ESPN: ACC Summer Shootaround

ESPN ran their annual summer basketball features this week that are just a little more than the one-sentence-type-stuff the media usually generates.

You can click here for their ‘Summer Shootaround’. What is the conference’s #1 offseason storyline?

1. Expectations at NC State: The last time the ACC media picked the Wolfpack to finish first in the league standings was 1988-89. But after a run to the Sweet 16 last March, forward C.J. Leslie’s decision to return for another season, the arrival of a heralded recruiting class and so many departures from the other top conference teams, expect Mark Gottfried’s club to top the ballots come fall. Point guard Lorenzo Brown needed knee surgery late last month, but is expected to practice before NCSU leaves for an August trip to Spain.

Boy, what a difference a coach makes?

The Wolfpack’s ‘scenarios’ play out as follows:

Best-case scenario: The best-case scenario for this team is, quite simply, the kind of season NC State fans have been desperate for for a decade, if not longer. Sure, the Wolfpack were uninspiring for much of 2011-12, but they turned it on in time to get to the NCAA tournament and didn’t waste their opportunity to impress once there. Now, with that bit of business behind them, talented forward C.J. Leslie returns with the most versatile and honed mid-post games in the country. Mark Gottfried’s class of top-10 positional talents shows up ready to contribute on day one; Rodney Purvis steps into a starring role right away, T.J. Warren adds creativity and size on the wing, and Tyler Lewis provides junior point guard (and undisputed team leader) Lorenzo Brown with a more than capable replacement off the bench. And don’t forget Scott Wood, one of the country’s deadliest shooters. If it all comes together as expected, NC State won’t just be the favorite to win the ACC title. They’ll have a deep tournament run well within their sights.

Hungry for a decade? How about ‘more than two decades’?

One thing I find interesting is that they are saying we have a “tournament run well within (our) sights”. Because, in UNC’s best-case scenario it is clearly stated that the Tar Heels can make the Final Four. So, we have two programs that are projected to battle for the top spot in the ACC. The exact same article proclaims that NC State will be chosen to be the top team in the ACC. But, the ‘top team’ in the ACC is expected to go deep into the tournament while the team picked behind the top team is projected to specifically go as far as the Final Four?

Please note – I am not complaining about any kind of BIAS here. Just pointing out an inconsistency that could indicate poorly executed work. I’m sorry, but I like rational thought and consistency.

Worst-case scenario: Leslie has been a mercurial player throughout his two-year career, and if his attitude and productivity don’t remain consistent, it will be hard for the Wolfpack to be truly elite. Likewise, any optimistic projection relies on unproven freshmen, particularly Purvis, as well as on the hope that Brown feels no lingering effects from an offseason injury. There is a lot of boom here, but there is also the potential for bust — a 24-win-ish season that simultaneously marks a major improvement for the program while also proving somewhat of a disappointment. We’ll see.

Is it just the ‘NC State fan’ in me? But, I see a ‘worst-case scenario’ much worse than this. All it takes is one injury.

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21 Responses to ESPN: ACC Summer Shootaround

  1. MattN 07/19/2012 at 8:04 AM #

    An injury to one of our key players and we are, at best, a “last 4 in” team. Everything has to go our way…

  2. Lumpy 07/19/2012 at 9:29 AM #

    Seriously. Until I see everyone suited up, healthy, and academically qualified I will be cautious.I know that this team has more talent than other teams that were expected to “finally turn the corner”, but usually whenever every is talking about the lofty expectations of an NC State team, that’s when the bottom drops out.

    Having said that, if everyone stays healthy and the team continues where it left off, this is gonna be the season we’ve been waiting 20 years for.

  3. 1.21 Jigawatts 07/19/2012 at 9:35 AM #

    All I’ve seen from the local media is the fawning over Dook. They media will pick Dook to finish first. State will come in 2nd and honestly that’s just fine with me. It’s only a preseason prediction. I think we need to build a culture of winning first before having the big target on our back. Let’s play with a chip on our shoulders and finish first, then win the tournament.

  4. travelwolf 07/19/2012 at 9:36 AM #

    IMHO, we are currently building up too many expectations. I believe that ESPN is underestimating the talent that Carolina and Duke have (which is at least as good as we have – probably better) – and also, that those 2 programs have some of the best coaches in the country. At the end of the year, Mark will have the team running on all cylinders, and we’ll probably go far in the NCAA Tournament. But, we’ll have bumps along the way – and loses to several good ACC schools. Freshman are almost never a big help at the beginning of the year – but good freshman can help you a lot at the end of the year.

  5. ryebread 07/19/2012 at 9:36 AM #

    I noticed that same discrepancy. At the same time, I felt like it was fair. Our program — it’s players, coaches and support staff — need to learn how to go far in the tournament. None of them have made the Final Four in their current roles.

    Biased reporting or not, Roy and crew have won the title twice and made the Final Four other times. It’s believable that they could feasibly do it again as a stretch goal.

    As much as I love NC State, we’re a trendy pick right now. Last year at this time, UNC was a lock to win the ACC and a prohibitive favorite to win the whole thing. By the end of the year, they were the walking wounded and went only as far as the officials (ACC tournament) and some breaks in opponents (NCAA tournament) could carry them.

    While there’s no reason to think we can’t win the conference, I’m not sure I’d put us as the favorites. Unless the officiating changes evening the playing field, pencil Duke or UNC as your regular season ACC champion.

  6. PackerInRussia 07/19/2012 at 9:45 AM #

    “Biased reporting or not, Roy and crew have won the title twice* and made the Final Four* other times.”

