Wilson: Looking Back & Moving On

Most of this has been written for some time, and was originally intended to be an August continuation of the Cheap Seats Football Retrospective from back in 2009. But while Russell Wilson’s separation from State was official weeks ago, yesterday’s announcement that he’ll leave the Rockies organization and transfer to Wisconsin to play out his remaining eligibility officially ended a year of indecisiveness that has created a rift of sorts among State fans. The timing just seems right now to publish a much-condensed version of the original, put closure on the Russell Wilson era, and move forward with Mike Glennon.

I don’t remember much about Russell Wilson’s recruitment, nor do I recall being all that excited about his potential, beyond the fact that anyone had to be better than Daniel Evans.

Wilson’s introduction to State fans was unremarkable: he completed one pass for 12 yards and was knocked out of the game with a concussion near the end of the first quarter. When that 2008 ESPN Thursday season-opener in Columbia was over, State had been outscored 71-0 in its past two games and a disgruntled fan base was preparing itself for another year — the fifth straight, in fact — without so much as a serviceable quarterback. His next start was two weeks later, at Clemson, where he showed no signs of lighting a fire to State’s anemic offense. He never found any rhythm, completing less than 50% of his 20 passes in a 27-9 loss. He threw his first interception of the season around the midway point of the fourth quarter of that game on September 13, 2008. He threw his next interception at Wake Forest on October 3…

2009.

Beginning sometime during the second half of the overtime win over #15 ECU, Wilson began a three-year stretch at State that was, simply, stellar. As a freshman in 2008, he had an ACC-best passer rating of 133.9 and led the conference in total yards per game (213); completed 54.5% of his passes with 1,955 yards and 17 touchdowns; and rushed for 395 yards and four touchdowns. His performance earned him ACC Rookie of the Year and First Team All ACC honors.

He piloted an offense that was both highly effective and efficient in the red zone, and he was largely the reason State was able to overcome a 2-6 record and receive an invite to the PapaJohns.com Bowl in Birmingham. His true value was indeed revealed in the second half of that game, after he left with a sprained knee and a 17-6 halftime lead. In Wilson’s place, Harrison Beck and Daniel Evans (combined) completed only five of 16 passes and somehow managed three drive-killing interceptions deep in Rutgers territory, at the 32, 20, and one yard lines. The offense stalled without Wilson and State lost 29-23 to finish the season with a losing record (6-7).

In 2009 his passer rating actually improved to 147.8, and he completed 59.3% of his passes for 3,027 yards with 31 touchdowns; he rushed for 260 yards and four touchdowns. But after his interception-free streak ended at Wake Forest in the fifth game of the season, he threw 11 picks over the next seven games (only 15 touchdowns). He had five games where he threw at least four touchdowns, but, similar to 2003, State’s defense simply wasn’t giving its offense the chance to win games, and State finished the season at 5-7.

2010 seemed like a down year for Wilson, as his passer rating fell to 127.5, but he completed 58.4% of his passes for 3,563 yards with 28 touchdowns and 14 interceptions; he rushed for 435 yards and nine touchdowns. The Virginia Tech loss is when many of us grew frustrated that he was forcing passes in situations he’d escaped so many times in the past, but after that three game stretch in October — Virginia Tech, Boston College, at East Carolina — where he threw only seven touchdowns and eight of his 14 interceptions, he actually slipped neatly back into his 2009 form, with no more than a single interception in the remaining six games. Arguably, his best performance was against West Virginia in the Champs Sports Bowl (which most of us expected was his last at State), and State finished the season 9-4.

Statistically, Wilson left State as a better quarterback than Jamie Barnette but nowhere near as awesome as Philip Rivers. With 8,545 passing yards in three seasons, he likely would’ve overtaken Barnette’s passing total (9,461) but would’ve needed 4,940 yards to pass Philip (13,484) — unrealistic at best. However, with 76 passing and 15 rushing touchdowns, he would’ve had a legitimate shot to pass Philip in both categories (95 and 112, respectively).

