffed….

    Several theories…..First there was a sweetheart agreement between Swofford and the NCAA. Problem is that there was too much evidence that was glossed over or was to be withheld or was not GIVEN to the NCAA. Result….NCAA is MAD at being conned. PSU only escalated the matter when they used the UNC Whitewash as logic for unfair treatment.

    Next would be that the committee was miffed at the ACC because the NCAA did not come down hard on UNC and appears to be wavering on Miami. See above.

    You GOTTA think that most of the committee members KNOW that when Dean set up the AFAM departement to assist his BB players and hand picked Commish Swofford to implement it that the committee members personally think that Swofford is slimey. I did NOT say he was…only that SOME folks MIGHT think so.

    NCSU was caught in a crossfire. NOT putting the only FOUR ACC Teams into individual regions is stupid….I can NOT explain Stupidity.

    I guess watching (again…I saw it last Monday) Survive and Advance only fired up my LOIC issues with the current UNC mess….and the fact that the NCAA will NOT revisit this….

    I would say that putting UNC where they have to play Kansas in Kansas City in the SECOND round seems like a bit of “slap in the face” so the committee must have thought that some “actions” needed to be taken.

    GO PACK.

  16. Gene 03/18/2013 at 8:24 AM #

    We have to beat Temple.

    The arrogance about beating them will bring down the anger of the basketball gods upon our heads.

    Beware.

    Temple is a guard heavy line-up, think UNC-Cheat-esque, but the players attend actual classes and earn degrees.

    We cannot be careless with the ball, which we tend to be at times and were against Miami (FL), with an extra pass when a player was expecting the guy with the ball to take the shot, let alone Brown’s tendency to fling the ball around with reckless abandon.

  17. tractor57 03/18/2013 at 8:30 AM #

    I enjoyed Bilas’ revision of his “who did you play and who did you beat” to “who did you loose to” – in many ways that sums up quite a lot of the field.

    I have no real issues with the seedings or the teams included/excluded. Thought the Pack got a reasonable seeding and in drawing Temple probably also drew a tough match. But then taking the season as a whole a higher seeding was not deserved.

    The format of the ACCT pretty much eliminates a run the the crown by one of the Thursday players as 4 games in 4 days in that atmosphere is pretty darn tough. The WTF late regular season losses put the Pack in that category which then doubly compounded the NCAAT seeding issue.

    The format of the NCAAT is more agreeable for a team with a limited bench as there are no back to back games but you still have the issue of a player having an off night or having early foul trouble.

  18. Lumpy 03/18/2013 at 8:32 AM #

    C’mon guys, you all know how this plays out. We will beat Temple, Play our best game of the year to upset Indiana, and then come out flat shooting 0 for our first 28 against UNLV, Syracuse, or Montana. We will lose in a way that makes you feel that winning the first two was useless.

  19. triadwolf 03/18/2013 at 8:37 AM #

    Roo,

    I agree with you for the most part, but the ACC did little in OOC scheduling and performance to help their case. The four that got in did their job OOC, except Miami which more than made up for it during the season.

    I think overall the top half of the conference was much better at the end of the year than the beginning and that had a lot to do with having quite a few new/newer coaches and some young lineups adjusting/getting better as the year went on. Next year will be interesting with Miami losing most of their lineup along with us. Fl. St. and BC will be better with their young teams, but will they be good enough? Might be another lean year for the ACC (today’s ACC) in next year’s tourney.

    RE: Survive and Advance: I hope enough people not associated with NC State (and some younger folks who are) watched long enough to see the end. What happened with V is truly a travesty and that episode is the only true mass public acknowledgment stating so in black and white – Great job Whit! If it wasn’t such a travesty, it’d be laughable looking at the violations vs. the punishment and resulting self destruction. To think such minor violations would facilitate the destruction of a major university’s athletics program across the board for 20+ years is amazing.

  20. BJD95 03/18/2013 at 9:00 AM #

    A look at the bracket reveals a much friendlier draw for Miami and NC State than Indiana and Illinois. The numbers of the seeds matter less this year.

    I’m thrilled to avoid Zags. Multiple skilled bigs and two plus guards is a bad matchup.

    New Mexico is the #2 team in RPI. They are legit.

  21. tuckerdorm1983 03/18/2013 at 9:15 AM #

    In the last two games it seems that Leslie is more in control. Get the ball down to Leslie on the side. He should not start from the top of the key.

    If Howell heals up nicely and Lo gets some rest we could beat the owls and give the Hoosiers a run for their money. To get to the sweet sixteen we will have to play our best basketball of the year.

    Cautiously hopeful!!

  22. graywolf 03/18/2013 at 9:38 AM #

    There will be an early exit for wolfpack fans. I don’t see us playing past Sunday assuming we can beat Temple which will be no push over.

  23. patientwuf 03/18/2013 at 9:51 AM #

    Look pretty impressive for 2 days in Greensboro. Third day was all heart and no legs.

    2 games in 3 days- I like our chances.

  24. haze 03/18/2013 at 10:25 AM #

    There are no easy roads for 8-seeds, is what it is.

    Job 1: beat Temple. Tough club but data suggests we should be the favorite. This guarantees nothing. Rest up, go in with your head in the right place, fight for it.

    As for Indiana or other 1-2 seeds, this is a year of extreme parity. Nothing will be a given from Sweet 16 on in, for anyone. This said, 1’s are 1’s… they are better than 8’s by ANY statistical measure. You have to play up to win that game. They may have to play down as well (see Duke-Md).

    Play hard, play smart, hope the shots go down.

  25. 44rules 03/18/2013 at 11:14 AM #

    Not even talking about Indiana right now. Focus on Temple.

    Survive and Advance means concentrating on the task at hand, not one that might be ahead.

    Go Pack. Never give up.

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