Princeton – Gottfried can start ‘taking it back’ for the Pack

SFN just tweeted

Fired up about another opp’t 2 watch NC State play basketball! Ball movement! Rebounding! Hustle! Dribble penetration! #realbasketball

…and we couldn’t agree more! I haven’t been this excited about watching basketball since Sidney Lowe’s first season and the beginning of his second season.

After the Wolfpack defeated Morehead State on Sunday night Head Coach Mark Gottfried made a statement that I thought crystallized my feelings — “I like the way we are playing the game”.

AMEN to that! If you haven’t seen the Pack play yet, then you haven’t seen the dribble penetration from quick guards; the excellent dishing and passing from everyone; an offense that moves without the ball; a tenacity for rebounding and outlet passes; and general energy and hustle that has been missing from our program for a very long time.

The Wolfpack plays host to Princeton tonight in Raleigh at 7pm on ESPNU. The Tigers are the third consecutive NCAA Tournament team from last year that NC State has faced to open the 2011-2012 season. Princeton opened this season with a 73-57 home loss to Wagner that saw Junior Ian Hummer, score a game-high 19 points and nine points. Last season, Hummer averaged 13.8 points per game and 6.8 rebounds per game.

From a historical context this game actually means something to me. You won’t believe this….but NC State is friggin 1-5 All-Time against Princeton.

I am an ‘old school’ NC State fan that remembers how wonderful it was to have a ‘long-term’ successful program that could match its records against anyone else in the country and come out looking great. For example…consider the following —

In 1988, there were only a handful of programs against which NC State had an all-time losing record. Of that handful, NC State had an all-time losing record against only THREE programs that we had played more than five times — North Carolina, Notre Dame and Kansas. However, the Herb Sendek and Sidney Lowe era significantly changed that (once fantastic) dynamic for our program. Today, NC State has an all-time losing record against a much larger number of overall programs…and – after Sendek and Lowe’s regime – the Wolfpack has added Maryland, Boston College, Alabama, West Virginia, and PRINCETON to the list of programs against which we have an all-time losing record with five or more match-ups!!

Herb Sendek actually lost to Princeton TWICE while coaching NC State! Including a potentially blasphemous NIT loss to the Tigers in his fourth year as coach in what would have been ‘the last game in the history of Reynolds Coliseum’ if we had not started scheduling ‘Heritage Games’ in the Old Barn.

So, you can see what I am getting at with Coach Gottfried and his new start — I want to start taking BACK our all-time records against a lot of the programs that have taken advantage of us the last 20 years. Oddly enough, Princeton is one of those programs. After we beat the Tigers tonight, I hope that we make Princeton an annual fixture on our schedule for the five to seven years and put an exclamation on another piece of our historical record book.

If you want a detailed preview then by all means click here.

Last season was the culmination of Sydney Johnson’s reclamation project at Princeton, or so he must have felt, anyway, since he moved on to Fairfield during the offseason.

Johnson’s rebuilding efforts worked quickly, as the program went from six wins in his first season to 13 in his second, 22 in his third, and 25 in his fourth and final season. He decreased the team’s reliance on the three-pointer and built a defense predicated on solid interior play and defensive rebounding. They won the Ivy League in 2011 and almost upset Kentucky in the NCAA tournament.

They lost a couple of key contributors off that team, though–Dan Mavraides was an excellent outside shooter and a primary contributor. Kareem Maddox was the team’s best interior scorer, defensive rebounder, and shot blocker; he’ll be especially difficult to replace. But new Franklin C. Cappon-Edward G. Green ’40 Head Coach (that’s what they call the position) Mitch Henderson has enough pieces to be competitive in the Ivy League, and Johnson left him plenty of size.

Henderson has spent his entire career coaching the Princeton style (he spent the last decade at Northwestern), and it remains to be seen if he makes the Tigers back into a perimeter-oriented team. Last year just 31% of their field goal attempts were threes, a proportion below NCAA average. This team isn’t really built to hoist up a lot of long-range shots–its go-to scorer attempted zero threes last season–and doesn’t have what one would call a diverse array of deep threats.

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115 Responses to Princeton – Gottfried can start ‘taking it back’ for the Pack

  1. Prowling Woofie 11/17/2011 at 9:55 AM #

    Guys, don’t beat Clavin down without giving him a chance. I think he sees the positive changes and wants to be a part of them.

    He’ll have his head on straight from the get-go… remember, he’s working with a Coaching Staff this year !

