Reaction the morning after

 

Stewart Mandel, Sports Illustrated

For all the tawdry scandals that have tarnished college football over the past 12 months — from USC to Tennessee, from Cam Newton to Jim Tressel — one can easily argue that the nine major violations levied against Butch Davis’ program Tuesday contain more filth and more blatant disregard for the rule book than any of them.

That task could get a whole lot harder once the Committee gets done nuking his program sometime after its October hearing, and perhaps by then the school will be shamed into making a change. As of today, however, the official stance, as articulated by Chancellor Holden Thorp, is: “We made mistakes, and we have to face that.”

Heather Dinich, ESPN

There were, however, allegations that the “institution” failed to properly monitor the conduct of Chris Hawkins, who was allowed access to the facilities and participated in one-on-one drills with the players. And the “institution” failed to monitor the social networking of the players in 2010. And here’s the kicker … the “institution” did not follow up on information that “indicated a risk of improper benefits being provided when reported by [a student athlete] to administrators within the football program.”

Somebody knew something was going on and “the institution” let it continue.

Dr. Saturday, Rivals

Thus concludes what appears to be the perfect storm of NCAA death: Players got paid, agents were everywhere, players committed academic fraud, coaches, players and tutors alike misled or stonewalled investigators — and there was direct institutional knowledge via Blake, who (according to the NCAA) not only knew but was actively participating in flouting the rules in a way that the last guy the NCAA accused of being a rogue assistant coach, USC scapegoat Todd McNair, never dreamed.

If you’ve been following this case from the beginning, none of those charges are new. But it is eye-opening to see all of them exhaustively detailed in one place for the first time, and there is no escaping the conclusion that the Tar Heels are going to feel the maximum, USC-level pain in response — up to and including a postseason ban and heavy scholarship losses. Institutionally, North Carolina worked hard to distance itself from the worst offenders ingratiate itself as a collaborator in justice when it became aware of the violations, but if the NCAA can’t throw the book at a school that employed an assistant coach it accuses of acting as a runner for an NFL agent, it might as well ditch the rulebook and badges and rename itself the “Basketball Tournament Deposit Association.”

Andrew Jones, Fox Sports

The culture and perception of UNC football certainly have changed, and Davis has failed in how he’s operated the ship. It seems suspect that he would be so grossly let down by the judgment of a close friend of 30 years and by a tutor he paid out of his own pocket.

This isn’t to nail Davis with a guilty stamp. However, it’s hard to look past those situations and relationships while accepting that the most meticulous coach in the ACC, one who is obsessed with the striping on his team’s pants, would be so far out in left field when it came to what Blake and Wiley were doing, not to mention the other charges levied by the NCAA.

And now Chancellor Holden Thorp must ask himself: If Davis didn’t know what was going on, should he have?

 

After a year of telling us how in control they are over at the Flagship, since last Thursday Thorp and Baddour haven’t had much to say, but now they just want us all to know how sorry they are (J.P. Giglio, Charlotte Observer):

UNC Chancellor Holden Thorp, athletics director Dick Baddour and football coach Butch Davis were requested by the NCAA to attend the meeting.

Baddour said the next step for UNC is to prepare a response.

“We’ll go through it in absolute detail,” Baddour said. “Then we’ll make decisions about what we agree with and what we don’t agree with and how we’re going to move forward.”

UNC has gone almost 50 years, spanning to a point-shaving scandal with the men’s basketball program in the 1950s, without incurring what the NCAA defines as a major violation.

“I deeply regret that Carolina is in this position,” Thorp said in a statement released by the school. “We made mistakes, and we have to face that.”

Updates to follow.

UNC Scandal

103 Responses to Reaction the morning after

  1. drgreenhouse 06/22/2011 at 11:12 AM #

    Actually, I think UNC is just trying to earn some “street cred” so that they can join the SEC during the next round of conference expansions.

    The best is yet to come in this scandal…

  2. Prowling Woofie 06/22/2011 at 11:12 AM #

    The worst thing UNC can do is take 90 days to formulate their response to these charges. Yet, due to their supreme arrogance and stonewalling evidenced over the past year, that’s exactly what they will do, giving the NCAA even more time to dig deeper – and hopefully, wider – into the “Stench in the Trench.”

  3. packhammer 06/22/2011 at 11:14 AM #

    Agree story not done yet. Tudor’s effort is to help with the “lets know draw a line and move on” strategy. Won’t work. Too much story left to tell. I predict Butch goes later this summer. Unc will play next season with an acting head coach.

  4. wolfpacker 06/22/2011 at 11:16 AM #

    The FUNNY thing is…THEY NEVER BEAT NC STATE (US) THE ENTIRE TIME THEY WERE CHEATING! LMAO!

