Chronicling the incompetence…turning the page

I hope that after this entry we will be turning the page to bubble talk and hopefully NC State’s impending bid to the 2012 NCAA Basketball Tournament.

Before we do, I wanted to quickly consolidate some of the national and local media reviewing & discussing yesterday’s debacle in Atlanta so that we can go back to it in the future.

First, the following links are to some message board conversations:

* Of course, it all starts with the gross disrespect from Brian Dorsey that SFN reported yesterday in this entry.

* Brian Dorsey (Link)

* The two moving picture files in this thread is nice to see side by side. I think they are taken from this entry on Business Insider asking if NC State was robbed in the ACC Tournament?

* This thread discusses the awful mistake it was for the ACC officials to publicly show the appearance of impartiality by their boneheaded decision to pay homage to Karl Hess’ absence by taking ‘KH’ on their shoes.

Compared to everything else on the internet, the following video is the closest thing to what I would have put together if I had the talent (and time) because this video doesn’t focus on just the most obvious (and discussed) calls/no-calls on Leslie and Kendall Marshall…but it also tries to set up some of the other inconsistencies of the ’50/50′ block/charge that set the tone throughout the game.

Here is another one that focuses exclusively on the two ‘big calls’ that have garnered the most attention. It is in this one where the positioning of Brian Dorsey and his obvious eagerness to call Leslie for a charge becomes most obvious as there is NO WAY he can see through Leslie 15 feet away to see if the UNC player was set.

You know something is up when the News & Observer allows Caulton Tudor to write that ‘Inconsistent Officiating Hobbles Wolfpack’. Tudor is a master and maybe the best ACC writer at leading more educated readers to conclusions without having to say ‘too much’. Note how he specifically calls out Brian Dorsey’s inconsistency.

It was an important day for North Carolina, but it was more important for N.C. State and unfortunately, the first ACC Tournament semifinal game Saturday in Philips Arena got skewed by officiating.

That has to be a part of the record, simply because the fourth and fifth foul calls on Wolfpack forward C.J. Leslie were as pivotal in the outcome – Tar Heels 69, State 67 – as the jumpers, follows, fouls and turnovers.

When official Brian Dorsey irrationally read an offensive foul into a Leslie spin move with eight minutes, 35 seconds left, the game changed some. It then changed radically 32 seconds later when Dorsey whistled a fifth foul on Leslie, sending the standout sophomore to the bench with 22 points and seven rebounds in 29 minutes of playing time.

Had Leslie been allowed to play on, there’s a good chance State (22-12) would be playing in today’s championship game.

But it’s also a fact that State coach Mark Gottfried said miscommunication among coaches on the Pack bench resulted in him not being advised that Leslie had four fouls.

“I would have taken him out, if only for a minute or two, so that’s our responsibility,” Gottfried said.

In defense of the Pack coaches, Leslie could have not have been taken out of the game unless a timeout had been called instantly after his fourth foul. There wasn’t a clock stoppage between fouls four and five.

Since Leslie’s fourth foul didn’t result in a free-throw situation, Gottfried either would have had to call a timeout immediately, yell at the ref that a sub was on the way or would have had to have a sub at the table before the whistle. Had it been a defensive foul on Leslie, there would have been a second or two for more reaction time by State’s bench.

The overarching point on Dorsey’s calls has to go to consistency – the one aspect of officiating that coaches say they value most.

That fourth foul call on Leslie (offensive move) wasn’t interpreted the same way later when UNC’s Marshall hit the winning shot after a collision that left Alex Johnson on the floor.

Officials make mistakes and that’s fine. But if you’re an official charged with calling a State-Carolina game in the ACC Tournament, you at least need to be consistent.

[snip]

And it wasn’t like the opponent was Boston College or even Florida State for that matter. The Pack went at Carolina with the sort of effort that Jim Valvano would have applauded on what would have been his 66th birthday.

In the long run what we saw Saturday was a landmark afternoon in the State-Carolina series despite the officiating. After two easy Tar Heel wins in regular season, the Pack showed the sort of commitment that once made the rivalry among the best in the nation.

The two old enemies made the game memorable. For the first time in a long time, we can say that State is moving in UNC’s direction.

