ACC Scheduling After Pitt & Syracuse Joins

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The ACC has released information on the future scheduling plans for the conference after the addition of Pitt And Syracuse. You can read the linked article for more detailed information but here are the basics.

Football
Syracuse will join the Wolfpack in the Atlantic division and Pitt will be in the Coastal.

The conference schedule will move up to 9 games. Each team will play the 6 other teams in their division and 3 games in the opposite division (1 against the primary crossover partner and 2 rotating).

Men’s & Women’s Basketball
The basketball schedule will be going to 18 games. Each school will have a primary partner that they will play home and away and will play the other 12 schools at least once on a rotating schedule. NC State’s primary partner will be Wake Forest. Yes, that means NC State and North Carolina will no longer play twice a year home and away.

Olympic Sports
Other than baseball, teams will play every school at least once. The ACC will also start a gymnastics conference championship, with the addition of Pitt the conference will now have 4 teams that participate in gymnastics.

About WV Wolf

Graduated from NCSU in 1996 with a degree in statistics. Born and inbred in West "By God" Virginia and now live in Raleigh where I spend my time watching the Wolfpack, the Mountaineers and the Carolina Hurricanes as well as making bar graphs for SFN. I'm @wvncsu on the Twitter machine.

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75 Responses to ACC Scheduling After Pitt & Syracuse Joins

  1. VaWolf82 02/03/2012 at 11:54 PM #

    I’M not mad ,just disappointed in what this conference has become.

    When State was relevant, I used to care about the conference as a whole. But after watching State be irrelevant over the last two decades, I only have enough “care” left to want State to be good again (and not Sendek good either). I have no concern left over for the ACC.

  2. turfpack 02/04/2012 at 12:19 AM #

    ^^^VaWolf82 you are correct ..why have any concern over the ACC…All I truly care about is State and that is good enough for me.

  3. ryebread 02/04/2012 at 12:27 AM #

    I wonder if we could draw the line about the anger by age. Honestly, most younger fans (and I say this about anyone who went to NC State after V) have only known UNC kicking the crap out of NC State in basketball (outside of the Doh years). Older fans know a more competitive series.

    Personally, I hate watching us get our rears handed to us. Playing UNC twice does us no good when we lose them all. For those not counting, we’ve lost about 10 in a row to them and almost every one by at least 15 points. That’s not a rivalry game. That’s just lambs to slaughter (much like Clemson at Chapel Hill has been).

    For those who are mad, I have to wonder if they’re not looking in the mirror. Many of the older alums are the enablers that drove this thing into the ground. This is a product of 20 years of basketball irrelevance, of letting HWSNBN stick around 5 years longer than he should, of Lee Fowler, of the cluster @#$()* of a search that resulted in hiring Lowe, of not firing Lowe after year 3 and of not being able to compete with the big dogs for 20 years. We’ve screwed around 20 years and now are screaming “woe is me.”

    Let’s be realistic. Duke and UNC have mopped up over the last 20 years, have solidified their rivalry — both on the field of play and in the classroom — and have built national brands. Their students view the other as rivals. UNC students view us the same way we view ECU. Duke students really don’t care at all. Outside of the state of North Carolina, people see UNC and Duke as rivals. They confuse us with Stanford and call us Carolina.

    The ACC and ESPN are looking to capitalize on UNC/Duke. Many don’t believe it, but the more revenue that creates, the better it is for us. For those not paying attention, we’re pretty cash strapped and could use it.

    I’m sorry, but NC State to the SEC thing is just laughable. I love NC State, but if we were in the SEC, we’d be another Mississippi State. We consistently pay our coaches the lowest in the ACC. How exactly are we suddenly going to have the cash to pay what the SEC salaries are? Their football coaches are now making upwards of $3-4M a year.

    Also, if we leave the ACC, don’t count on UNC, Wake and Duke just lining up to play us — particularly not in basketball. We’ll have effectively flown the finger at them, taken our ball and gone home. What incentive will they have to schedule us?

    Finally, it’s never going to fly on the academic side of the house. Probably the best thing that we have going for us academically right now is the affiliation with our ACC brethren.

  4. Tau837 02/04/2012 at 12:46 AM #

    This is the first time I’ve actually considered that a move to the SEC might be a positive.

  5. 8pack 02/04/2012 at 12:57 AM #

    Well, this settles it for me…F$*k Swofford, Carolina, Duke, and their crooked-ass ACC. They can keep their crooked refs, their precious tv deals, Todd Turner, Bruce Poultan, the N&O and everything else that makes me sick about them. This aint the ACC I grew up with, or that Everett Case, et al brought into being. We dont need it anymore. If the SEC ever comes calling, we should jump immediately. Never, ever thought I would say that.

  6. 61Packer 02/04/2012 at 2:10 AM #

    I told you pro-expansion folks this would probably happen. As bad as I hate the people who work on Jones Street in downtown Raleigh, it might be time to bring them into this, and FORCE the league to allow NCSU and UNC play twice a season in basketball.

