Friday Night Revelry/Getting Above the “First Four” Thread

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Now that the Pack is 99 percent in the dance…can we skip the Tues/Wed preliminaries? Yes, if everything breaks right.

St Bonaventure’s win helped us, for sure. A Miami win ensures us of 4 Top 50 wins for the season. The hot mess that is the Pac 12 tourney rages onward.

Some games we can now just watch for fun, as we let our heart rates get back to normal. Go Hokies!!

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174 Responses to Friday Night Revelry/Getting Above the “First Four” Thread

  1. nouveau wolf 03/09/2012 at 11:47 PM #

    Dayton loses, oh well. Beat the holes!

  2. ScottieJ2000 03/09/2012 at 11:49 PM #

    Apparently I just learned the logic is that Washington was the regular season champions so they should get in… DUH! I guess I’m not as smart as Joe Lunardi if that is logic.

  3. BJD95 03/09/2012 at 11:52 PM #

    Damn it, Arch!!

    Assuming Miami also bites the dust, I don’t see any way around First Four. Us, USF, Drexel, and Colorado State??

  4. packattack13 03/09/2012 at 11:53 PM #

    Two questions for anyone that knows this rpi stuff and how it works. What is our rpi and Virginia’s rpi after the game today? And won’t just playing Carolina raise our rpi since they are so high ranked or am I wrong?

  5. nouveau wolf 03/09/2012 at 11:53 PM #

    Oh yeah, I remember hearing that. Funny, they don’t mention regular season champ in ANY of the criteria they discuss all day. NEVER.

    Have you ever heard “Well, they have a weak RPI and SOS. They went out early in the conference tourney and they have NO top 50 wins. But what really hurt them was finishing 2nd in the conference by 1 game in the regular season. That could really have changed things for them.”????

  6. STLPack01 03/09/2012 at 11:54 PM #

    U within 3. Under 4.

  7. nouveau wolf 03/09/2012 at 11:59 PM #

    CBS has us last four in and Drexel 1st 4 out (with miami in at 13).(per 9pm)

    Lunardi has us last 4 and Drexel and The U 1st 4 (per 10:45)

  8. ge_traveler 03/10/2012 at 12:00 AM #

    Miami is not hitting their free throws, can’t seem to cut it to less than 3 points.

    On the other hand, Texas is making a run, got it to within 4.

  9. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:01 AM #

    I think that Miss State and Seton Hall are behind Drexel. The failure of other bubble squads (such as NW and Tennessee) will get the Dragons in.

  10. WeAreCured 03/10/2012 at 12:03 AM #

    Miami is done. The timing of the Scott suspension couldn’t have been worse.

  11. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:03 AM #

    Miami is dumb as shit. Bleed the shot clock THEN foul on purpose.

  12. ScottieJ2000 03/10/2012 at 12:03 AM #

    @nouveau wolf haha That’s funny!

    @packattack13 It all depends on how other teams do. It’s all relative. We will probably meet Virginia in between their 42 RPI and our 54 RPI. We will go up and they will go down but without knowing how other games will end, we don’t know. We won’t know until all games today are finished. That’s why RPI isn’t updated by the hour because it would change so many times during the course of the day even though a computer program could easily get it up-to-date by the minute.

  13. STLPack01 03/10/2012 at 12:04 AM #

    let’s hope that by the mysteries of the RPI, Miami stays top 50 by virtue of the bump in SOS.

  14. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:06 AM #

    So we are the only semifinalist to have played above seed (and really, we tied for 4th anyhoo).

  15. Gowolves 03/10/2012 at 12:07 AM #

    Is it me or did Miami go full court pressure too early? They don’t have the athletes to do that at all. I do understand at some point you have to do it to force the issue. By going too early they gave away to many easy shots to take the lead. Not an expert by any stretch just a thought.

  16. ge_traveler 03/10/2012 at 12:09 AM #

    Well, Texas is stinking it up the last few minutes, down by 11 now.

  17. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:09 AM #

    My prediction is that Drexel is the one bumped from the First Four if Nevada or Long Beach gets upset in their conference tourney. But one mid-major will play in the prelims. One and only one.

  18. WeAreCured 03/10/2012 at 12:10 AM #

    The million dollar question:

    If all of the teams behind State on the bubble are finished playing, does losing to the likely #1 in the RPI Holes bump you back behind any of the teams who did not play on Saturday because they are out already?

    In other words, will State lose their position on the bubble by losing to the likely National Champs?

    I wouldn’t think a team that is through playing due to an early conference tournament loss could leapfrog State on the bubble because they lost to UNC, but who the Hell knows…

  19. STLPack01 03/10/2012 at 12:11 AM #

    shoot, if Texas loses bad, maybe we take their place on the 11 line by virtue of the head-to-head win.

  20. WeAreCured 03/10/2012 at 12:14 AM #

    Does anyone know which RPI the committee uses and why the Hell they are all different in the first place?

  21. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:17 AM #

    No, even if Carolina beats us by 40, we won’t slip. The committee pretty much ignores head-to-head, as I understand it. But I do think there’s an outside chance we get seeded ahead of Texas, would have been a better one had Miami won and given us 4 T50 wins. But probably always a longshot.

  22. ScottieJ2000 03/10/2012 at 12:18 AM #

    Let’s go Cali!!!!!!!

  23. BJD95 03/10/2012 at 12:18 AM #

    That’s the rub – the committee has a “secret formula” RPI and the #s we see are various guesses by other outlets. So there will be some seeding surprises.

  24. nouveau wolf 03/10/2012 at 12:19 AM #

    This shite is giving me a headache. Beat the holes and beat Dook. There, done.

    Interestingly, though, if anyone listened to Lunardi when he was asked about State’s chances after the Va win, he said “blah,blah,blah let’s see what they do tomorrow, do they come out and compete?”

    Soooo…is a good showing enough to avoid Dayton? A pox on Joey Brackets!

  25. STLPack01 03/10/2012 at 12:20 AM #

    They use the NCAA’s official RPI do they not? It has been updated once a week and listed on their website.

    But it is a secret formula that other outlets only guess at which explains the diversity.

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