The Charlotte Observer has a slide show this morning called ‘calls and no calls’ that focuses only on CJ Leslie’s 3rd foul and the Kendall Marshall play at the end of the game. You read that correctly, the Charlotte Observer.

ESPN’s Eamonn Brennan joined Yahoo’s Dan Wiederer and many other national basketball bloggers lambasting the officiating in real time on Twitter. This link to Yahoo’s college basketball blog will represent some of the national media

If North Carolina State misses the NCAA tournament for the sixth straight season Sunday, the Wolfpack may remember a disputed non-call in Saturday’s ACC semifinal against North Carolina as the play that cost them a bid.

With the score tied at 67 apiece and 10 seconds to go, North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall appeared to lower his shoulder into Alex Johnson in an attempt to create space, knocking the NC State defender to the ground. Referees didn’t whistle a foul, so Marshall sank a wide-open bank shot in the paint, providing the final margin in the Tar Heels’ 69-67 victory.

That NC State coach Mark Gottfried and his team were so incensed about the non-call was a product of the implications of the game. Not only could the Wolfpack have advanced to the ACC title game and snapped a 12-game game losing streak to their hated rivals, they also could have essentially locked up an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament.

Because of the loss, however, North Carolina State (22-12, 9-7) will have an angst-ridden 24-hour wait until Sunday’s selection show.

An ACC quarterfinal win over Virginia and a regular season sweep of fellow bubble hopeful Miami may yet earn NC State an at-large bid, but the Wolfpack’s tournament resume is hardly unassailable. Their lone non-league win of note came over youthful Texas in November and they went 0-for-5 against the ACC’s power trio, North Carolina, Duke and Florida State.

Having a key call go against North Carolina State will surely inspire conspiracy theorists to note the public tiff between the school and the ACC over referee Karl Hess ejecting Wolfpack legends Chris Corchiani and Tom Gugliotta from a February game. Gottfried slammed both Hess and the league afterward, calling the ejections “weak” and “completely out of line 100 percent.”

“I’m disappointed quite frankly in the ACC because not only did he throw out two of North Carolina State’s greats, he threw out two of the ACC’s greats,” Gottfried said at a pep rally. “The league is supporting an official rather than supporting former great players. The former great players, in my opinion, were embarrassed and wronged when they shouldn’t have been.”

Tempting as it may be for NC State to put all the blame for Saturday’s loss on the call that went in favor of the Tar Heels, the reality is the Wolfpack made costly mistakes down the stretch that contributed to the loss.

C.J. Leslie, NC State’s leading scorer, fouled out with eight minutes to go in the game after getting two quick fouls in less than a minute. The Wolfpack stayed in it behind the play of Lorenzo Brown down the stretch, but costly turnovers by Johnson and Scott Wood on their last two possessions contributed to the loss.

Now that we’ve done national and regional media….let’s let a local media member have a say. (Link)

Journalistic integrity aside, sometimes you just have to call it as you see it. And, boy did we see it today.

Let’s be clear, things sometimes look different on television than they do in person. I’ve been very fortunate throughout the ACC Tournament to have a front row seat, on the court. I appreciate it, and truly try to enjoy every moment. This seat allows me a very up close view of the game in progress, and often times the same angle as the official along the baseline.

Sitting beside other media members, it also allows me the opportunity to compare thoughts on the game. Sometimes, I’ll make a comment and a fellow media member will tell me that I am flat out wrong. But, today we were all in agreement. NC State got jobbed.

The ACC is not going to admit it, the officials are not going to admit, and most media members won’t write it, but I will.

Now, I’m not going to say that the entire game was swayed toward North Carolina. I also understand that the Wolfpack put themselves in the position to lose the game, and if they had done things differently, they could have walked away with a win.

But, there were certainly spurts during the game that the officiating looked one sided, in the Tar Heels favor. Again, keep in mind that I’m a Tar Heel fan. Not a bandwagon jumper, a lifelong Tar Heel fan.
A couple of examples come to mind along press row. The first is during the 2nd half when NC State’s Lorenzo Brown was dribbling down the right side, Kendall Marshal came flying in from the left block to right block. The whistle blew, and to everyone’s surprise, the call went against Brown.