Perhaps Wilson’s most important contribution to his legacy was that he never lost to Carolina: in three games against them (41-10, 28-27, 29-25), Wilson completed 62% of his passes for 701 yards with eight touchdowns and only a single interception. In fact, two different plays on a single drive in the 2010 game at Kenan proved a microcosm of Carolina’s struggles to contain Wilson: first, trailing late in the third quarter with the drive stalling out, on third-and-18 Wilson broke off a 34-yard run before Quinton Coples was penalized for a late hit clearly meant to take Wilson out of the game (1:33 mark); then just four plays later, on fourth-and-goal from the two, Wilson scrambled under pressure and lofted a desperate pass (while falling off-balance around the 20) that was tipped into Owen Spencer’s hands for a touchdown (2:13 mark).

For three years, Wilson was exactly the type of guy we wanted leading our team. He was a great playmaker, an incredible athlete, and a fine representative of this great University. It’s tough to fault a guy like Wilson for wanting to pursue his dream to be a two-sport star. But in that pursuit, it’s possible that his partial commitment to two different sports may in fact prove detrimental to his success beyond college at either, and that’s the real shame.

I wish Wilson nothing but success at Wisconsin, where his ceiling, as well as the opportunity to showcase his talent, is undoubtedly much higher than in Raleigh, especially considering Wisconsin is a favorite to win the Big Ten and play in the Rose Bowl. Good for him. No doubt his new fans will enjoy watching him as much as we did for three years, but I’m just not interested in previewing his situation in Madison.

And, without knowing the full context and details of his departure, I support TOB’s decision to move forward with Mike Glennon in 2011. Ever the pessimist, by no means am I suggesting Glennon will be a better quarterback — he hasn’t proven anything to me yet. I liked Wilson and hated to see him go, especially the way he left. But, I truly believe that if Wilson really wanted to be at State this year, he would have committed to this team, and could have been here. But for whatever reason, he didn’t, and he isn’t.

So it’s time to move on: Wilson is a Badger and this is now Mike Glennon’s team.

No pressure, huh?

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28 Responses to Wilson: Looking Back & Moving On

  1. timswar 06/28/2011 at 8:05 AM #

    I hope he does well at Wisconsin, and will gladly cheer for him if I ever see him on TV. Although I still think Wisconsin missed an opportunity a few years ago by not getting the entire stadium bouncing up and down while playing the BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER… song.

  2. SMD 06/28/2011 at 8:09 AM #

    While I think it’s clear that most of us would have wanted RW in spring practice and leading this team, it needs to be pointed out that last year he was somewhat up and down.

    I have been told there were a few games where the coaching staff graded him out very harshly and actually toyed with the idea of benching him. As great as RW was once he got his football legs back, clearly the attempt at two sports made him less successful than he could have been. And that’s saying something since clearly, overall, he was successful!

    I stand fully behind TOB’s decision. You can’t ever put the individual ahead of the team, ESPECIALLY in football.

    I could be totally wrong, but my gut is telling me that we’ll be fine under Glennon. And I never had that feeling when Jay Davis succeeded Rivers.

  3. codebrown 06/28/2011 at 8:15 AM #

    One thing is undoubtedly certain, Mike Glennon is not going to play baseball. That fact alone, makes me like Mike Glennon better right now. Again, if RW is not wearing a State jersey on Saturdays, I could give a rat’s ass about what he does.

  4. TeufelWolf 06/28/2011 at 8:19 AM #

    It’s unfortunate the way it ended. I wish RW good luck. I hope he achieves his dream of playing pro ball. I will still pull for RW, especially in the pros (IF), but this by no means makes me a Wisconsin fan. He didn’t want to commit to the Pack and TOB unemotionally moved on like he should have. Glennon will be as good as Major Tom says he is. I say this because if there is anything that TOB has been to this fan base, it’s brutally honest. He has never hesitated to tell us when we sucked or we had a bad practice or we were behind schedule or we didn’t play well. The only real question then is, “can the O-line keep Glennon healthy?” What I am not ready to see it Brosius in there. If they CAN indeed keep him on the field, the HE will make the receivers good. Mustafa will be more “MOOSE” than last year, and the team will lean on the workhorses like Gentry and Bryan to keep the chains moving.

