ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

Noon Update:
Dan Wetzel explains some details (Yahoo!):

Even though the football team isn’t joining the ACC, that program is affected by the news as well.

The Irish will play five games every year against ACC opponents, the conference said. Notre Dame will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East, according to ESPN’s story. The school has to provide a 27-month notice, but West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to get out earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

The arrangement will obviously be unusual. Notre Dame will play close to a full ACC schedule – the full members of the conference play eight league games – but not be part of the league. Notre Dame could go 5-0 in games against regularly scheduled ACC foes but wouldn’t claim the conference championship, at least officially.

Like most things about realignment, it’s confusing.

ACC members will get less non-conference scheduling flexibility, but that’s probably not a bad tradeoff for those teams to get the occasional home game (and huge crowd) against Notre Dame. Notre Dame’s scheduling flexibility will also be affected a bit, but this year’s schedule already had an ACC flavor, with Miami, Boston College and Wake Forest on the slate, as well as future ACC member Pitt.

Also, the new arrangement with the ACC doesn’t affect Notre Dame’s television contract with NBC, the South Bend Tribune reports, which makes the ACC deal a pretty nice win for the Fighting Irish.

Also, tucked away in this news is the ACC’s revised $50 million exit fee, up from $20 million, which effectively solidifies the commitment of the current membership and ends any talk of ACC teams defecting the SEC (Orlando Sentinel):

One of the biggest items in Wednesday morning’s announcement from the Atlantic Coast Conference about a new partial membership agreement with Notre Dame had to do with an expanded exit fee.

According to the ACC’s announcement, school administrators serving on the ACC’s Council of Presidents upped the conference’s exit fee to $50 million. It now will take current member schools an additional $30 million to leave the conference for a new affiliation.

Updated 10:30AM:
ESPN reporting this is a done deal:

Notre Dame will join the Atlantic Coast Conference as a full member with the exception of football, but will play five football games annually against ACC teams.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” said Jack Swarbrick, Notre Dame vice president and director of athletics, in a statement released by the conference. “We are able to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.”

The ACC does not offer hockey, so it is presumed that Notre Dame will go through with its planned move to Hockey East in that sport.

The Irish will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East. The Big East currently requires members to provide 27 months notice to exit although West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to leave earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

Keep in mind, Dick Vitale was hinting all around this on Twitter last week.

Two questions that come immediately to mind:
1) How much influence will Notre Dame have in which ACC teams it schedules? Surely it will maintain its traditional rivalry with Boston College, but will the other slots be on a standard rotation among all 12 14 teams or will there be preferences for certain teams?

2) How will this affect Notre Dame’s BCS eligibility? Will they take an ACC slot as pseudo-champion?

Previous:
ESPN’s Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) just tweeted:

Notre Dame will join ACC as full member w/exception of football. ND will play 5 football games annually vs. ACC, sources told @ESPN

Notre Dame will join ACC as soon as it exits Big East. BE requires 27 months notice, but Irish could negotiate earlier exit

This is NOT a surprise to us. We’d heard multiple rumblings about Notre Dame joining the ACC, but that some ‘unique details’ were being worked out. So, we didn’t know if that was special scheduling issues related to non-revenue sports or if it was some kind of partial membership (that is clearly new territory for the Atlantic Coast Conference).

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95 Responses to ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

  1. BorntoHowl 09/12/2012 at 5:15 PM #

    “We are able to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.”

    A full fledged ACC member with 8 -10 wins gets bumped from a decent bowl by ND with 2 less wins or more when they waive the current rules. Then everyone underneath takes a lesser bowl after the domino effect. And football’s not even part of the deal. Sounds like Swoff’s taking care of us real well!

  2. LRM 09/12/2012 at 5:21 PM #

    “The #1 focus of the conference after this deal should be to GET OUT OF THE RAYCOM DEAL!”

    This makes no sense. Raycom is a distributor of games that otherwise wouldn’t be on TV. There’s only so much room on ESPN.

  3. wolfbuff 09/12/2012 at 5:21 PM #

    Does ND have the same $50M exit fee?

  4. john of sparta 09/12/2012 at 5:46 PM #

    does this make the ACC
    the *Bad Citizens* that
    Notre Dame needs?

  5. BureauOfMines 09/12/2012 at 5:53 PM #

    It doesn’t matter whether any of us like the expansion. It’s a done deal.

  6. the_phisherman 09/12/2012 at 6:58 PM #

    Adding Notre Dame helps the conference bowl situation. Remember that we used to have tied to the former Gator Bowl. Ever worry about the Former Peach Bowl jumping ship too?