Later in the second half, similar plays by opposing teams resulted in opposing calls. As the Tar Heels drove the ball into the lane from the right side, a jumble of players occurred, UNC missed the shot and a
Wolfie was called for the foul. No, problem. But, on the very next play, the Wolfies dribbled into the paint from the left side, a jumble ensued and despite the body, and arm bashing, no call was made. It was obvious that things simply weren’t going to go NC State’s way.

Certainly, these are just two instances, and they don’t make a game either way. But without going through the game play by play, I can only offer an opinion of the game. And my opinion is that NC State got screwed.

A fellow broadcaster from Asheville, NC and admitted State fan said “I’m tired of playing 8 on 5. Any time you play North Carolina or Duke, the calls go the other way.”

When NC State Coach Mark Gottfried, was asked to comment on the officiating, he simply said “I can’t, they’ll fine me.” When he was asked if it was safe to say that official Brian Dorsey wouldn’t be receiving a Christmas card from the Gottfried family this year, Gottfried replied, sternly and glaringly, “I’m not answering that.”

During the press conference, a fellow media member noticed my excitement about the Tar Heel win, and asked if it bothered me that the Tar Heels won it that way. My answer to him was “No, that’s just the way it is. The Tar Heels get the call. Sometimes you are on the short end of the stick in life, and sometimes you are not.” The Tar Heels always seem to get the calls and that’s just the way it is.

So, let me say to the Wolfpack faithful, courtside it seemed obvious to me that your team got the short end of the stick. I don’t know if you would have won the game or not had it been any other way. But, I do know that you have a valid case. Make it, welcome in your highly ranked recruiting class next year and come back and give it another shot. But, remember this, you’re going to have to play even harder than the Tar Heels if you are going to win, because life just isn’t fair sometimes. You know it, and the Tar Heel nation knows it too.

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91 Responses to Chronicling the incompetence…turning the page

  1. wolfonthehill 03/11/2012 at 3:30 PM #

    ^ That would not lead to a good outcome around these parts…

  2. BJD95 03/11/2012 at 3:31 PM #

    New thread is up for your predictions. I am 99.9 percent confident that Palm is wrong.

  3. 61Packer 03/11/2012 at 3:34 PM #

    NCAA or bust. To hell with the NIT. We would have absolutely NOTHING to gain by accepting a bid into the nation’s premiere losers’ tournament. Winning your way in is one thing, but if you lose your way in, and accept, then you’re lost your way if you aspire for better things.

    Again, we saw what the NIT did for us under HWSNBN. Not one damned thing except lose to Wake Forest in the Garden. I rest my case.

  4. wolfpack_grad 03/11/2012 at 3:35 PM #

    I really hope that Palm is wrong. I think that the bottom portion of the 68 teams is the hardest to predict…. depending on which stats you give greatest weight, or how much weight you give the “eye ball test”, you can make a case for a lot of teams. We’ll know soon enough. I think I’m going to go take a 3 hour sedative.

  5. Wulfpack 03/11/2012 at 3:36 PM #

    How can we possibly be the last team in? One of the last four, yes. But I think Palm is dead wrong. Many others do as well. Lunardi has an outstanding track record and he says we are fine.

  6. Texpack 03/11/2012 at 3:37 PM #

    The odd team that concerns me that no one is talking about is Marshall. If you look at their numbers they have a solid case.

  7. MrPlywood 03/11/2012 at 4:25 PM #

    This gives you a much better look at both the Leslie and AJ calls. Put together by a State fan, I got his link from the forums…

    http://youtu.be/Z8fIqscvXTw

  8. TKEWOLF75 03/11/2012 at 4:27 PM #

    I know this will never happen, but I think a terrific way to show the WWF (sorry I meant the ACC) just how sick and tired the other 10 (soon to be 12) institutions are fed up with the double standard when it comes to the league’s promotion of the blues, both on and off the court.

    For one basketball season, I would like to see the other 10/12 schools forfeit all of their games (regular season & tournament) against UNCheat and DOOK. This would mean the holes and devils would not get the TV exposure (ESPN may have to layoff Dick V and Digger P) the conference brass craves except when they play each other, which would only be three times (2 regular season games and the ACC tournament championship). UNC and Duke finish 1-2 in the conference standings and play each other for the tournament championship which is Swafford’s gameplan at the beginning of each season.

