UNC downplayed tutor’s actions to the NCAA – Updated 9:33 pm

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UNC downplayed tutor’s actions to the NCAA:

“Please help,” the player wrote to the tutor. “I’m going down. 🙁 ”
The player attached a paper that was six double-spaced pages, according to the document. The tutor emailed back later with a note that the paper was now 8.5 pages, with only a little bit more to go.
“I looked over your paper,” she wrote, “and expanded it in a lot of areas!!!”

The university took the position, according to the documents, that it was difficult to tell what changes the tutor had made, saying there was “no direct information” that the tutor had made any changes based on emails it could retrieve. UNC suggested that formatting changes were the reason for the different lengths, and the player said that the tutor didn’t write any part of the paper. Wiley has been silent.

On the other UNC scandal, the NCAA is quiet

The NCAA and UNC-Chapel Hill spent countless hours investigating the improper cash, perks and tutoring football players received, eventually levying sanctions that cost the team a bowl opportunity and athletic scholarships.

But there’s little indication the NCAA is investigating another scandal that arguably paints a much darker picture: dozens of bogus classes largely attended by athletes that were offered by a longtime academic department chairman.

Simply amazing. We constantly hear how the NCAA has too much power and the rules are petty, but apparently you can have systematic fraud in the “education” of your student-athletes without risk of NCAA sanctions. Meanwhile, schools that actually make an effort to teach and make their athletes work run the risk of not being eligible for the post-season due to sub-standard Academic Progress Rates.

Does that make sense to anyone?

You can go to town on some analysis of today’s document release by clicking here.

First thing I see is a legal bill of approximately $67k.

WRAL online is now running a story about the records release.  One of the funnier passages:

In one email exchange, an unidentified student-athlete reaches out to a tutor saying, “Please help. I’m going down,” with a two-and-a-half page, single-spaced paper attached.

A response to the email shortly thereafter reads, “I looked over your paper, and expanded it in a lot of areas!!! You are now at 8 ½ pages!!!”

Hilarious.  You have to wonder how many of the extra pages were due to the tutor’s exclamation mark usage.

Additionally, please don’t ignore the news and discussion on Butch Davis’ 216 telephone that we’ve got running here.

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35 Responses to UNC downplayed tutor’s actions to the NCAA – Updated 9:33 pm

  1. WilmyWolf 07/11/2012 at 5:58 PM #

    I had no idea that J. Edgar Hoover was their SID

  2. GAWolf 07/11/2012 at 5:59 PM #

    MadLibs? I haven’t seen those things in years.

    Pages 180 and 200, just in a brief cursory glance to laugh at how much is removed from the “documents” are very interesting.

    I cannot wait to see what the PackPride sleuths come up with despite the instiution’s effort to cleanse them. There are still some very interesting things, such as the ones mentioned above.

  3. oceanman 07/11/2012 at 6:03 PM #

    When I read this stuff I feel like it is coming right out of the Nixon or Obama Whitehouse. Do they really think everyone is stupid and cannot detect an ellaborate coverup. For as long as I can rememebr, the democrats and their ilk have ruled the State of North Carolina with essentially no accountability. They did whatever they damned well pleased and nobody questioned. We lived under essentially what amounted to a legislative dictatorship. Seems like the same MO is in place in Chapel Hill. The public has got to demand accountability from UNC on this and demand it from the politicians in Raleigh. The Republican are in charge for now, a new sheriff is in town. Get the email addresses of your reps and write them and demand action.

  4. gumby 07/11/2012 at 6:12 PM #

    Oh please…as if a republican politician is any less crooked than a democratic politician…

  5. PackMan97 07/11/2012 at 6:24 PM #

    gumby, on a national level…true. However at the state level, the Democratic party is rotten to the core. Being in power for almost 130 uninterrupted years will do that to any organization.