    And I knew Syracuse would be the new team in our football division. Whoopee! Now we can travel to the Carrier Dome three times as often as we now get to drive the 20 miles over to Durham.

    For the first time, I’m in with those who say let’s get the hell out of this league and go somewhere else. The Big 12 needs more teams. I’m sure we’d be a good playing partner for West Virginia, by God.

    The Wolfpack Club has been great for selling me and other fans on the idea of buying tickets every year, but this might soon come to a halt. I’ll be damned if I’m going to pay money every year from now on when our home conference schedule is nothing but Wake Forest and teams from at least 400 miles north and south of us.

    If anyone on here can organize a serious boycott this coming season, count me IN!

  7. tractor57 02/04/2012 at 2:31 AM #

    As mentioned in another thread if I had my druthers the conference would be the original 8 members and basketball centric. That ain’t happening. Given the headlong rush to mega conference size I can’t see any significantly better scheduling when considering all factors.

    Not exactly to my liking but then I don’t have a better alternative.

  8. PackerInRussia 02/04/2012 at 4:30 AM #

    “It’s obvious what we need to do.

    One-Man Wolfpack Conference (OMWC, or “ohm-whack”).

    Tell the “corporate pigs” we don’t need them or their stinkin’ money. Money’s for losers! Stick it to the man!!”

    Finally, someone talkin some sense 😉

  9. Wufpacker 02/04/2012 at 5:59 AM #

    I really have a hard time believing that some of you seem so surprised by this. That is all.

  10. tuckerdorm1983 02/04/2012 at 7:56 AM #

    what we want is for UVA to lose any and all games. UVA wins and losses could determine if we go dancing

  11. BJD95 02/04/2012 at 9:01 AM #

    Football is what makes the money. Not Duke/Carolina basketball.

    We would make lots more $$ as part of the SEC, because their football is so much better. It would be an honor to be part of the very best conference, even if we have to start at the bottom. Totally worth it.

    In the interim, I’m very glad to be playing a 9-game conference slate in football. As to the future – yeah, I do think Duke and Wake would play us OOC in football. It’s in their interest, financially. Carolina might not, but fuck ’em. We can be satisfied with beating their asses once every 10-20 years in the Peach or Nashville bowl.

  12. VaWolf82 02/04/2012 at 10:01 AM #

    UVA wins and losses could determine if we go dancing

    You’ll have to explain this one. It seems extremely unlikely to me that UVA’s record will have any impact at all on whether or not State gets an NCAAT bid.

  13. tuckerdorm1983 02/04/2012 at 10:29 AM #

    I believe whoever comes in 4th in the ACC will go dancing, regardless. We achieve 4th place and off we go. Maybe I am wrong

  14. VaWolf82 02/04/2012 at 11:11 AM #

    I believe whoever comes in 4th in the ACC will go dancing, regardless.

    That philosophy didn’t work out too well for Seth Greenburg.

  15. 61Packer 02/04/2012 at 11:34 AM #

    So now we get Syracuse football every year. THIS is a money maker?

  16. tuckerdorm1983 02/04/2012 at 11:35 AM #

    last year they took UNC, Duke, FSU and Clemson. Clemson was 9-7 just like VT and both had 22-12 records. Clemson had no signature wins and VT had none either.

  17. gcpack 02/04/2012 at 12:42 PM #

    “For those who are mad, I have to wonder if they’re not looking in the mirror. Many of the older alums are the enablers that drove this thing into the ground. This is a product of 20 years of basketball irrelevance, of letting HWSNBN stick around 5 years longer than he should, of Lee Fowler, of the cluster @#$()* of a search that resulted in hiring Lowe, of not firing Lowe after year 3 and of not being able to compete with the big dogs for 20 years. We’ve screwed around 20 years and now are screaming “woe is me.” ” Ryebread

    The older alums drove this into the ground?
    Pretty absurd particularly when you focus primarily on events of the last 5 years as your proof that hardly would include the “older alums”.

    If your proof included events of the 80’s and 70’s then fine but blaming this on older alums is ridiculous when you pretty much only included the last decade at the most.

    There have been two periods that hurt us. Both of which were a direct result of incompetent ADs. One Ad who was fired from subsequent jobs(Turner) and the other in over his head(Fowler). The 7 to 9 years after the Valvano era when Les Robinson was coaching bball with Turner(saboteur) as AD and then Robinson as AD. That should have been our penance paid for essentially weak NCAA transgressions and the turn around should have begun then.

    The real destructive period was once Fowler arrived. He was basically handed the fball coaching search with TOB practically begging to get out of BC. I won’t give Fowler credit for that but I will blame him for the ridiculous bball coaching search. Making it public before knowing that he couldn’t hire a big name coach then refusing to go to the mid-major level for an experienced head coach before hiring the unexperienced Lowe.

