SEC unanimously accepts A&M; Big XII blocking move? (Updated 8pm)

Now that it’s official that A&M will become the 13th member, it’s absolutely certain the SEC will at least add a 14th member, and probably soon (ESPN):

The member presidents of the Southeastern Conference unanimously voted to accept Texas A&M Tuesday night as the league’s 13th member, but the Aggies’ official acceptance has been delayed by the potential threat of legal action.

The SEC’s presidents want assurances that no individual Big 12 school will sue for contractual interference over Texas A&M’s departure. Baylor has not given that assurance to this point, according to sources.

“We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action,” University of Florida president and SEC chairman Dr. Bernie Machen said in a statement released Wednesday. “The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. “

The only holdup to this becoming official is potential legal action by Baylor, which stands to lose the most of all Big XII members should the conference become defunct, as expected (Yahoo!):

A threat of legal action by Baylor has, at least temporarily, held up Texas A&M’s move to the SEC. The SEC’s presidents voted unanimously Tuesday night to extend an invitation to Texas A&M to become the league’s 13th member, but that invitation is contingent upon all of Texas A&M’s Big 12 counterparts waiving their right to a legal challenge.

A source said Baylor had broken ranks with the remaining Big 12 members, which decided last week to waive their right to legally challenge a move by Texas A&M. In a statement, Florida president Bernie Machen, the chair of the SEC’s presidents group, said the SEC would not accept Texas A&M as a member until the potential legal roadblocks were cleared.

The question for State fans: how will this affect the ACC, and thus, State? Sources indicate that Virginia Tech may be the target for the 14th member, so the dominoes may begin to fall very soon now.

There’s been much discussion on SFN about State promoting itself as a target for SEC expansion. LRM says the ACC should raid the Big XII rather than the Big East; maybe the ACC thinks that’s the right idea.

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Dan Wetzel asks if bigger is better (Yahoo!):

To call the proposed 16-member leagues “superconferences” is a painful misnomer. Bigger isn’t better for anyone who isn’t getting a bonus based on a television contract. It’s not good for the athletes, the coaches, the alumni or the general fans.

College football’s enduring appeal includes history, tradition and regional rivalries, all of which are currently being spit on by the warring conference commissioners and duped university presidents, a group that likes to refer to itself as the “guardians of the game”

Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops on Tuesday had to shrug at the possibility that the storied Oklahoma-Texas “Red River Shootout” – first played in 1900, usually in Dallas at the Texas State Fair – could cease to exist.

“Sometimes that’s the way it goes,” Stoops said, noting the decision is beyond his control.

Already the Texas-Texas A&M rivalry, which began in 1894, is in jeopardy. Even schools that wind up safe in a big conference will play their long-time rivals less.

And the impact here on other sports – most notably men’s and women’s basketball – could be brutal. Essentially the people who think the BCS is a good idea are threatening the fabric of March Madness.

It may be inevitable, but there are very few positives about any of this. Football is football, so the product will deliver in the end, but the people running the sport are trying their best to maim the appeal.

“I feel like further consolidation and more stability would be a healthy thing for college football,” Pac-12 (or will it be Pac-16?) commissioner Larry Scott said Saturday. “Right now there’s obviously some instability that I don’t think is a particularly healthy thing in certain parts of the country.”

Nice line, but it’s the consolidation that is causing the instability. The Big 12 was fine until Scott came calling in 2010 in an effort to bolster his soon-to-be negotiated media rights deal. While conference membership has occasionally shifted through the years, there was never a free-for-all like this, one that threatened the very collegial purpose of college athletics.

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Looks like the Big XII members are going to block the move…at least until Oklahoma decides its future (ESPN):

Texas A&M’s move to the SEC ultimately would happen if Oklahoma stays put in the Big 12, but until that occurs eight of the remaining nine Big 12 schools will not waive their right to pursue litigation against the SEC and A&M, a source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com.

