Rogueapalooza By The Numbers

With the latest shenanigans out of Chapel Hill coming to light as of late, SFN has been on top of things with articles on the “Carolina Way” becoming a joke, the chair of the UNC BOT, the flagship wants a refund and the original Rogueapalooza article.

Also of related interest to this article is the excellent work done in the Roy, 3 percent and Swahili entry.

The N&O has a PDF with a list of the 9 aberrant (no faculty member supervised or graded work) and the 45 irregular (faculty member had limited contact with students) courses in the African and Afro-American studies department. You can read the full explanations and definitions of aberrant and irregular in this document from UNC.

Aberrant Courses
In these 9 courses (and the term student-athlete is being used quite loosely):

8 of those courses had an enrollment of at least 50% student-athletes.
7 had an enrollment of at least 60% student-athletes.
6 had an enrollment of at least 70% student-athletes.
4 had an enrollment of at least 80% student-athletes.
2 had an enrollment of 100% student-athletes.

In the first summer school session of 2008, only one student was enrolled in the course SWAH402. That lone student was a UNC men’s basketball player.

In the second summer school session of 2007, all 6 of the students enrolled in the course SWAH403 were student-athletes, half of which were football players.

Other than the one course where the only student was a non student-athlete, there were no classes where the non student-athletes (the vast majority of students on campus) outnumbered the student-athletes.

Wikipedia lists the student population at UNC as 29,390 and the undergraduate population as 18,579. Going through the current rosters of all the sports at UNC there are approximately 700 student-athletes (some may be walkons or not on a full scholarship but let’s just assume if you’re on a team, you’re a student athlete).

For a quick and dirty analysis, that means student-athletes make up around 2.4% of the student body and 3.8% of the undergrads. The non-athlete to athlete ratio is 41 to 1 overall and 25.5 to 1 as undergrads.

In these nine courses the ratio goes in the opposite direction, there are 3.2 student athletes for every non-student athlete.

In these nine aberrant courses, there were a total 59 students enrolled. 45 of those students were athletes (76.3%). 32 were football players (54.2%). 7 were basketball players (11.9%).

The percentage of student-athletes in these nine courses (76.3%) is 32 times higher that the percentage of student-athletes in the overall student body (2.4%) and 20 times higher that the percentage for undergraduates (3.8%). For football players (54.2%) it is 23 times higher overall and 14 times higher for undergrads. For basketball players (11.9%) it is 5 times higher overall and 3 times higher for undergrads.

Irregular Courses
In these 45 courses:

32 of those courses had an enrollment of at least 50% student-athletes.
19 had an enrollment of at least 60% student-athletes.
14 had an enrollment of at least 70% student-athletes.
9 had an enrollment of at least 80% student-athletes.
3 had an enrollment of at least 90% student-athletes.
2 had an enrollment of 100% student-athletes.

The class mentioned above where the lone student was a UNC men’s basketball player was not a one time occurrence. In the second summer session of 2007, one student was enrolled in AFAM 269. Again, that one student was a UNC men’s basketball player.

In the first summer school session of 2008, all 5 of the students enrolled in the course AFAM 398 were student-athletes, 4 of which were football players and the other a men’s basketball player.

Then there is also the infamous AFAM280 course in the second summer session of 2011 with an enrollment of 18 football players and 1 former player. You can read more about this class in this article from the N&O.

Out of these 45 classes there were only 13 classes where the non student-athletes outnumbered the student-athletes. Only 6 of these 45 classes had no student-athletes enrolled.

As mentioned in the previous section, student-athletes make up around 2.4% of the student body and 3.8% of the undergrads. The non-athlete to athlete ratio is 41 to 1 overall and 25.5 to 1 as undergrads.

In these 45 irregular courses the ratio again goes in the opposite direction, there are 1.3 student athletes for every non-student athlete.

In these 45 irregular courses, there were a total 627 students enrolled. 353 of those students were athletes (56.3%). 214 were football players (34.1%). 16 were basketball players (2.6%).

The percentage of student-athletes in these 45 courses (56.3%) is 23 times higher that the percentage of student-athletes in the overall student body (2.4%) and 15 times higher that the percentage for undergraduates (3.8%). For football players (34.1%) it is 14 times higher overall and 9 times higher for undergrads. For basketball players (2.6%) it is slightly higher overall and actually lower for undergrads.

Conclusions
It’s completely obvious that the enrollment in these fraudulent courses is nowhere near representative of the student body overall or at the undergrad level.