    The entire system is a joke. Thorpe is 46 yrs old. Please name me another fine institution in this country that has such seasoned leadership. Take a look at his wiki…then look at other chancellors, his is by far the WEAKEST. Such a fine institution, one would think deserve a chancellor of better quality (you might say more experienced leader). This is especially true when they claim to be ‘almighty’.

    You have to question why thorpe was chosen in the first place. He’s been at unx all his life. He’s blue inside and out and the good thing about this is…he’s willing to look the other way when trouble arises. If unx had gotten a REAL CHANCELLOR, he wouldn’t have overlooked this. Instead, a REAL CHANCELLOR would not allow this blatant disregard for the rules and academics. However, thorpe is claiming that unx athletics will return prominence? He’s not worried about academics, he’s worried about athletics…A TOTAL AND COMPLETE JOKE!

    What’s the purpose of the university? To train athletes or to educate the students? The priorities have been out of line forever and they’ve finally been caught lying, cheating, and stealing.

    Swofford is no better, he’s part of the corruption.

    It’s all in their heads and it’s going to be extremely embarrassing, humiliating, and detrimental to the entire scope of academics and athletics. Why? Because can you imagine that the chancellor has possibly covered up something? He stands behind a coach that is obviously lied to him, the press, and the people of NC. He allowed all of this to go on and act like he had no idea. I wonder where these guys were educated…oh, but then again I know…unc…can you say what a lousy education you got there boy. I thought a university would teach you how to recognize these problems, then again you were too worried about basketball.

    These guys are worse than the thugs they hired to play on their football team.

  5. Lunatic Fringe 06/22/2011 at 11:29 AM #

    I realize that I am in the minority, but I could care less if Davis, Baddour, and Thorpe are still employed at UNC as long as the school gets a suitable punishment for their crimes.

    The UNC fans are supportive as long as they believe he can produce. How long will that last? Davis could not win more than 8 games with paid NFL talent on the team. I personally will take great pleasure in seeing him coach with 5 scholly’s a year, no bowl games, and no TV for 3-4 years.

    Reap what you sow.

  6. Lunatic Fringe 06/22/2011 at 11:31 AM #

    ” 5 less scholly’s a year”

  7. NCSU88 06/22/2011 at 11:37 AM #

    So, at the next UNX- NCSU Football game, what special treat can the fans at CF do to make the most of this debacle? If BMFD is still the head coach, should he receive a standing ovation? Time to start planning this.

  8. Lunatic Fringe 06/22/2011 at 11:41 AM #

    The only problem with no TV for UNC will be that NC State fans out of state cannot share in joy of beating UNC again.

  9. runwiththepack 06/22/2011 at 11:57 AM #

    I hope UNC makes the mistake of keeping Butch (and Baddour), who can serve as constant reminders of what UNC really stands for. This scandal, and especially the way the majority of UNC has responded to it with denial, deflection, etc… serve to show the whole country why NC politics is like “Chicago style” politics. Their “clique” have acquired and maintained control of the state for way too long (see UNC makeup of the UNC BOG).

    The UNC crowd (I’m referring mainly to the alumni) have long treated the state as their serfdom. Their sense of entitlement is often nauseating, although not all UNC alumni are guilty. Unfortunately, they took their political science classes very seriously, placing their agents very effecively in so many places – journalism in particular.

    There is an element of the UNC crowd that has done a great disservice to this state. NC has progressed DESPITE the Chapel Hill crowd. I would compare them to carpetbaggers, with the main difference being that they are generally a “home grown” type of carpetbagger.

    They don’t realize just how LUCKY they were to have Dean Smith. if it weren’t for Dean Smith and his assistants, where would the “UNC brand” be?

  10. wolfpack_83 06/22/2011 at 12:04 PM #

    I’ve said it in the past and I’ll say it again here. Although it’s justified and nice for cheaters to get caught and punished, this doesn’t make me happy as a Wolfpack fan. This tarnishes the University of NC (our sister school), our state, and our conference. UNC will get what they deserve (maybe), but it makes our football rivalry somewhat meaningless for the next several years.

    A sad day for the ACC and Carolina, no doubt. And I don’t take much joy from it. Justice doesn’t always make us happy.

  11. TAEdisonHokie 06/22/2011 at 12:06 PM #

    nseast8 – Here’s what I posted above:

    “Additionally, more allegations may surface over the next 90 days involving Butch Davis’ 216 phone records, and recruiting violations to include getting parents jobs in the Chapel Hill area. I know for a fact several ACC head coaches have come forward over the past year with various complaints about UNC’s recruitment practices.”

    John Blake’s relationship with Robert Prunty, currently the Assistant Coach-Defensive Ends/Outside Linebackers at Texas Tech, and formerly the head football coach at Hargrave, has long been rumored to involve the switching of recruits to UNC for modest sums of money. Let’s put it this way, Prunty had a pretty comfortable lifestyle for being the head coach of a prep school. There is a reason why Prunty abruptly took the job at Texas Tech…it was to put as much space between himself and any possible trouble at UNC.