    Blaming it all on the “old alums” is a specious argument. I guess I need a definition of what you call an “old alum”. To me that would be those who graduated before 1980. Only a small few of those would have had any influence only 10 years out of school to be involved with the Turner or Robinson’s hires.

  18. VaWolf82 02/04/2012 at 12:48 PM #

    Clemson had no signature wins and VT had none either.

    You’ve lost me. Are you talking about teams all from the same year?

    In 2010, VT finished 4th with a 10-6 record and didn’t go the NCAAT. Thus finishing fourth (or getting 10 ACC wins) in the regular season doesn’t guarantee anything.

  19. RowdyNCSU 02/04/2012 at 1:18 PM #

    The tradition of the ACC has been on life support for quite a while now and swofford has finally pulled the plug in exchange for a larger share of ESPN’s pie…..never thought I would miss the days of 9 teams so much.

    Side note to those tossing around a move to the SEC…..recall that the exit fee from the ACC was just increased to 20 mil…..I don’t see us being able to afford that move even if it were possible.

  20. ancsu87 02/04/2012 at 7:00 PM #

    I love that this site lets a person call other NC State fans stupid for having a different opinion not once but twice…..then lets a person tell all older alums to look into the mirror because they caused the current woeful status of NC State BB….but yet when a person questions this his comment is removed…

    FWIW…I went toe to toe with the university over the whole Dean Montienth and JV issue. There is a lot that went on during that team that those who came later have no clue about.

    I also told Bobby Purcell as a young alumni in 1990 that the WPC would not get another dime from me until this siutation was corrected. Because of Gott the WPC now has some money from me.

  21. 61Packer 02/04/2012 at 9:02 PM #

    We’ve all seen this schedule mess coming for quite some time, actually since about ’91 when FSU became the 9th member of the ACC. We’re now up to 14 teams and counting.

    The average fan, who pays much of the bill, doesn’t seem to have an ally here anymore. The coaches, who could demand more league games to counter expansion, won’t. The tv networks who’ve seized control of college sports want to create rivalries rather than let the fans decide who they want as their team rivals. League administrators like John Swofford are oblivious to fans’ cries that they don’t want to see local teams replaced on the schedule with faraway teams that they couldn’t care less about seeing.

    So now it seems no one in the ACC can play someone else twice a season in b-ball, except for their primary partner that Swofford and his henchmen are determining. Well, here are MY pairings and reasons, which make just as much sense:

    Syracuse-Clemson: for color co-ordination
    Virginia Tech-Georgia Tech: for technical reasons
    Duke-Wake Forest: nobody can spell their coaches’ names
    Boston College-Miami: maintaining a Big East coastal rivalry
    NC State-Florida State: the only “States” in the league
    North Carolina-Virginia: booze and Hoos
    Maryland-Pittsburgh: a longstanding rivalry not to be tampered with

    Seriously, if this new rule goes into effect, state lawmakers here need to step in and force the league’s hand, like they forced UNC and State to play ECU in football, and like Virginia lawmakers did when they forced the league to admit Virginia Tech, the ONLY expansion team that has made any sense. If this fails, then the Big Four Tournament should be revived. And if this also fails, then rivalries like State-UNC, Wake-UNC, State-Duke and UVA-Maryland should continue as non-conference games. The amount of revenue lost for every State-UNC game that’s eliminated would be a financial setback to not only the UNC System but to the ACC as well.

    And if all the above fails, maybe it’s time for schools like State to follow the Texas A&M example and just leave! A famous coach once said that cancer could take away his body but not his soul. And right now, we have a real cancer in charge of the very soul of our league, and it’s about to metastasize to Stage IV. It needs to be stopped.

  22. john of sparta 02/04/2012 at 10:04 PM #

    this is a pure power play.
    1. 2012 NFL regular season goes Sunday-Monday-Thursday.
    2. MLB goes pay-for-view for 1/2 of games.
    3. MMA goes year-round.
    the ACC has to fit in there somewhere.
    if we want to watch ‘free’…well, you know.

  23. Packster 02/05/2012 at 8:31 AM #

    Everything has become about money. There is nothing like our rivalry with UNC. I absolutely cannot believe it is going away. We live in an f’d up world. We should definitely be looking for a way out of this conference. I don’t understand how we have ever reached this point and how those who represent our university have allowed it to happen.

  24. Tavist 02/05/2012 at 12:54 PM #

    All they need to do is re-align the divisions. Create a “Heritage Division” with NCSU, UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, Maryland, Clemson, Virginia so all that great ACC history isn’t lost forever. They can create in-state or regional rivals if they want to so Virginia and Virginia Tech get to play every year. When the next two schools get added, Georgia Tech will be next in the Heritage division.

  25. IamGumbyDammit 02/05/2012 at 1:04 PM #

    This is an abomination. Adding John Swofford’s name to my list of graves I want to urinate on before I die. On the other hand, the ACC just made it easier to rationalize NC State jumping ship to the SEC one day…

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