  7. mak4dpak 09/12/2012 at 9:29 PM #

    I have no issue with Notre Dame entering the ACC, and sure it is better for them, than being an independent, or being in the weakening Big East. As for the football deal, if I am not mistaken they had the same football agreement in the Big East. I say, Welcome! May the conference benefit!

  8. 61Packer 09/12/2012 at 10:53 PM #

    I’ve heard that FSU and Clemson voted against this, and have also heard that FSU and Maryland were the ones who voted against this. Can anyone enlighten me here as to just who voted yea and who voted nay?

    I also heard that the vote was 11-3. If that’s so, then why were Syracuse and Pitt given a vote, since they’re not officially in this league yet?

    This whole fiasco, and that’s what it is to me, a fiasco- could conceivably cost us Florida State, given their rumblings a few months ago about wanting to look elsewhere. Don’t think for a minute that an exit fee will stop a big-time school with deep pockets from leaving if they want to go bad enough. If the Seminoles (or Tigers) do bolt, and I believe one day the SEC will add two final teams which could be FSU and Clemson, then we’ve made a huge blunder by giving up our top football program(s) for a school that won’t even participate in ACC football.

  9. Master 09/12/2012 at 11:11 PM #

    61 – are you saying that FSU and Clemson will bolt the conference because Notre Dame was added? If so, why?

  10. WilmyWolf 09/13/2012 at 1:20 AM #

    61-

    Vote was 12-0 to invite them, 10-2 to increase exit fees. FSU and UMd voted against it. Pitt and Cuse not given votes

  11. fullmoon1 09/13/2012 at 1:40 AM #

    SO I am hearing it’s good for ND but how is this good for the acc? Wow they have to play some acc teams, I still don’t see that as a huge benefit. What’s in it for us?

  12. Astral Rain 09/13/2012 at 4:33 AM #

    Guess to benefit for ACC:

    more money on the TV deal
    adding a good basketball school for basketball
    if ND loses its BCS special status, they’ll join the ACC (I think this will happen)- going to 16 is easy then.

    Yeah, the ACC is the weakest of the 5 BCS leagues, but ND isn’t going to go 5-0 vs the ACC without being a legit BCS team.

    I’d be ok with going to 16, splitting the conference into two halves of 8, then having a championship game between the two in all sports.

  13. EasternWakeWolf 09/13/2012 at 6:55 AM #

    At this point, Florida State does not have deep pockets – infact, they hardly have any pockets at all. With a $50M buyout, they’re not going anywhere anytime soon.

  14. triadwolf 09/13/2012 at 8:01 AM #

    I don’t know why some of you are concerned about the bowl situation. ND already had an agreement with the ACC as an OPPONENT in the Orange bowl and that has not changed.

    Notre Dame will not be taking an ACC spot in the bowls.

  15. Six Pack 09/13/2012 at 8:33 AM #

    This is certainly a rhetorical question,but…

    Why in the Hell was the press conference to announce this done at Kenan Stadium and not in Greensboro? Swofford sucks BALLS!!

  16. Wulfpack 09/13/2012 at 8:36 AM #

    “Why in the Hell was the press conference to announce this done at Kenan Stadium and not in Greensboro?”

    The Council of Presidents rotates and was in Chapel Hill this year. Nothing more.

  17. GAWolf 09/13/2012 at 12:32 PM #

    Let me just go on record to say that I totally disagree with this decision UNLESS there is a backroom understanding that Notre Dame will go to a full member as soon as their current television contract is over.

    Any idea how NC State administration voted? I heard we voted against it. Verify?

  18. WilmyWolf 09/13/2012 at 2:06 PM #

    GA, NC State admin voted in favor of both the addition of ND and the raising of the exit fee.

    Like I said before, the only “nay” votes were FSU and UMd against the exit fee (because FSU wants to be able to hold leaving over the ACC’s head, and UMd because $50m+ would permanently bankrupt them)

  19. oceanman 09/13/2012 at 11:32 PM #

    The Big East is in trouble… Last one out, turn out the lights!!

  20. oceanman 09/13/2012 at 11:56 PM #

    This will ignite some discussion but the school that should be in the ACC is West Virginia. With Pitt and Syracuse in now, old traditional rivalries with Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, and Virginia Tech could be restored. The Pitt WVU rivalry is a blood feud. The fan base is the entire state of WV, For them to go the the Bid 12 is a travesty. They would have added football and basketball excellence.

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