Monday Musings

March 5, 2012

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AkulaWolf (BackingThePack.com)
NC State Clinches No. 5 Seed In ACC Tournament With 70-58 Win Over Virginia Tech

NC State took care of business in Blacksburg on Sunday night and delivered a 70-58 win to secure the No. 5 seed in next weekend’s ACC tournament. That means the Wolfpack will open the conference tournament at 2:00 p.m. ET on Thursday against Boston College. So set your DVRs…I mean, set your illnesses to Thursday afternoon. I can tell already that you aren’t looking so good. Is that a cough?

GoPack.com
NC State Tops Virginia Tech, 70-58

GoPack.com
NC State vs Virginia Tech Box Score

JP GIGLIO (N&O)
N.C. State wins, states case to NCAA

JP GIGLIO (N&O)
Observations from Pack vs Hokies

ANDREW CARTER (N&O)
How the ACC season played out

WRALSportsfan.com
North Carolina State defeats Virginia Tech 70-58

Early March is the time of year when a lot of coaches are lobbying for their teams to receive a bid to the NCAA Tournament.

North Carolina State coach Mark Gottfried made a pretty good case for his bunch on Sunday night.

Scott Wood scored 19 points to lead the Wolfpack past Virginia Tech 70-58, as N.C. State secured a winning mark in ACC play for the first time since 2005-06.

N.C. State (20-11, 9-7 Atlantic Coast Conference), which snapped a four-game skid to the Hokies and won 20 games in the regular season for the first time since 2005-06, also got 18 points from C.J. Leslie.

The Wolfpack clinched the No. 5 seed in the ACC tournament Thursday in Atlanta, where they will play No. 12 seed Boston College at 2:30 p.m.

“Every coach stands on their soapbox,” Gottfried said. “I hope we’re in the discussion, and if you look at what we did in the non-conference and who we played, our non-conference strength of schedule is as high as it is . we’ve done what the committee asks you to do. No question.

“We’ve got a lot going in our favor. Now we’ve got to go to Atlanta and keep putting ourselves in a better position. That’s what we need to do. That’s the plan for our team.”

Niemo (TechHoops.com)
Recap | nc state (9-7) 70, VT (4-12) 58

Well, you didn’t have to sit through another Hokie heartbreaker Sunday night, because Tech played with no heart in their regular season finale. 12 of Tech’s previous 15 ACC games had been decided by 4 points or less or in OT (and that’s not counting the 2-point loss to byu. VT was just 4-9 in those games including byu. The students weren’t around Sunday night (Spring Break), and I’m not sure the Hokie players weren’t also somewhere warmer. This game was over by the 7-minute mark when state went up 58-47. The Hokies dropped their 2nd straight Senior Night, falling to the nc state wolfpack 70-58. BOXSCORE
The pack used two big runs to fuel their win, a 16-2 run in the first half to go up 21-12, and an 11-0 run in the 2nd half to bury the Hokies, going ahead 62-49 with 5 minutes left. Tech went scoreless for almost 6 minutes during that stretch (stop the presses).

Chris Coleman (TechSideline.com)
Hokies Beaten Easily by NC State

Virginia Tech was beaten in every phase of the game by NC State on Sunday, falling 70-58 in Blacksburg. Tech finished the regular season 15-16, with a 4-12 mark in the ACC. NC State is 20-11 overall, and they have a 9-7 record in league play.

Cadarian Raines finished with 15 points, 5 rebounds and two steals, while Dorian Finney-Smith had 14 points and eight rebounds. Erick Green had 12 points for the Hokies, but most of them came late when the game was already decided. He scored Tech’s final six points of the game, but the Wolfpack already had a big lead before the short burst.

NC State shot 51.1% from the field. It was the third time in the last five games that an opponent has shot more than 50% against the Hokies. Virginia Tech shot just 36.7% from the field, only 25% from three-point range and only 50% from the free throw line. Even the normally reliable Dorenzo Hudson was just 1-of-4 from the charity stripe on his Senior Night.

Sean Fairholm (TechnicianOnline.com)
The Valvano you don’t remember

“Look at all those banners. You know what I’m going to do? I’m going to get a banner for the last two seasons that says, “National Champions.” Then at the bottom I’ll put ‘almost.'” – Jim Valvano after walking into the Dean Smith Center and noticing banners for participating in the NIT and tying for an ACC regular season championship

“All I ever wanted to do was cut the nets down, win a National Championship. When I did clinics at summer camps, at the end I would make the kids pick me up on their shoulders so I could cut down the nets. Then I won the National Championship when I was thirty-seven years old. All of a sudden I had done coaching. Maybe I could win it again, but it would never feel the way it felt that first time. It couldn’t.” – Jim Valvano