    As for the PP sleuths…they already found one little tidbit. Apparently, UNC is claiming the

    “b. There are two more emails within this string.
    i. The first email in the string is the November 20, email indicated in
    #2 above from Student-Athlete to
    ii. The second email is from back to Student-Athlete with no
    indication of the date it was sent. The text of the email from
    states “I looked over your paper, and expanded it in a lot of areas!!! You
    are now at 8 ½ pages!!!”
    iii. also states that included attachments to two articles to assist
    Student-Athlete on one part of the paper.
    iv. also asks Student-Athlete where his citations are as a reminder
    that “you need to go through and cite” and gives an example of the
    necessary format.”
    4. Student-Athlete indicated during his interview that he believes he may have sent a
    single-spaced paper to and that note indicating that expanded it to 8 ½
    pages was perhaps due to formatting changes.
    a. Student-Athlete states that might have expanded ideas into text within
    the paper.
    i. Previously in the interview, Student-Athlete stated that “expand” would
    mean sending him notes, not actually writing the text of the paper. “

  6. fmack 07/11/2012 at 8:21 PM #

    Hey fellow Wolfpackers! Do me and the world a favor please keep your politics out of the discussion about sports. Why is it necessary for me to read about your political point of view when NCState is who and what we care about.
    You’re really starting to sound like the guy who wrote that garbage in the free expression tunnel about the president. Are you?
    Try this idea on for size, leave your feeble attempts at proving your way of thinking is RIGHT to your self. I want to read about my beloved WolfPack and not what you think about the politics of the Feds or the State.
    Since you seem to be articulate and very thoughtful I’m sure you can discuss athletics without discussing who you vote or voted for.
    You sound like the folks who think that GOD and country are synonymous and that you’re right because you say you are.
    WOW give it a rest until November will ya!
    Let’s go Pack!

  7. tjfoose1 07/11/2012 at 9:11 PM #

    ^ So you do exactly what you criticize others for doing, while you do the criticizing. brilliant.

    Wow, give it a rest until November, will ya.

    Btw, its Wolfpack, not WolfPack.

  8. timberwolf 07/11/2012 at 9:29 PM #

    The redactions are in white. Don’t know what was culled. I mean I get it, but seriously this would be 50-70% black. Can’t say otherwise.

  9. Wufpacker 07/11/2012 at 9:31 PM #

    “Student-Athlete indicated during his interview that he believes he may have sent a single-spaced paper…”

    Anyone else find that amusing?

  10. Old MacDonald 07/11/2012 at 9:43 PM #

    Seriously, what college student would compose a paper single-spaced? Did he think it had to be 10 pages single spaced? No wonder he thought he was “going down.”

    Regarding UNC-CH’s current position, the phrase “fucked 8 ways to Sunday” comes to mind.

  11. Pack78 07/11/2012 at 10:33 PM #

    Funny aside from this evening; watching a Frazier rerun from 1994 titled ‘The Candidate’ on Hallmark. Check out the synopsis:

    “Martin has made an election broadcast for Seattle mayor candidate, Holden Thorpe, much to Frasier and Niles’ disgust as they regard him as a dangerously right-wing man. This prompts Niles into action who suggests to Frasier that they get behind their choice for Mayor – Phil Patterson, Thorpe’s main rival. Frasier is at first reluctant as he fears that listeners maybe be alienated after finding out his political views but soon changes his mind after Thorpe calls in to his show and complains about Frasier’s negative attitude towards him.”

  12. choppack1 07/12/2012 at 12:15 AM #

    Yet nary a comment from the ncaa or swofford. How do you think Fsu, usc and tosu feel about this.

  13. MrPlywood 07/12/2012 at 1:33 AM #

    Evidently they are not very good at math over at UNX either. A 2.5 page single-spaced paper would only be a 5 page double-spaced paper. So, that still leaves 3.5 pages unaccounted for. What could it be… Font size? Double spaces after each period? I envision a separate course for athletes titles “Creative Paper Formatting”.

  14. Pack78 07/12/2012 at 2:41 AM #

    So unx redacts the crap out of the evidence and has the chutzpah to offer this horse$hit, self-serving interpretation for the masses. Would anybody with anything even approaching a triple-digit IQ buy ANYTHING that they spew?