Tom Ross, the UNC system president was quoted as saying “I believe that this was an isolated situation and that the campus has taken appropriate steps to correct problems and put additional safeguards in place.”

How isolated is it to have such a high concentration of student-athletes in these suspect courses? Maybe if you define isolated as these courses were isolated for student-athletes to take.

And the “appropriate steps to correct problems” were obviously not taken when this was still going on in the summer of 2011.

At least Ross finally created a review panel from the BOG.

Even Dick Baddour agrees with me, from WRAL: “What I am concerned about is when last summer, you see that sort of concentration within a course, not a major, but a course, when our antenna should have been up.”

Roy Williams chimed in as well saying “Am I worried about it? I’m worried about it from a university issue, but not from a basketball issue.” In a just world Roy would be really, really worried right about now.

UNC-CH Chancellor Holden Thorp was quoted as saying ““We’ve done a very thorough investigation on the academic side.” I’m skeptical they’ve done anything as thorough as what I just did in a couple of hours work. And if they did, they still concluded everything is fine, move along, nothing to see here. Thorp seems more concerned about getting a refund from Nyang’oro than with the complete academic disaster right in front of his face.

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46 Responses to Rogueapalooza By The Numbers

  1. Daily Update 06/15/2012 at 10:05 AM #

    If this doesn’t define lack of institutional control, then what does?

    Baddour’s statement about the 2011 class even admits lack of institutional control.

  2. Pack Mentality 06/15/2012 at 10:29 AM #

    Basketball players make up .06% of the undergrad population. 11.9% is 198 times greater than this.

  3. Pack Mentality 06/15/2012 at 10:33 AM #

    Similar math can be done for the football team. This would make your percentages more damning for both football and basketball. As opposed to using all student athletes, just look at the football team’s population to overall population.

  4. mak4dpak 06/15/2012 at 10:38 AM #

    Who is surprised by all this UNX scandal? Not me!

  5. sequoyah 06/15/2012 at 10:50 AM #

    Minor point in the scheme of things, but I love how that linked report is a typical UNX lame ass attempt at damage control – no logos, letterhead, or institutional identification of any sort on the title page. That’s not an accident – even the most mundane memos at large entities go out with blazing institutional/departmental glorification.

    It’s all about protecting the brand.

  6. Daily Update 06/15/2012 at 10:52 AM #

    mak4dpak: It is the summer. The off-season. A dead period for college sports.

    The UNC-Rogue story is the biggest athletic/academic scandal in the history of the ACC. We would be doing the readers of Statefansnation a disservice by not focusing on the biggest off-season story going on right now.

  7. Paramarine 06/15/2012 at 10:59 AM #

    Time to re-post the call for an independent investigation article with the updated findings.

  8. JEOH2 06/15/2012 at 11:07 AM #

    There are a ton of you who may not agree with me but, I hate what this does for the perception of Afro-American Studies on a national level…

    Already considered a joke by some, impractical by others, it’s a degree program that has a ton of value at some universities (but not the flagship)…this could have a ripple effect all the way down to secondary schools and their curricula…

  9. LRM 06/15/2012 at 11:11 AM #

    Guys like Dan Wetzel and Charles Robinson could do wonders with this.

  10. mak4dpak 06/15/2012 at 11:24 AM #

    Go Pack! Keep our programs clean, so we are not caught in a scandal!

  11. Pack Mentality 06/15/2012 at 11:59 AM #

    JEOH2, I definitely agree with you. It is making the whole concept of that major being nothing but a bs curriculum just for athletes. This of course is not true, except for UNC. But many people only hear of this major because of this scandal and this hurts this line of study in many people’s eyes.

  12. WolftownVA81 06/15/2012 at 12:17 PM #

    ^ You’d of thought professor Swahili would have considered this possible outcome before he sold his soul to the FB and BB gods.

  13. Pack78 06/15/2012 at 12:30 PM #

    This is the Michael Gerson quote of ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations’ in action…

  14. VaWolf82 06/15/2012 at 12:32 PM #

    I hate what this does for the perception of Afro-American Studies on a national level…[snip] it’s a degree program that has a ton of value at some universities

    Why does this “degree” have more “value” than art history, et al? In my view, a degree without significant employment opportunities is a waste of state funds and student’s time/money.

  15. old13 06/15/2012 at 12:48 PM #

    VaWolf82, I think you’re discounting the value of the arts, history, archeology, anthropology, and other “non-employment oriented” majors in our culture, not to be confused with the Hollywood money-at-all-costs machines, etc. or the UNC-CHeat keep-athletes-eligible type courses. Granted that employment in those areas is not as easy to find as, say, engineering or business administration. But there is still value in the culture to preserve knowledge and conduct valid research in these other areas. I think they are needed to keep a balance.