“Be a dreamer. If you don’t know how to dream, you’re dead.” – Jim Valvano

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Brett Friedlander (starnewsonline.com)
Brett’s All-ACC and major awards ballot

COACH OF THE YEAR: Mark Gottfried, N.C. State

I know I’m going to get a lot of flack for this pick. But when you consider what he has done this season – not only on the court in the form of wins and losses, but in changing the culture of a program that has been in the doldrums for the better part of two decades – Gottfried deserves the recognition. With Sunday’s win at Virginia Tech, the Wolfpack finished the regular season with 20 wins overall, a 9-7 record in the ACC and five (that’s FIVE) road wins in the league. And he did it with the same players that went 15-16 (5-11) under Sidney Lowe last year. Yes, Mike Krzyzewski did a great job of getting a less-than-classic Duke team to the last game of the regular season with a chance to win the league championship, and had the Blue Devils pulled it off Saturday. Gottfried’s team, on the other hand, battled back from a potentially disastrous four-game losing streak to finish strong and stay in contention for an NCAA tournament bid. Considering it’s the Wolfpack, that’s saying something.

Bret Strelow (FayObserver.com)
Bret Strelow’s ballot for the All-ACC teams and individual awards, with recognition for Tyler Zeller, Austin Rivers, Jontel Evans and Coach K

Jim Young (ACCSports.com)
My 2012 All-ACC Ballot

I felt pretty good about this team. As you can imagine, Snaer and Barnes were easy choices. Terrell Stoglin’s prolific scoring earned him a spot here. Erick Green meant so much to Virginia Tech in so many ways and produced almost every single game – he had 30 consecutive games of double-digit scoring until Clemson held him to eight points last week.

And I had no problems putting Calvin Leslie on the second team. You’ll find him in the top 10 in the ACC in scoring (9th), rebounding (9th), field goal percentage (3rd), and blocked shots (5th). Plus, Leslie really turned it on his last five games (20.4 ppg, 10.2 rpg). I always like to see that from my All-ACC candidates.

To me the All-ACC second team was pretty representative of the league. This year it had a lot of guys I really liked, but not a lot of guys I looooved. Other than Zeller and Scott, there weren’t any players that gave off an All-American aura. But there were plenty of good players. Which meant that guy like Kenny Kadji unfortunately got bumped down to the …

Barry Jacobs (ACCSports.com)
Not So Down On The ACC

Fans became part of the story at N.C. State too.

Long convinced they are the objects of game officials’ discrimination, Wolfpackers were exercised to see three starters foul out down the stretch at Durham.

In N.C. State’s next game, lead official Karl Hess tossed a pair of hecklers at the RBC Center. They turned out to be N.C. State greats Chris Corchiani and Tom Gugliotta. Debbie Yow, the school’s athletic director, made a public show of demanding satisfaction from the ACC, mimicking the tactics of former Clemson coach Rick Barnes, who endeared himself to a new fan base by challenging UNC coach Dean Smith in the mid-1990s.

Hess was properly reprimanded for failing to follow protocol. Less properly, he was removed from a subsequent game at Raleigh in an unsavory capitulation to Yow’s yowling.

Meanwhile Wolfpack coach Mark Gottfried was caught via cellphone camera knocking the ACC’s reprimand of Hess as “weak,” claiming it was more important for the league to protect former players than current game officials.

And here N.C. State fans thought they weren’t popular with referees before.

Stephen Schramm (FayObserver.com)
Preview of the ACC tournament

Seed: 5

Best-case scenario: Let’s say that N.C. State gets past Boston College and Virginia. How sweet would it be for Wolfpack fans to see their team upset North Carolina on Saturday? Not only would it put N.C. State in the title game, it would likely be too much for the selection committee to ignore.

Worst-case scenario: If N.C. State somehow drops Thursday’s game against Boston College, any chance at an NCAA tournament berth vanishes, and the Wolfpack would head into the NIT on an incredibly sour note.

Niemo (TechHoops.com)
ACC Regular Season Review

nc state is on the rise. They bring in a stud recruiting class next year. If C.J. Leslie stays, they’ll be a challenger for 3rd place next year. The key is Leslie, otherwise, they’ll be too young. See, they got rid of Lowe and did 3 games better than he ever did in Gottfried’s first year.

Jerry Palm (CBSSports.com)
Predicting the Field for the 2012 men’s NCAA tournament

It was an upsetting day, although not as much as it could have been. Iona fell in the MAAC tournament, giving Loyola-Maryland the spot in the bracket for now. The top two seeds lost in the Sun Belt tournament, which has put Denver in the field. Washington has also rejoined the bracket after Cal lost today, giving the Huskies the top seed in the Pac-12 tourney. There was a scary moment for bubble teams today though as Creighton needed OT to subdue Illinois St. for the MVC championship.