  2. Six Pack 11/17/2011 at 9:58 AM #

    I’m happy about the W last night, no doubt. Sid and Herb would’ve found a way to lose this one. Sid would have lost it by about 11 points with sloppy D midway through the second half, and a Herb coached team would have had a 5 point lead with 4 minutes and not have scored anymore points and lost by 4 with Princeton making their free throws down the stretch. It’s still early, but this was certainly a solid win considering the number of players either sick, recovering from sickness, or suspended.

    Oh yeah, my murdered lyrics…

    “Hold me closer, Tony Danza”
    and
    “Rock the Cat Box”

  3. rtpack24 11/17/2011 at 10:04 AM #

    The game last night was a great opportunity for this team to show some heart and guts. I thought they showed both. I was also very impressed with the coaching. Gott did a great job. This team’s fundamentals are light years ahead of last year. We need Wood back asap. However, I believe he rolled his ankle pretty bad. He will be out for awhile. It also looked like the guys really enjoy playing together.

  4. PackMan97 11/17/2011 at 10:20 AM #

    The best thing I’ve heard about Calvin this season is his support from the bench and how into the game he’s been. He’s not been moping or acting bored.

    In my opinion, these next few games will define what type of player he is. I hope he steps up.

  5. blpack 11/17/2011 at 10:31 AM #

    No doubt we would have lost this game in the past. We found a way last night. Got to get healthy and get ready to take on better teams as the season progresses.

  6. Prowling Woofie 11/17/2011 at 10:39 AM #

    It may all be attributable to Gott’s previous employment, but during the 20 year exile that NC State BB has endured, I have unofficially gauged our success by how far up/down the pecking order we are in terms of bottom line scores on ESPN.

    They start with the Top 25 and then list other scores in order of relevance, and since we haven’t sniffed the Top 25 in forever, it always takes a while before they get to our score (unless we’re playing someone decent).

    Last night, ours was the first score listed after #24 FSU…

  7. patientwuf 11/17/2011 at 10:40 AM #

    What a difference good coaching makes. I watched in amazement.

    Waiting to see that with our football team.

  8. St8Fan 11/17/2011 at 11:25 AM #

    Really enjoyed watching these guys “gut” it out last night. Favorite moment was when we held them defensively for a shot clock violation…immediately looked at Coach Gottfried and he was 6-8 feet out into the court cheering harder than any fan in the building…

  9. Texpack 11/17/2011 at 2:06 PM #

    With the player shortage being what it was last night the results were ok. We do not look nearly as comfortable against a zone as we do against man to man. That was true in the first two games as well. AJ is a solid ball handler and “don’t screw it up” type of player, but I see nothing so far to suggest that he will be a consistent 3 pt threat. I’m anxious to see if TDT can provide that. Painter, Van Denberg and Howell all look to be dramatically better. I hope I still feel that way in mid February. For the third year in a row I will say that this team will go as far as our 3 pt shooting allows. We can’t run a 5-6 3 pt FG deficit every night and expect to be competitive in today’s college game. If Princeton had been able to shoot FT’s as well as a 11 under rec league team last night, we’d have been toast. Glad we won, but I see some definite vulnerabilities. The good news is that I imagine Gott is already working on those.

  10. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 11/17/2011 at 4:16 PM #

    What a fun game last night. Princeton always scares me and the fact that State was able to pull out the win is nothing short of amazing. A 3-0 start against two NCAA teams and a Princeton team that is never easy to beat, is a great sign.

    I’m pretty sure if the last staff was still in place State could very well be 1-2 or 0-3 right now.

  11. MBS 11/17/2011 at 5:01 PM #

    Over the past 20 years we’ve had:

    5 years of Les Robinson – the darkest years; hopeless
    10 years of Sendek – some success, but not much fun
    5 years of Lowe – constant cycle of high hopes and frustrating realities.

    So, for 20 years, we haven’t had the opportunity to cheer for a team that is fundamentally sound, talented, AND fun to watch. It’s funny how much the little things mean right now!

  12. fernandopacker 11/18/2011 at 9:37 AM #

    Looking good! Does anyone know who Princeton has played and beaten this year?

  13. kyjelly 11/18/2011 at 9:42 AM #

    Princeton lost to Wagner at home by 15? Not sure what that means?
    I like the way this team looks so far .

  14. MISTA WOLF 11/18/2011 at 11:04 AM #

    If it makes you feel better I use to sing “Taking Care of Biscuits”.

  15. MISTA WOLF 11/18/2011 at 11:10 AM #

    I think we are playing Vanderbilt at the right time which is going to really let us see where the team is at. Vandy had an embarrassing loss to Cleveland St. so I have a feeling their coach let their ass have it the past week. I believe their going to give us their best game and I hope the boys are ready to rock and roll.

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