  16. JEOH2 06/15/2012 at 12:51 PM #

    it isn’t terribly different than art history (except there are way more opportunities of employment, especially at the university level with Afro-American studies)

    when I speak of “value” I am speaking of what issupposed to be learned and how those lessons can be applied in everyday life…we just have different views on the “value” of a degree…not to say I don’t agree that employement opportunities is the overwhelming #1 in judging a degree program

  17. WuffDad 06/15/2012 at 1:39 PM #

    I think a missing piece of the numbers is how many of these “student”-athletes taking the courses in question are black (I suspect close to 100% take away Hansborogh), compared to how many of the general student population who are black took these courses.

    The point is the general non-black student population is not very likely to be interested in these courses which will skew your comparison.

  18. ncsu05mit10 06/15/2012 at 1:44 PM #

    You know what would be really helpful with all this? A visual tree and timeline of all the events, who is involved, how they are connected, graphic for the course data, etc.

    There’s so much information pouring out right now and it’s hard to connect the dots and dates, but I’m sure it could be done. Then in one image, it can become very clear that this isn’t case of “rogues” acting on their own, but instead will imply the systematic way which it has been going on… for years.

  19. VaWolf82 06/15/2012 at 2:06 PM #

    VaWolf82, I think you’re discounting the value of the arts, history, archeology, anthropology, and other “non-employment oriented” majors in our culture

    Your net was cast wider than I intended…but yes, I do think that there are a large number of worthless degrees and SOME of those become eligibility majors for athletes. For example, I have nothing against a PE degree as long as a graduate (athlete or other) in that degree is qualified to teach in middle/high school and maybe coach as well. Art history….well you’ve pretty much nailed what I think about that.

  20. Hungwolf 06/15/2012 at 2:14 PM #

    No doubt UNC-CHeat has paraded its African Cultural Center and African Studies Courses as a focal point and recruiting tool towards black athletes. The real shame is instead really providing something of value to its minority student poplulation and their heritage, they turned it into a center of academic fraud to keep athletes eligible. The black community, black students in general, and black athletes should really be pissed about this. I am not a minority but if I were a black recruit and player, no way would I play for UNC and if I did I would transfer. They betrayed all blacks by their actions and fraud. There is some real value in heritage and UNC frankly showed it does not give damn about the blacks and their heritage.

  21. Old MacDonald 06/15/2012 at 2:39 PM #

    Education for its own sake is not a bad thing. I know it is popular, particularly among State people, for those with engineering degrees to dump on liberal arts degrees as worthless. IMO, college should not be looked at or treated like a trade school. It is a legitimate thing to get a History degree even though it does not lead directly into a job. A college education should be more than the equivalent of a welding certificate (not that there is anything wrong with that either). I guess it comes down to your philosophy of education. People with liberal arts backgrounds can go on to be very successful in other fields because of that background. I got a degree in English at State and it has turned out to be pretty valuable. As an aside, had I turned in a paper like McAdoo’s in an NCSU English class, my ass would have been thrown out of school before the prof. got to the end of the first page.

  22. lawful 06/15/2012 at 3:46 PM #

    Bye bye, Holden….one way or another…

  23. Hungwolf 06/15/2012 at 3:58 PM #

    Agree with “lawful” I don’t see Thorpe surviving this and am I the only one that has noticed Larry “Full of Bull” Fedora’s recruiting seems to have stalled? He got to be steaming thinking this thing was said and done when hired and now it has taken on a whole new dimension. Plus isn’t great to notice with all the talk of conference raiding, I have yet to see anyone mention being interested in UNC-CHeat!

  24. tuckerdorm1983 06/15/2012 at 4:09 PM #

    The drums are beating and they are getting together a cabal of anti-thorpers. It is a matter of time until he steps down. He may announce sooner than later than he has decided to focus upon his research and spend more time with his family. I always wondered why they made a chemistry professor from within the school the chancellor. He has been naive and let Butch and Dicky Bad-doer blow smoke up his arse. Until they completely clean house can they move on.

  25. Pack Mentality 06/15/2012 at 4:33 PM #

    I don’t think he’s naive. I think he is just doing things the way they have always done and he sees nothing wrong with not giving thug athletes a real education. This is business as usual to him. I’m sure he has levels below him actually dealing with this stuff though so just like Butch Davis with Black Santa, he can claim ignorance. But as we all know, that doesn’t matter.

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