Bracket note: Bracket projections are always based on “as if the tournament started today.” I am not predicting how teams will finish the season. The conference “champion” is the team with the fewest conference losses, with ties broken by RPI. I am not predicting that team will win the league. It is just the current leader. As conference tournament seeding gets determined, the leader will be the highest remaining seed in the conference tournament.

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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30 Responses to Monday Musings

  1. UpstateSCWolfpack 03/05/2012 at 8:47 AM #

    I think the fifth seed is just what the doctor ordered. I still feel like we need 2 wins in the ACC tournament, and I like our chance to advance to Saturday. If we were the four seed then those 2 wins become much more difficult.

  2. ncsu1987 03/05/2012 at 8:58 AM #

    Great read re: Valvano. I despise K’s on the court antics and the flopfest he’s created in Durham to hide his typical talent gap (after the first 5!), but you can’t argue with what he does off the court. He was a GREAT friend to Valvano, and he does an amazing amount of community and charity work, trying hard to stay out of the limelight while doing it.

  3. Rochester 03/05/2012 at 9:08 AM #

    Ken Pomeroy has us at #48, which would seem a bit more favorable to our cause than our RPI. Here’s our breakdown vs opponents according to KenPom (http://kenpom.com/):

    1-10: 0-4
    11-20: 0-1
    21-30: 1-3
    31-40: 2-0
    41-50: 0-0
    51-60: 0-1
    61-70: 1-1
    71-80: 0-0
    81-90: 2-0
    91-100: 0-0

    vs top 20: 0-5
    vs top 50: 3-8
    vs top 100: 6-10

    Not great, but if we can win two more games I like our chances. At least there would be some reason to tune in to Selection Sunday, unlike the past five years.

  4. DC_wolf 03/05/2012 at 9:28 AM #

    Thanks for the posts, Jigs, it’s been fun following the team (most times) w/my morning cup of coffee.

    Major muse: How big was that 1-point loss @ home to UVA?? Right now it’s the difference in a day off in Atlanta – I’m not complainin’, I’m jus’ sayin’…

    Minor muse: As satisfying as it is to finish off the regular season w/a win, imagine how much MORE satisfying it would be for the regular season crown… I think we’re heading in the right direction.

    And thanks to the team for finishing the conference 9-7 (5-3 on the road) & making my season finish in the StateFans poll correct! Now I do my endzone dance:

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    It may not look like it – but I’m dancing there. But seriously, congrats to the coaches for their 20-win season & thanks to the team for a winning ACC record!

  5. Texpack 03/05/2012 at 9:35 AM #

    We are in Bubble Quandary with respect to Texas and Miami. If they win, they make our best wins look better, but they also strengthen their own cases to the point that they might nudge us out. Our best chances lie with a bunch of Big East bubble teams making early exits from their tournament. Our RPI (CBS) went from 60 to 51. We passed both Texas and Miami. I think two wins make us a lock unless something really screwy happens with upsets.

  6. coach13 03/05/2012 at 9:54 AM #

    “If C.J. Leslie stays, they’ll be a challenger for 3rd place next year. ”

    I disagree. If Calvin comes back, I think we compete for the top spot. UNC loses Zeller and maybe Barnes and Henson early, maybe even Marshall? They will be good but we can beat them without their bigs. Who does Duke lose? We can be Duke this year, minus zealous referees anyway.

  7. Rochester 03/05/2012 at 10:07 AM #

    Agreed, coach13. If CJL comes back, we can run with anyone in the league. I can’t see Henson and Barnes coming back. If not for the NBA lockout it seems like Barnes might have left last summer.

    We’ll still be solid if he goes, but if he stays we’ll be looking at our best Wolfpack team in 20 years. UNC aside, CJL has been the best player on the floor just about every game the past two months. I’d understand if he left, but I sure hope he doesn’t.

  8. JasonP 03/05/2012 at 10:08 AM #

    Coach13 – I’m right there with you. With CJL back we are challenging UNC for first place.

  9. DC_wolf 03/05/2012 at 10:12 AM #

    I’d hate to lose Calvin’s experience right now. Even w/3 Mickie D’s coming in next year – they will still be green. This is where upper-class experience pays off big time.

  10. Wulfpack 03/05/2012 at 10:17 AM #

    Duke only loses Miles Plumlee, and possibly Rivers. They do not scare me in the least. I agree, if Calvin stays, we are going to be an absolute force next year and will contend for the conference championship.

  11. JeremyH 03/05/2012 at 10:30 AM #

    I also agree with Coach13, Leslie staying makes this team a major contender. Question is, would you rather have an NCAA berth + losing Leslie or an NIT berth + keeping Leslie? (Albeit, we could also have NIT berth + losing Leslie, but the question without this scenario is more interesting to me : ))

  12. wufpup76 03/05/2012 at 10:44 AM #

    Just a well earned tip of the hat to the players and coaching staff for their collective efforts this season.

