Are they really going to get away with this?
Davis told reporters last week that the university reviewed the records in the fall of 2010. That’s true, but the university never made copies.
“He didn’t give us the records,†said Nancy Davis. “We hired outside legal counsel to take a look at them, but he retained the records, and he has them now.â€
Nancy Davis said she did not know what the university’s counsel reported back regarding Butch Davis’s personal cell phone records, but it so far has not been tied to any NCAA violation. Thorp said Thursday that there are no new allegations surrounding the cell phone or any other information requested by reporters.
First, UNC didn’t review McAdoo’s paper for plagiarism prior to arguing to the NCAA that the paper was really McAdoo’s work. Now, UNC admits that nobody from the administration or compliance department reviewed Butch’s 216 phone records. They hired “outside counsel” to handle the review. Even worse is that UNC didn’t retain a copy of these records as part of the investigation.
Certainly that didn’t happen on purpose.
Is it standard for phone records to be reviewed by outside legal counsel and not representatives of the university itself in this sort of investigation? If UNC didn’t review McAdoo’s paper and they didn’t review Butch’s cell phone, then what exactly have they reviewed? Was the academic work in question with the cleared players read by UNC’s administration? Were phone records ever reviewed by UNC’s compliance department?
It makes you wonder if the NCAA ever received the 216 phone records or even asked to review them. Instead of the public getting answers in today’s press conference, the limited information we have to deal with is only creating more questions, more reasons to not trust UNC’s leadership, and more reasons for there to be an independent investigation.
Also, it appears that the stories of Butch and UNC are conflicting.
Davis at the ACC Kickoff said:
Davis said he will release his personal cell phone records to the public “very soon,” but did not specify when. Davis said the school has had the records in its possession for months, which he indicated is a sign that there are no significant concerns with them.
UNC spokesman Nancy Davis said today:
“He didn’t give us the records,†said Nancy Davis. “We hired outside legal counsel to take a look at them, but he retained the records, and he has them now.â€
So which is it? Was Butch misleading the media and public with his portrayal of the “review” of his 216 records or is Nancy Davis correct that UNC never had the records in the 1st place?
Certainly, this seems like a point needing clarification.
Why might Butch and UNC hope to avoid the 216 records being released? Because of information like this potentially being found maybe?
Work from a Packpride poster about Blake’s phone records:
Okay, I’ll try and make this as easy to follow as possible…
In looking at the various contacts that Blake had with Marvin Austin, a few numbers/trends started to show up.
One was that Todd Amis, one of Marvin’s old (assistant) high school coaches, would converse with Blake around the same time. Amis, of course, has since been proven to have paid for some of Marvin’s travel expenses — and then been reimbursed by Wichard. He was a go-between for money; there’s not much way around that.However, another Washington, DC number also started to show up a lot. Blake spoke with this number 15 times in 2009, and then 15 more times in 2010. The kicker is that lots of times these conversations were immediately before or after those with Todd Amis, and a phone with Gary Wichard was sure to be nearby, as well.
The address that Waffle posted is the one that is associated with the owner of the number. (the owner of the number is not Adjelegan Lassey, FWIW — but the non-profit organization that someone else listed is, however, associated with the address)
Furthermore, the address associated with this “other” Washington phone… Marvin’s house in D.C. …. and Marvin’s old high school…. are all within five miles of one another.
To help drive the connection home, here are five different dates from 2009: (there’s much more in 2010, by the way — these are the only ones I’ve detailed so far)
We’ll call this “other” D.C. person, who is associated with the Morse Street address, “Chan”.
Date: April 29, 2009
6:56pm — Blake calls Todd Amis — 2 minutes
7:20pm — Blake calls T. Amis — 1 minute
7:24pm — Blake calls “Chan” — 2 minutes
7:28pm — T. Amis calls Blake — 1 minute
7:43pm — S. Pittman calls Blake — 2 minutes
8:33pm — S. Pittman calls Blake — 1 minute
8:37pm — “Chan” calls Blake — 2 minutes
10:57pm — Blake calls “Chan” — 14 minutes
11:18pm — Blake calls Gary Wichard — 5 minutesDate: April 30, 2009
2:57pm — “Chan” calls Blake — 3 minutes
3:02pm — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
3:20pm — Blake calls S. Pittman — 1 minute
5:23pm — Blake calls S. Pittman –1 minute
5:24pm — S. Pittman calls Blake — 7 minutesDate: June 29, 2009
10:17pm — Blake calls G. Wichard — 2 minutes
Date: June 30, 2009
7:25am — Blake calls G. Wichard — 1 minute
1:53pm — Blake calls “Chan” — 3 minutes
1:58pm — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
1:59pm — Blake calls Marvin — 4 minutes
4:40pm — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
4:42pm — Marvin calls Blake — 1 minuteDate: July 21, 2009
8:53am — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
8:54am — Blake calls “Chan” — 1 minute
8:54am — Blake calls T. Amis — 5 minutes
10:00am — Blake calls Marvin — 2 minutes
10:52am — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
12:07pm — T. Amis calls Blake — 1 minute
6:51pm — Blake calls G. Wichard — 1 minuteDate: August 6, 2009
9:32am — Blake calls “Chan” — 2 minutes
9:45am — “Chan” calls Blake — 3 minutes
9:49am — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
10:07am — Blake calls “Chan” — 2 minutes
3:32pm — Blake calls Johnny Vines — 1 minute
4:31pm — Blake calls Johnny Vines — 1 minute
4:33pm — Blake calls Marvin — 1 minute
10:14pm — G. Wichard calls Blake — 1 minute
10:15pm — Blake calls G. Wichard — 8 minutes
10:23pm — Blake calls G. Wichard — 2 minutesSo as you can see — the other D.C. number, associated with “Chan,” seems to show up on the same days that Blake is having a lot of conversations with some combination of Marvin, Todd Amis, and Gary Wichard — and sometimes with Sam Pittman and/or Johnny Vines.
“Chan” is associated with an address that houses a non-profit organization.
This location is within five miles of Marvin’s D.C. house, and Marvin’s old high school.
More information on the above mentioned non-profit organization:
-Location information from www.zillow.com
Another poster made these comments:
Someone at that non-profit shared a group cell phone with Marvin Austin and was in constant talks with Blake and Amis at the same time. Person “X” cell phone was 1-single digit different than Austin’s. Person “X” was another middle man funnelling money it appears and either owns said property or works at “Africa for All Seasons” a non-descript non-profit that was just cited for tax evasion. Lots of smoke that this place was a fraud. You cant make this stuff up. Very interesting.
56-2638178
AFRICA IN ALL SEASONSThis organization’s exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years. Further investigation and due diligence are warranted.
Now, maybe the Packpride posters have it all wrong, there is nothing to these posts, and/or the information is inaccurate. However, message board posters broke the plagiarism story, so just maybe these guys are on to something?