    Just like last year, my favorite players will be on the other side of the ball. The secondary is somewhat young but they are all experienced with Bishop, Byers, Wilson and Byrd. The line is SOLID; Sweezy, Kuhn, Lemon, Cato-Bishop, Reiskamp. And last but CERTAINLY not least, Cole and Manning are going to be ridiculous –crushing skulls and leaving a trail of disfigured bodies in their wake.

    Let’s just hope we never have to punt. We could do an entire article on that abortion.

    *Disclaimer: please don’t crucify me if I didn’t mention your favorite player, those names are off the top of my head and I’m in Afghanistan for the next year.
    GO PACK!

  5. Plz2BStateFan 06/28/2011 at 8:22 AM #

    I worry about the national media turning this story towards Big Ten > ACC. Wilson keeps mentioning big time football and I read a column who is using it to crap on ACC football. However, my main concern is this thread evolves to paint NC State in a negative light. All you have to do is not mention how baseball and footbal conflicted and the general public will assume that he left NC State because he didnt want to be at NC State and wanted to play real football.

    Watch out for this narrative to unfold. We all know how much the national media loves us.

  6. lawful 06/28/2011 at 8:40 AM #

    I don’t particularly care about what the national media says. It has no bearing on wins and losses. Let them talk. As for indecision, I feel like that’s been going on since the day he walked on campus, not that that’s an issue. We’ve had plenty of two sport athletes. It’s too bad that in the end, one adversely affected the other.

  7. Texpack 06/28/2011 at 8:54 AM #

    I’ll be surprised if Russell Wilson isn’t in New York as a Heisman Finalist. Playing behind a Wisconsin OL and benefiting from the media attention that Big Ten football always gets will turn him into this year’s media darling.

    I understand TOB’s move completely. I think he made the right decision based on the information he had at the time. I also can’t blame Russell Wilson for pursuing baseball, especially given the money involved. I’m not looking forward to the season long whine fest from the portion of the fan base that can’t move on and just deal with what has happened. Here’s hoping we play the Badgers in a BCS game.

  8. GApack04 06/28/2011 at 9:21 AM #

    ^ Texpack I may be wrong but imo no way he makes a push for the Heisman. RW will be very successful in Madison and will probably win more games than he would have in Raleigh. But I just don’t see how he could put up better numbers than he would have in Raleigh. Wisconsin will still run the football first and foremost. I have no clue about Wisconsin’s WRs and TEs, but I do know they do not sling the ball all over the field. Also their O does not use a ton of shotgun so how he adjusts or how the O adjusts will be interesting. I could be wrong and RW might light the world on fire and win the Heisman and win a NC, but I’m doubtful. No matter what happens I will keep an eye on his season from afar.

  9. WolfBlood 06/28/2011 at 9:21 AM #

    Good luck Russell, I wish him the best.

    Speaking of National attention and media…..why cant Rivers EVER give State any kind of props on tv? He never wears a State hat in the locker room, or a State t-shirt, or anything. Why cant he come back for the Spring Game like Mario does. He gives us no attention either on tv or returning to games.

    This fan base loves him and thinks he walks on water and he barely acknowledges us.

  10. bradleyb123 06/28/2011 at 9:24 AM #

    Even though TOB did what he had to do regarding Russell, I still hate to see him finishing out his football career somewhere else.

    If only TOB could have known he would be ready for such an early return, Russ might still be here at State.

  11. GApack04 06/28/2011 at 9:26 AM #

    Just FYI, Wisconsin’s QB last year (Scott Tolzien) had 266 pass attempts. RW had 527. I’m sure they will pass more with RW, but not that MUCH more. RW is a volume passer so if his attempts decline then his stats should decline also.

  12. Prowling Woofie 06/28/2011 at 10:09 AM #

    I’m sure Wisconsin is as happy to have Russell as he is to be playing again… Tolzien was a tremendous young man and leader, much as Russell is/was for the Pack. He’ll step into a void for them, at least in a leadership capacity. Hope he has a good season.