    Regardless of what happens in the Atlantic Coast Cabal Tournament and on Selection Sunday, this season has been a smashing success in my opinion. It’s natural to play ‘what if’ – especially with some of the losses we endured this season – but overall – from top to bottom – what a drastic turnaround.

    I just can’t say enough. FIVE conference road wins. Nine total conference victories – over .500 for the first time in what seems like an eternity. And we’re on the bubble – right there with a fighting chance to get in. Amazing performance given the circumstances everyone walked into this season.

    Great job and thanks so much for not completely folding up shop after that Cabal job suffered in Durham!

    Now, let’s get some victories in Atlanta … Four would remove all doubt 🙂

    Go Pack!

  13. Alpha Wolf 03/05/2012 at 10:56 AM #

    The Pack has been in a tournament footing for two games already: survive and advance. That continues this Thursday and hopefully Friday.

    If so, we’ll sit back on Selection Sunday and see if we get put in the same bracket as Arizona State…ohhh, wait. I forgot about their troubles this year. Anyway, seriously, one win and we have a solid shot of getting in but I think with two, we’re a lock.

  14. DC_wolf 03/05/2012 at 11:06 AM #

    “Atlantic Coast Cabal”

    Hilarious!

  15. packof81 03/05/2012 at 11:23 AM #

    “”Atlantic Coast Cabal” Hilarious!”

    I second that. I howled when I read it.

    “Hess was properly reprimanded for failing to follow protocol. Less properly, he was removed from a subsequent game at Raleigh in an unsavory capitulation to Yow’s yowling.”

    Less properly? Hess _wants_ to officiate again soon at one of our home games? Bring him on!

    “And here N.C. State fans thought they weren’t popular with referees before.”

    Oh. You mean it can get worse?

  16. JSRy2k 03/05/2012 at 11:35 AM #

    Alpha, don’t you mock Arizona State. They’re on a win streak…for the first time all season.

  17. packbackr04 03/05/2012 at 11:40 AM #

    REMEMBER:Gott has a pretty big incentive built into his contract if he makes it to the the tourney this yr. so he is going to be pretty hungry to go dancing as well.

  18. rtpack24 03/05/2012 at 11:51 AM #

    I do think that Coach Gott should be in the hunt for coach of the year. I also find it ironic that Herb helped us by beating Ariz yesterday. They scored 87 which is like a three game total for them. I believe we have a good shot at making the tournament since Creighton and Murray State both won their tournaments.

  19. JeremyH 03/05/2012 at 11:54 AM #

    What is our shot in the tournment if we beat BC and lose to UVA? Depends on certain dominoes falling or overall low chance?

  20. wufpup76 03/05/2012 at 12:05 PM #

    ^I think it would be extremely iffy, Jeremy. You’re probably correct in saying the dominoes – as in everything would have to completely fall our way (such as Northwesteren losing in first round of B1G tournament, likewise for Seton Hall, etc).

    We’d still probably be on the outside looking in is my minor educated guess. At that point we’d have given the Committee plenty of reason to keep us out.

  21. wilmwolf80 03/05/2012 at 12:13 PM #

    What a hack job article that is by Jacobs. Geez, could he slant that incident any more in favor of the ACC?

  22. Wulfpack 03/05/2012 at 12:20 PM #

    “What is our shot in the tournment if we beat BC and lose to UVA?”

    Probably not very good. Still leaves us without a marquee win.

  23. SuperStuff 03/05/2012 at 12:44 PM #

    Just beat BC on Thursday and quit worrying about anything past that day. Damn Arizona lost to a crappy Arizona State team so nobody better look past their next opponent. Gottfried has taken us far this year. A few good shots away from taking this program even further at this point. We are competitive and I like it.

  24. BJD95 03/05/2012 at 1:08 PM #

    I also predicted 9-7, woohoo.

  25. Hungwolf 03/05/2012 at 1:52 PM #

    I do believe V would say we still got an ACC Championship we can win and an automatic bid up for grabs. We can still be ACC Champs. I for one would like to get another shot at UNX. There is no Regular Season Champ, that some farce that Roy Williams started feeding to the media years ago, cause he don’t care crap about the ACC Tourney. ACC Champ is determined by Tournament Champion. I think this team can do it with the improved play of Calvin and Alex Johnson. Time to bring the trophy bach where it belongs!!!! Our fans cheer louder than anyone at ACC Tourney and other schools besides those from Duke and UNC will cheer for anyone besides UNC/duke to win it!!! GO PACK!!!!!

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