During Wednesday’s conference call of the Big 12’s board of directors, the source said it was made clear that the SEC was unwilling to accept the Aggies until the rest of the Big 12 schools waived their right to sue. The confusion arose from a letter that Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe sent to SEC commissioner Mike Slive on Sept. 2, in which Beebe stated that the Big 12’s board of directors — not the individual schools — wouldn’t pursue litigation.

“This is the first time to my knowledge that a conference has been requested to waive any legal claims toward another conference for any damages suffered with a membership change,” Beebe said in a statement Wednesday. He added that the waiver “did not and could not bind the individual member institutions’ governing boards to waive institutional rights.”

Stay tuned…

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119 Responses to SEC unanimously accepts A&M; Big XII blocking move? (Updated 8pm)

  1. nav 09/07/2011 at 10:10 AM #

    Anyone else feel that the ACC and especially NC State are sitting ducks. There is no way State will be proactive with this. They’ll go down with the sinking ACC ship.

  2. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 10:28 AM #

    If we don’t immediately push to be the SEC’s 14th member, then we deserve the painful rogering that we shall surely receive.

    In my view, there’s really no alternative that makes even the slightest bit of sense for NC State. Without that, get ready for C-USA caliber football and HUGE cuts in athletic department revenue.

    But by all means, rant about how we should shrink the geographic footprint and focus on basketball. Free country and all.

  3. Plz2BStateFan 09/07/2011 at 10:37 AM #

    If I was the SEC, I go after VT and UVA as a package and A&M with someone else from the Big 12.

  4. nav 09/07/2011 at 10:41 AM #

    ^I think they may would have to take both VT and UVA as a package. Remeber the policital backlast from the VA govn’t when VT was going to left in the cold without the ACC. You would hear the same if VT left for the SEC and was leaving UVA in the cold with a sinking ACC.

    But from the SEC perspective it does no finanical good to take both schools so this may be out our favor.

  5. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 10:57 AM #

    So make the play for State and Maryland as the alternative. With State going first. Maryland can be the fallback if they can’t get VT solo.

  6. jbpackfan 09/07/2011 at 11:04 AM #

    I don’t really believe State is even on the SEC’s radar. SEC looks to be going after Mizzou or WVU. State has only been mentioned by State fans on message boards. I also don’t see State trying to leave UNC and Duke. Wouldn’t be surprised, however, if UNC and Duke left us hanging and joined the Big Ten.

  7. heavy 09/07/2011 at 11:04 AM #

    Is Baylor’s response a way to get an invitation to the SEC as well? Squeaky wheel gets the grease…

  8. nav 09/07/2011 at 11:21 AM #

    “Wouldn’t be surprised, however, if UNC and Duke left us hanging and joined the Big Ten”

    I think they would in a flash. They would be be dumb not to in reality. They should be looking out for themselves also.

  9. packhammer 09/07/2011 at 11:24 AM #

    Can we just beat Wake on Saturday please.

  10. codebrown 09/07/2011 at 11:27 AM #

    We have a better chance of going to the SEC than beating Wake on Saturday, hammer.

  11. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:30 AM #

    You guys are ESPN’s bytches! Seriously.
    For the sake of a few $$$ you are willing to throw out all control (& give it to ESPN), give up everything that makes amateur college ball what it is: rivalries, amateurism, regional opponents.
    And you guys are willing to do that for a few extra $$$ in TV revenue?!

    These “super conferences” will simply throw a bunch of teams together with nothing in common into two divisions and call it a conference.

    …any you guys think that will make for great intercollegiate sports?!

    Sorry, I’m just cut out of a different piece of cloth.

  12. jbpackfan 09/07/2011 at 11:34 AM #

    ^I’m against expansion, but I’m worried about what is going to happen to NC State when it inevitably occurs.

  13. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 11:36 AM #

    Because if you don’t adapt to the new landscape, you don’t survive as a viable entity. Period.