  13. lawful 06/28/2011 at 10:24 AM #

    Based on your numbers GA, that’s about 20 passes/game. No real news there. Wisconsin is and always has been run first, run second, and throw a pass if we have to. Heck, if RW is throwing, it’s probably b/c he’ll have to and everyone will know it which may lead to more running on his part. Heisman contender? Seriously? Has there ever been a QB heisman contender there? I don’t see RW’s time there as any help for an NFL career…CFL at best.

    We made the right move. We now have a QB for 2 years instead of 1.

  14. packhammer 06/28/2011 at 11:53 AM #

    WolfBlood, I do not know if the story is true or not but it is said that Rivers reacted very negatively to the firing of Amato, and has been cool toward the school ever since. My own feeling is just that he’s on the West Coast, has something like 5 kids, is trying to be a great NFL quarterback, and is basically really busy and has moved on at least for right now. I too wish he would show us a little love, and that may yet come a little further down the road. He is on the bloody ring of honor at Carter-Finley after all.

  15. NCSU12DDR 06/28/2011 at 12:21 PM #

    I feel the same way packhammer. Maybe Phillip will start showing up to spring game and such once he is older and not in the prime of his NFL career. I don’t remember Torry Holt ever showing up to the spring game until he got older. Mario Williams is a special case. I’ve seen him at basketball games (sat 5 feet away from the pep band once) and I think he loves Raleigh and NC State. Have you been to Houston, its awful. Can’t say that about San Diego, which is a great city. Phillip became somewhat of a douche once he went to the NFL, so I don’t really care if he makes appearances at stuff like the spring game. I just hope Nate Irving (easily my favorite recent player) makes an annual visit.

  16. LRM 06/28/2011 at 12:37 PM #

    I think far too much has been read into Philip not coming back. He lives 2,500 miles away and has 247120789 kids, and his family is all in Alabama. Not to mention the only way he works every weekend during the season. Roman Gabriel said it was over 30 years before he ever came back.

    Doesn’t Mario Williams live in Morrisville during the offseason?

  17. TeufelWolf 06/28/2011 at 1:24 PM #

    Funny, I’ve been following Philip all these years — he helped me win my fantasy league two years ago even — and I haven’t noticed his transformation into a douche. If we’re referring to the spat he had with Cutler, then I believe that there is plenty of evidence (then and now) to support Cutler indeed being a massive douche. As far as him coming back and showing the Pack some love, yeah I wish he’d do it more, but I assume he’s across the country trying to get the Chargers over that hump and trying to get a ring like two other QBs from the 2004 draft. I’ll be a little harder on him if he doesn’t come back after his career; but for now I’ll cut him some slack.

    At least he doesn’t shout out “Miami Killian High School” like Stephen Tulloch durning the intros.

  18. JSRy2k 06/28/2011 at 1:46 PM #

    The upside (for those with intelligence to read into it – ahem, national media):
    Wilson came in to a mediocre program as a ‘mediocre’ prospect (2 stars) and TOB and Co. coached him up to the point that he lands with the class of the Big Ten after also seriously considering the defending national champs.

  19. Asclepios 06/28/2011 at 5:41 PM #

    Shocker. We’re a mediocre program in a mediocre conference. I could give a rat’s ass if he does well or not. Frankly, the rest of the country will give a rat’s ass if he came from NCSU if he wins the Heisman or Rose Bowl MVP. I’m not suddenly going to pull for the Badger’s, give me a break.

  20. whitefang 06/28/2011 at 5:57 PM #

    “Wilson came in to a mediocre program as a ‘mediocre’ prospect (2 stars) and TOB and Co. coached him up to the point…”
    EXACTLY. QB goes from mediocre to star in a couple of games. I will miss RW, but am excited by what MG can do as he IS a prototypical QB being coached by the staff who took a non-proto and found a way to turn him into a POY candidate. TOB’s track record at taking an actual prototypical QB out of high school (Matt Ryan) working with him a couple of years and making a damn good college QB out of him ain’t too shabby.