    As far as the parents of UNC recruits getting jobs in or near Chapel Hill, a certain UNC QB’s dad became the head coach at East Chapel Hill High on the recommendation of Butch Davis whose son was the QB. The father of a prized OL recruit out of Virginia landed a job in Chapel Hill that required a relocation from his well-established job in South Carolina and the acceptance of that job before the recruit committed to UNC. Those are just two examples of the funny business taking place out of the UNC football program…I have more, but my time’s running short today.

  12. old13 06/22/2011 at 12:09 PM #

    I thought that’s what you meant, Bowlpack. But I had thought to clarify that I am not dead! Old, yes. But not dead – yet! :>)

  13. highstick 06/22/2011 at 12:18 PM #

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/729820-usc-football-lane-kiffin-and-usc-lynching-by-tennessee-sec-and-ncaa

    Maybe the folks that can’t figure out about when the LOIC issue comes up might be able to understand it from this article.

    Also, it makes you consider “is the NCAA so tired of this crap, that they make penalties even more severe for failure to monitor”. Butch makes everyone over there look like an idiot and it’s for danged sure that us “Hatefansnation Lunatics” are a helluva lot more perceptive than Thorpe, Baddour, and the UNC BOG. They are truly “dumbarses”!

  14. Hungwolf 06/22/2011 at 12:23 PM #

    Tudor is a terd. He said Butch Davis should be fired last October. Now he basically jumps on board with the UNC crowd becuase he caught so much flack for his article last october. Tudor bleeds Carolina Blue. I got no respect for him.

    Hargrave, jobs, under the table money. Yea, been going on for a long time at the Hill. Bball program very guilty also when it comes to parents, coaches, friends, and family of recruits getting jobs, houses, cars, etc. Hopefully the whole thing will be exposed!

  15. kbrown 06/22/2011 at 12:41 PM #

    It’s funny to me how Carolina fans act in general. TarHeelWire tweeted “at the end of the day, only one school has been cited for LOIC in the triangle”. All you hear is comments from UNCheat about how we are not their rival and why are we so worried about them, yet they continue to bring us up concerning their cheating. “The Carolina Way, where 8-4, a tire bowl appearance, and NCAA Sanctions = job security.

  16. TruthBKnown Returns 06/22/2011 at 12:48 PM #

    TAEdisonHokie, I hope you’re right. Like I’ve said, I don’t know how this process works. I’ve seen comments like yours that are convincing, and I’ve seen comments from others (e.g., choppack here at SFN) that think they’ll get no more than a slap on the wrist. By that, I mean the loss of 2-3 scholarships, vacated wins, etc. That’s just a slap because they can ride out the scholarship losses, and in the end, do they REALLY care that Butch could lose 25 or so wins from the past? If they don’t get any postseason bans, IMO that’s a slap on the wrist.

    You seem to believe LOIC is still a possibility. But I’ve read convincing comments from others that lead me to believe that either LOIC or FTM would specifically be included in the NOA. And it was FTM that they got, not LOIC. And the reason this sounds feasible is because LOIC is not a punishment. It is an allegation. The NCAA would allege that Carolina is guilty of LOIC. Then the punishment would follow.

    I’m afraid MORE allegations will have to surface in the next 90 days in order for them to get the dreaded LOIC.

  17. nseast8 06/22/2011 at 12:59 PM #

    TAEdisonHokie, sorry for missing that part of your post.

  18. WolfBlood 06/22/2011 at 1:41 PM #

    Do you guys think this is going to be over by this Friday, or next Friday?

  19. NCSt8_05 06/22/2011 at 1:45 PM #

    I hope the media continues to look into the license plate issue and continues to pursue the 216 phone records.

  20. coach13 06/22/2011 at 2:01 PM #

    Doesn’t mean they’ll get it but I hope the NCAA at least asks for the 216 phone records. The refusal to submit it upon request would just further go to lack of cooperation.

  21. highstick 06/22/2011 at 2:08 PM #

    Maybe that means we’ll get Bill Friday’s comments by Friday!

  22. Texpack 06/22/2011 at 2:11 PM #

    The key to the severity of the penalties will be whether or not the money funneled to Wiley to pay the tickets can be traced or not. I think Davis is now a bargaining chip.

  23. packhammer 06/22/2011 at 2:15 PM #

    Holy Crap,the NOA is 42 pages long. This thing is not even half way over.

  24. PackManSJP 06/22/2011 at 2:41 PM #

    How can TarHeelWire say that LOIC was found at State during the Valvano case. The NCAA found NO WRONGDOING.

  25. wolfpacker 06/22/2011 at 2:59 PM #

    It’s pretty sad, but true…the next time unx has a LDC – Leadership Development Conference, they can’t have any of the administration be the lead speakers. They’ll have to outsource and find some real talent.

    GO PACK!

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