Demise began long before the punt return

As you can tell, we are still too depressed to spend much time harping on the dagger to the heart that we took yesterday. I am still emotionally and physically drained. ‘Miserable’ would be the more accurate description right now.

With this said, I am going to take a moment to turn your attention to our message forums if you are looking for some timely Wolfpack topics to discuss.

Of all the articles out there that I could’ve chosen to highlight today, I thought this one from Brett Friedlander might’ve done the best job of encapsulating why yesterday’s loss was so difficult for Wolfpackers – “Wolfpack’s demise began long before decisive punt return”.

The play everyone will remember for years to come is the 74-yard punt return by Giovani Bernard with 13 seconds remaining to give North Carolina a stunning 43-35 victory against N.C. State at Kenan Stadium on Saturday.

That, however, was only the final, dramatic exclamation point in a series of pivotal mistakes – many of them self-inflicted – that helped ended the Wolfpack’s five-game winning streak against the rival Tar Heels.

“It looked good, senior offensive guard R.J. Mattes said after it was all over. “We never capitalized when we should have,” senior offensive tackle R.J. Mattes said after it was all over. “We stalled in the fourth quarter, obviously. Even though that punt return cost us the game, that’s not what caused it. We didn’t capitalize when we should have.

If you are a real glutton for punishment, you can click here to try to count the penalties that Rob Cherry’s ACC Officiating crew missed on Gio Bernard’s punt return. I can’t bare to watch.

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38 Responses to Demise began long before the punt return

  1. blpack 10/28/2012 at 9:39 PM #

    It’s all on us. We allowed them to hang around. It backfired. Now we have to hope for 9-3, 8-4 and then beat somebody in Nashville or maybe El Paso. Lots of games to play.

  2. gcpack 10/28/2012 at 9:39 PM #

    Maybe we dont get Strong but why we cant go after a high profile coach doesn’t make sense to me. I mean we had big money to hire Rick Barnes and didnt end up spending it. Same thing with Gottfried. We didn ‘t hire the high dollar coach and ended up with a likely better one without spending top dollar.

    So why we can’t go after a really good fball coach rather than another rising assistant is beyond me. When did we ever spend alot of money on a head football coach that was proven? Never.

    The only head coach that ended up being a top coach later in his career was Holtz. Not Sheridan(thnx to Toddy Turner)and we all know the rest of the coaching tree that followed and where they ended up.

    It may be time to step up to a higher profile and proven coach. We have nothing to lose except the money we were going to spend on a basketball coach anyway.

    That coach gets at least the fourth best supporting fanbase in a conference that shouldn’t be that hard to win.
    At least we have an AD that so far has proven she knows what it takes to the right coaches.

    Probably wasting my comments here since TOB will probably be back next year unfortunately. I vote to let him go after that quitter performance on the last possesion this weekend.

  3. timberwolf 10/28/2012 at 10:39 PM #

    After emotion, watched the game somewhat levelheaded. I’ll take 8 win years. TOB is my coach. Bash all u want, NC is an 7-10 5 star state on a good year. ACC may get 1-2 of those.

    Dude made BC relavent

  4. PackerInRussia 10/28/2012 at 11:05 PM #

    “Dropped passes were a bigger problem though. We dropped 200 yds of passes.”

    I think this cost us more than anything else. Dropped passes led to punts which led to more opportunities for UNC. There was that one dropped pass (by Creecy?) where he had wide open field in front of him and would have at least put us in field goal position and would have been close to the end zone. Ended up punting and I can’t remember if the UNC TD was after that or not. I know there were other reasons they lost, but those dropped passes were killer. They’d been tossing the ball around all day ; maybe part of the reason why they ran it more. So many things to point to. So painful.

  5. Rochester 10/29/2012 at 8:17 AM #

    Stupid play calling and dropped passes led to that loss. Pure and simple.

    BUT … it’s only a temporary loss. We’ll get the win in a couple of years when UNC has to vacate their 2012 season. How can they play Erik Highsmith in a game? To paraphrase Walter Sobchak: “Eleven year olds, Dude.”

    (“Mark it zero!” will fit too, when they have to vacate the win.)

  6. smile102 10/29/2012 at 8:40 AM #

    “We’ll get the win in a couple of years when UNC has to vacate their 2012 season.”

    We lost on the football field. Man up, be gracious to the victors and don’t let it happen next time.