    Major college sports are big business, and big business is about maximizing profit. You either accept that, or you get off the major college sports train.

  14. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 11:42 AM #

    To elaborate, it’s not a matter of choosing whether or not to go back to the “old ACC” model. NC State does NOT have the power to stop the mega-conference trend by not participation. It would be Nero with his fiddle all over again.

    The simple choice is whether or not we proactively look out for our best interests, or resignedly accept our fate as a post-expansion remnant (along with the Baylors of the world).

  15. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:42 AM #

    “Because if you don’t adapt to the new landscape, you don’t survive as a viable entity. Period.”

    BJD, I respect you but you are so FOS and buying into the hype so bad man! We have a 55,000 seat stadium that is sold out for every game despite our spotted success over the years, we have one of the largest hoops arena and are still in teh top 20 in paid attendence in the country AND WE HAVE FREAKIN SUXed A HOOPS FOR YEARS. We are the largest university in the 10th largest state AND we have one of the largest boosters clubs.
    ……and you are worried that we will be left out and won’t survive as a viable entity?!

    Wake up and drink the coffee dude!

  16. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:43 AM #

    We aren’t going to “get left out” and we shouldn’t do something stupid just to do “something”.

  17. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:47 AM #

    Hey how about this idea: since we are going to prostitue ourselves to ESPN anyway, why not have two giant mega-conference of 60 teams each?

    ESPN East for east of the Mississippi; and ESPN West for the western USA.
    The East gets tOSU, UF, ND. The West get’s USC, Stanford, Texas, Bosie.

    Everybody is happy and ESPN can set everyone’s schedule.

  18. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 11:55 AM #

    If we end up in a decimated ACC, the tv $$ will go down. Our coaching and recruiting budgets will suffer. We would be nowhere near the Top 25, with no realistic path to ever get there again.

    Yes, I think that would reduce fan interest, and along with it ticket revenue and alumni giving.

    But TV revenue is by far the most important factor in having a competitive budget. And if we are left behind…we won’t have either.

  19. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:56 AM #

    It actually makes a hellofalot of sense if ya think about it.
    None of this power vs non-power conference stuff for the BCS games, no arguing about who is whose rival, total revenue sharing, soforth & etc.

    Basically ESPN controls all the bowl games anyway (via TV revenue) so this way they could set up a NC playoff.

    Sometimes I shock myself with how I figue things out.

  20. packplantpath 09/07/2011 at 11:57 AM #

    We won’t be left out as in “stop playing football”. We will be left out of playing in a conference that matters.

    Look at it this way. Do you want to be in ECU’s situation? They also have a large stadium that sells out. Are they relevant in the big picture? They are less relevant than us, simply because they play in CUSA. That is our future.

  21. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 11:59 AM #

    BJD, do you want to give that much control of the school’s destiny to factions outside of the school. Because basically what you are suggesting is that we beg someone to take us.

  22. GoldenChain 09/07/2011 at 12:00 PM #

    Sorry Plant, not drinking that bug-juice.

  23. ClassOf95 09/07/2011 at 12:03 PM #

    My mental image of this group (aside from the sane GoldenChain) is that you are all fighting over the same computer somewhere in a Butner hospital. You’re all nuttier than squirrel $h!+.

  24. BJD95 09/07/2011 at 12:08 PM #

    Not someone. The SEC.

    I think plant is right. We either do this, or we will essentially become what ECU is now. If you would rather exist that way instead of adapting to the future, that’s your prerogative.

    Was TAMU “nutty” to make a break from Texas?

  25. packplantpath 09/07/2011 at 12:08 PM #

    GC, I actually hope you are right. Unfortunately for us, I’m pretty sure you are wrong.

    What mythical “control” do you think we currently have to give up? We already have very little power in either the conference or TV deals. All we would be doing is changing who controls the puppet strings. If we have to have a puppet master, I want one with money.

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