  15. tuckerdorm1983 07/12/2012 at 5:58 AM #

    I just xxxxx to say that xxxxxx xxxxxxx and xxxxxx. UNC is xxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx and that is not xxxxxxxx. Redacting is xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx and provides integrity to the university. xxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx. In conclusion xxxxxx xxxxxxxx and our findings are consistent with this evidence. xxxxxx and xxxxxx will xxxxxx. Thank you again and go xxxx yourself.

  16. Greywolf 07/12/2012 at 6:31 AM #

    The alleged violations occurred via email. Student athlete certifies that he did not receive any help in study hall. That is supposed to mean something. Apparently Amy Hernan thought so.

    I’m not smart or patient enough to understand the legal bills but what is UNX paying for? I noticed billing for 12 hours on some days. Do attorneys take out breakfast, lunch or dinner time off? Maybe they are charging for thinking about the problem while in the shower or after they go to bed at night.

    If my ex-wife was their attorney, I would assume she was charging for time thinking about the problem once of twice a month while she was having sex with me.

  17. GAWolf 07/12/2012 at 6:44 AM #

    There is evidence in what is not redacted that a player lied in the first of two interviews saying he didn’t think a meeting with the tutor “counted.”.

    It’s pretty clear these guys were coached by UNC on what to say, but they weren’t smart enough, at least in some cases, to remember all of their mistruths.

    Yet the NCAA seemingly didnt care.

  18. Old MacDonald 07/12/2012 at 7:11 AM #

    ” If my ex-wife was their attorney, I would assume she was charging for time thinking about the problem once of twice a month while she was having sex with me.”

    But that would only account for 4 minutes.

  19. tuckerdorm1983 07/12/2012 at 7:13 AM #

    In my case it would be once or twice a year. That is sex and not thinking.

  20. packof81 07/12/2012 at 7:41 AM #

    One of the tarhole fan comments on the WRAL site is saying we should worry about the stink in our own backyard when our president quit a couple years back. Good lord …

  21. tuckerdorm1983 07/12/2012 at 8:32 AM #

    OFFICIAL UNC DOCUMENT

    xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx and xxxxxx xxxx because xxxxxx. There are xxxxx and xxxx due to the nature of the situation xxxxxx occurred. xxxxxxx xxxxxx played football at xxx from xxxx until xxxx. xxxxxx xxxxxxx did assist said player xxxxxxx on a paper in xxxxxx whose class was not Julius Nxxxxxxx. Our program has the highest level of integrity and xxxxx xxxxxx and xxxxx xxxxxx did nothing wrong except for McAdoo who is now suing us may he rot in xxxx. That is all. We are more than happy to release this information. Now everybody can go xxxx themselves.

    xxxxxxxx Twerp
    xxxxxxxx Bad doer
    xxxxxx xxxxxxxx

  22. projectwentynine 07/12/2012 at 8:36 AM #

    “It’s pretty clear these guys were coached by UNC on what to say, but they weren’t smart enough, at least in some cases, to remember all of their mistruths.”

    Exactly.

    As an aside, I would like to personally bring charges against Thorp for being a full grown man who drives a Miata.

  23. Rochester 07/12/2012 at 9:10 AM #

    Whatev. It’s not like they rested their starting players or something horrific like that. Move along.

    “I’m highly disappointed in the decision Florida State made and the integrity of our championship should never be compromised. It’s important that the value of sportsmanship and leadership continue to be paramount in this league.” — Johnny Swoff, Nov. 2010

  24. Pack Mentality 07/12/2012 at 9:19 AM #

    Once the lawyers heard that Professor Zulu and Butch Davis were still being payed exorbitantly I would hope that they saw this as a perfect opportunity to increase their hourly rates. These lawyers should charge 12 hour days 7 days a week for the entire legal team for the next 3 or 4 years or however long this drags out. If they are paying off those that can hurt them, I’d look at it and say they damn well better pay me if I’m trying to help them.

  25. projectwentynine 07/12/2012 at 9:38 AM #

    To be fair, I’m pretty sure they paid Nyang’oro in sea shells.

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