  21. choppack1 06/28/2011 at 8:40 PM #

    Count me as one who hopes that RW has a good run, but I hope that he doesn’t do as well as Glennon and I hope that Wisconsin doesn’t do as well as State.

    I read something the other day trying to say that Glennon was the selfish one in all this. It was a reminder of how insane a place the internet can be. All Glennon has done is dedicate himself to the NC State program year round the last 3.5 years – and some “fans” think that. OTOH, RW basically has been able to do what RW wanted to do the last 4.5 years. The football staff bent over backwards to accomidate him the spring of his freshman year. His RS year – our staff basically threw away a sure bowl win to insure that he didn’t do any structural damage towards his knee.

    I’m not saying that RW is wrong to make the decision he made. As individuals we all have the right to act in our own self-interest. However, it hurt me to hear him say, “I’m happy to be a badger and be a part of their family.”

    Plz2B brings up a good point. Watch for the “State is evil” narrative to emerge here. Hell, SI did it when Sendek let Damien Wilkins go.

    I’m not saying I wish Wilson luck at Wisconsin – because quite frankly, I hope that they win less games than us. I hope he throws less TDs and more INTs than Glennon. I hope his offense scores less points than ours. I hope his team goes to a lousier bowl game. None of those things are likely, but that’s how I feel.

  22. Wolfman 9806 06/28/2011 at 9:09 PM #

    I hope that he has taken his education seriously because it doesn’t appear that either pro football or baseball is in his future. His ceiling appears to be a very good college athlete. As far as playing for Wisc goes, how much can he really contribute to another program with just one year of eligibility? I just can’t see him having a Cam Newton type impact. I also doubt that he is going to receive better coaching than he has with our staff. What was a really great career at State will now have a weird footnote in the history books. Oh well, good luck RW (I guess).

  23. drgreenhouse 06/28/2011 at 11:11 PM #

    Throughout the whole ordeal, the question that I have wondered is why did the Rockies draft him in the 4th round?

    Glennon is going to be a good-great quarterback for us the next couple of years. If the curse of the Wolfpack happens, that is no reflection on Glennon or our coaching staff.

    Russell Wilson is a NCSU graduate and he is getting the opportunity to pursue an advanced degree at a good school. Many other college students get their master’s degree from a different school.

    There is one way to change the perception for Wolfpack athletics, that is to just win, baby!

  24. TeufelWolf 06/29/2011 at 3:04 AM #

    I wish RW luck. I’d like to see him play pro ball not because of what it would do for us but because despite the situation, he’s a decent-seeming guy. He’s certainly better than your average high-profile complete son of a bitch that comes out of USC, Miami, OSU, UNC, etc… If anyone is going to sign a big contract, I’d rather see a decent person do it — like RW. Just like when Tim Tebow was playing. I wasn’t a Flordia fan, but I was kind routing for him because he wasn’t a jackass like most everyone else. I’m not going to really care how Wisconsin does. If they do good and are in the Championship game against someone I don’t have a vested interest in, RW will probably slightly tip the scales for me and make me pull for them. Otherwise, I couldn’t care less. The thing is, I’d pull for Wisconsin against most of their opponents anyway. However, if they were to play State in anyway, I wouldn’t be conflicted in the least. If you are, then I guess I don’t understand your being a State fan in the first place (it’s like people that pull for UNC as long as they aren’t playing State — get out of here with that BS) I guess what I’m trying to say now that RW is playing for UW then I’m only slightly more interested in how they do. I’m not mad at RW for his decision. He was in a tough spot. I’m not mad at TOB for his decision. Infact, I think he made the right on for the team and the program. Despite what Heather Dinich thinks, I think that TOB is going to put a solid team on the field this year. Even though I’ll be in Afghanistan, I’m pumped!

  25. JSRy2k 06/29/2011 at 3:30 PM #

    Teufel, if you are in our armed forces then thank you for your service to our country (and if you’re not, God bless you anyway). It is in large part because of the bravery of our service men and women that we can do silly things like interact in football conversations as well as enjoy many other, even more important, freedoms.

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