    This is only a step below the nuclear option (which is the formation of a new non-blue league) but at the moment I cannot think of a more fitting tribute to the UNC homers running the ACC.

    I am NOT advocating this, but I do think it would be hilarious…and I cannot think of another conference so deserving of this type of peaceful protest.

  9. ancsu87 03/11/2012 at 4:32 PM #

    Cant make this stuff up…go to the FoxSports page and look at comments on write-up on the FSU/UNC-BS game. A UNC-BS fan wrote:
    crazycrave
    3/11/2012 2:45:29 PM
    I think the ACC needs another power team like FSU .. but that was the worst game so far by the refs for the tourney and it really cost UNC the chance to even get close enough to win.. the call against Zeller was the highlight of the tourney and givin FSU 2 free points when it was 100% clear it was the other way around.. i hope it makes ESPN to show that ref needs need to be fired .. hats off to FSU but it wasn’t called fair.

    Then had this to say when an FSU fan said the worst call was the non-call of charge at the end of the NC State game when the offensive player initiated contact:
    crazycrave
    3/11/2012 3:06:34 PM
    The call your talking about was not a charge because he was moving sideways as it showed it in the replay and you can’t do that.. also the last sec hell mary was anyones ball and the NC St player never got 2 hands on it and why it wasn’t called.

    Love it..and I thought we were not their rival but yet he brought up another call that the FSU fan did not even meantion.

  10. GAWolf 03/11/2012 at 5:03 PM #

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1099351-ref-allegedly-tells-nc-state-coach-shut-your-fing-a-up-during-loss-to-unc

    Bleacher Report calling for Dorsey to be made an example before officiating further digresses as a whole.

  11. 70wolf 03/11/2012 at 5:06 PM #

    Can I safely assume the N&O is ignoring all of this or does anyone over there have any integrity left. I have not read that rag since they forced Valvano out. I promised they would never get another dime from me and they have not to this day.

  12. Wulfpack 03/11/2012 at 5:08 PM #
  13. TLeo 03/11/2012 at 5:17 PM #

    Amazing….morons on those sites posting that either (A). it didn’t happen at all or (B). Gotfried was to blame for using profanity the entire game to the refs. Has to either be duke or ‘hole homers that made those posts. Absolutely amazing and ridiuculous a duke puke has the nerve to talk about language with the way K and the duke students behave.

  14. gumby 03/11/2012 at 8:56 PM #

    Now that we are safely in the big dance, I can only hope that Yow’s office is putting together a nice little gift basket for Swofford, including:
    1) State’s already clearly communicated dissatisfaction with the ACC’s handling of the Hess ejections affair
    2) The ACC’s grossly incompetent handling of the KH tribute and the associated media coverage of it
    3) Video evidence of the mockery that was the inconsistency (a.k.a. bias) of officiating of the State – Cheaters game (KH tribute part deux)
    4) Press coverage of Brian Dorsey’s mastery of Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People” exchange with Coach Gottfried
    In two days, the ACC has successfully heaped more deserved criticism and embarassment upon itself than most conferences do in their entire existence. Someone needs to answer for it.

  15. PackAmy 03/11/2012 at 9:14 PM #

    Now – I can turn the page. I hope that we perform very well in the tourney and take our (unbelievable) media coverage (more coverage in a weekend than in the past 5 years?) and make it impossible for the ACC to screw us anymore.

  16. rlgray 03/11/2012 at 9:26 PM #

    NCAA basketball has the Dean Smith Rule (the 35 second clock due to the four corners) and the Valvano Rule (shoot 2 free throws after the 10th foul due to the success Valvano had in the run thru the NCAA tournament in 1983 by putting the other teams on the free throw line late in the games). Now we need a Swofford Rule (no one can be a league commissioner – maybe even go a little deeper – when they are an alum of a member institution of that league, especially if they have been the AD of a member institution). It is not enough to be fair (if that is the case) one must have the appearance of being fair and something that cast a shadow of potential basis should be sufficient for disqualification. Like with Karl Hess.

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