  7. ADVENTUROO 10/29/2012 at 8:41 AM #

    This is going to be an interesting finish to the season. If the numbers are correct, then TOB’s buyout at the end of this season would be upwards of $5 Mill….assuming that he is making in excess of $1.5 Mill. His original contract, per an N&O article was extended to 2015 by AD Fowler in 2009. Our AD budget is solvent, maybe even generating a surplus, thanks to AD Yow’s new contracts with the Apparel and Media folks. She did give Coach G a raise (well deserved).

    Here is a link from an early SFN article.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/35795/checking-out-acc-attendance-numbers

    The listed capacity of CF is 57,583. If you average the three years, we are at 98.2% of capacity. Now, I know that some of the tickets were discounted, but even with that, you are NOT going to even come close to breaking even on his buy out. I did a scenario. If you figure $1,500,000, then you would have to sell an additional 5000 seats at $50 per ticket. Even with the fact that we discount some tickets, it is mathmatically impossible at current attendance levels to even recover 25% of the cost of a buyout. Not to mention, there are folks like me that have LTR invested and will continue to make my payments.

    So, unless the season falls apart, there will not be any changes this year….next year, the same scenario will be reviewed. I think, realistically, that it would take a drop in attendance NEXT YEAR (2013) to even seriously prompt a buyout…

    However, if the BB team does well and the baseball team continues to bring in some revenue, then AD Yow might look to the future and pull some reserves out and make a change.

    Remember that the Fridge was winning games, but folks did NOT like him and attendance was dropping faster than TOB’s popularity here. Thus, MD AD Yow was trying to stop the financial bleeding when she wanted to make a change there.

    The POWER teams in the country all have HUGE surpluses and they have some MEGA donors. When a coach does NOT live up to their expectations, they buy him out and it is only a ripple in their income stream.

    Just my thoughts….too many years of making decisions on purchasing new equipment, closing plants, building new plants, etc.

  8. OldSchool82 10/29/2012 at 8:42 AM #

    the Defense and Special Teams gave up 43 pts to the Holes. Defense lost the Tennessee and Miami games.
    If State finishes 8-4, no way TOB gets the hook….but Archer has got to go. We haven’t coached or recruited a decent defense in years.

  9. BrownCAT 10/29/2012 at 8:44 AM #

    I had 2 issues with our performance in this game. First, the sheer volume of dropped passes was unacceptable. I would bet the receivers themselves aren’t happy about it either, but they cost Glennon at least 100 yds passing and stalled a few drives.

    The second one I think was the key to the game. It seemed to me every time Bernard was handed or thrown the ball, it was a surprise to the defense. He was always open and always seemed to get to the line of scrimmage untouched. I don’t get it. Somebody should have been assigned to stay on him so closely they were expected to wipe his fanny at halftime. What in the world were the defensive coaches thinking or were they? Do some scouting guys!! Geez….

  10. Tau837 10/29/2012 at 8:47 AM #

    “We’ll get the win in a couple of years when UNC has to vacate their 2012 season.”

    This is incorrect. When wins are vacated from one team, wins are not granted to their opponents.

    And who wants to win that way, anyway?

  11. bigjohn 10/29/2012 at 11:26 AM #

    Most of you are not buying out anybody and probably not buying many tickets. There were way more opportunities to win in this game and the players just couldn’t capitalize on them. The long reviewed first down fumble by the tight end and the bobbled catch that went to the Hole DB that gave them short fields and don’t forget the other 7 or so dropped passes.

    Anybody that watched that game and could not clearly see the quality of players that we had on the field that can compete with anybody. We clearly played better than at Maryland and against FSU.

    Carolina has some athletes (Potentially 66 academic exceptions on last year’s team and I don’t know how many on this one……go read the 10/1/12 letter from Butch Davis’ attorney to the N&O’s editor.) http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/01/2383762/jon-sasser-fewer-exceptions How will they keep them eligible for next year?

  12. mak4dpak 10/29/2012 at 7:30 PM #

    Listened to The Fan Radio, 99.9 Kept playing the unc radio cast of the Gio return, and said they had no problem with TOBs game plan. Who are they kiddin? Said FSU gave us the game where we beat them. Even though we held them scoreless in the second. So are these guys holes fans? Mark Thomas wasn’t a part of this.

  13. john of sparta 10/29/2012 at 10:08 PM #

    even my Dad gave up
    on radio last year.

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