    FIFY

  7. primacyone 07/19/2012 at 9:51 AM #

    Could go either way.

    I do know this:

    1) We had Duke down by 20 last year before the team figured out what they were doing and still lacked confidence. We could be freaking awesome this year since we will have confidence.

    2) Foul on Richard Howell – Sir Rich has got to stay out of Foul Trouble. We will miss Painter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BxOU2iBRew&feature=related

  8. Greywolf 07/19/2012 at 11:01 AM #

    “Hungry for a decade? How about ‘more than two decades’?”

    SFN knows the “score.”

    One score and nine years ago we won our last National Champioship…

  9. packalum44 07/19/2012 at 11:21 AM #

    Jay Bilas mentions a Final 4 run in his “inside” analysis and ranks us pre-season #1 in the ACC.

    A “deep” run means at least an Elite 8 and doesn’t exclude a Final 4/2/1.

    Also, I agree that we will miss Painter, especially offensively. But we have an upgrade defensively coming with the Aussie back. Remember his defensive prowess 2 years against the Blue’s bigs, simply b/c he is as tall or taller than them.

    Painter was 6’8″ish with a relatively thin frame (e.g. compared to Richard). He had trouble defending the 2 giants of Kansas and UNC. Richard has a tough time too b/c he’s 6’7ish but the dude can rebound and has a wide body, mitigates his height deficiency.

    When Rich plays with the determination and heart he did the last month of last season, he’s unstoppable, but perhaps more importantly, the rest of our team feeds off that.

    We are only marginally more talented than UNC/Duke, but we have intangibles of a cohesive team, a great coach and heart. Nobody in the country played with more heart than us during the latter part of last year. Nobody.

  10. Prowling Woofie 07/19/2012 at 11:57 AM #

    Howell needs to tune out the refs completely. Stop glaring, stop pouting, stop looking for the call. Just play hard and hustle up and down the court on every possession.

    Let Gottfried battle the officials, if necessary. That’s his job…

  11. Rick 07/19/2012 at 12:46 PM #

    I have a pretty good feeling about the coming year. We have a very good 8-9 deep team. Any injury will be bad but the same can be said about any team.

    We have a good mix of experience and raw talent. Combine that with good coaching and watch out.

  12. Lunatic Fringe 07/19/2012 at 2:10 PM #

    Hungry for a decade? How about ‘more than two decades’?

    My thoughts on Herb Sendek basketball satisfying my “hunger”…

    “Well you can live on it, but it tastes like sh!t”

  13. Wulfpack 07/19/2012 at 2:14 PM #

    I think the coverage has been very fair. We are getting a lot of run and most project us to have a great year. Duke will be very good but I think we are right there with them, if not better. UNC, IMHO, will have to work to make the tourney. I just do not see what others see in them. They lost an awful lot. I know they return some solid players and recruited well (as always), but they are totally unproven.

  14. backnine 07/19/2012 at 2:22 PM #

    Hopefully its nothing, but I don’t like the lingering uncertainty around TJ Warren’s delayed entry into school. These things normally go against us (Brown, Tramain Hall, etc.). Will just feel so much better to hear that he’s been granted entry. His depth will be sorely needed by this team.

  15. redcanine 07/19/2012 at 4:19 PM #

    So there’s a problem with TJ? First I’ve heard of it. Damn.

    I agree that Rich doesn’t need to eyeball the refs after every call against him. It makes him look crazy as hell.

  16. 61Packer 07/19/2012 at 4:20 PM #

    We’ve got better talent and more of it, but the difference is that we finally have a coach who seems to know what to do with what he’s got.

    I’m not expecting anything better than the Regional, which itself is no guarantee, but I do expect that we’ll be a tough out as long as we’ve got Coaches Gottfried and Lutz on the bench and AD Yow backing them up.

    Looking forward to basketball season!

  17. PoppaJohn 07/19/2012 at 4:37 PM #

    Guys, I suspect this is going to be like last year. The early season will simultaneously excite and scare us. Once we hit the season, we’ll drop a few we shouldn’t, but take some strong wins too. We’ll finish the season strong, but won’t be mentally tough enough to win the ACCT. We’ll have enough wins to get in the NCAAT and make a nice run. I predict a very nice year, but not legendary. But I’ll be okay with that.

    And you just KNOW someone will get hurt. And honestly, the only person we can afford to get hurt is sitting out the season anyway.

    I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL BASKETBALL SEASON. EVERYTHING ELSE IS FILLER.

  18. tuckerdorm1983 07/19/2012 at 7:15 PM #

    “Making predictions is very hard, especially when they deal with things in the future”. Yogi Berra

    Think on that for a bit.

    I mean we could make too many wrong mistakes.

  19. runwiththepack 07/19/2012 at 8:09 PM #

    The good thing about freshmen is that they are almost sophomores by the end of the season.

    I look for us to look a little bland early in the season, thus losing some of this attention that we’re not accustomed to getting anyway – and then finishing strong.

    It could all play out real well in the end, which is all that really matters anyway.

  20. Master 07/19/2012 at 11:22 PM #

    If you take all the contingencies out of the equation, we probably do have the best team in the conference and that alone should place us high in the top 10. The contingencies are there for all teams – injuries, freshmen maturing and a decent amount of good fortune – not just the Wolfpack. I think we will have a very exciting team with great athletes, shooters and playmakers. We will beat UNC and Duke this season – perhaps even on their courts. I fully expect us to dominate a lot of teams this year that used to play us close. We are that good.

  21. Wufpacker 07/19/2012 at 11:36 PM #

    Agree about the likelihood of early season issues and am hoping the Spain trip will help accelerate that learning curve a bit.

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