Gottfried begins ‘second act’

I saw this article on Rivals.com and then noticed that Backing the Pack had covered it a little. So, we’ll throw you that way with BackingthePack’s set up, “This feature from Rivals covers a lot of territory with which we’re all very familiar. It even includes a handy breakdown of State’s win-loss records since 1991. Instinctively I reached for my television remote and eyed the nearest window. Old habits and all that. (As of this writing I’ve yet to go through with the defenestration.)”

“It’s a program that has the potential to be as good as anybody in the country,” he says. “That’s the way I’ve always viewed it. Since I’ve been here, I think those things have been confirmed. I think we can be as good as anybody. There’s no inherent reason why North Carolina State can’t at some point in time be as good as anybody in the country.”

Gottfried’s words should boost the confidence of a fan base that took plenty of hits during this coaching search. Although North Carolina State won national titles in 1974 under Norm Sloan and 1983 under Jim Valvano, the Wolfpack’s recent struggles have led to debate over how good a job this is. Skeptics argue that the tremendous success of neighboring rivals Duke and North Carolina gives NC State fans unrealistic expectations.

“People might say sometimes that it’s a hard job,” Gottfried says. “Show me an easy job. I don’t care where it is. I don’t know if there is an easy job. Everything’s relative. For us, where we’re located is an advantage. It’s a plus. It’s something we’ll never view as a negative.”

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35 Responses to Gottfried begins ‘second act’

  1. packalum44 06/26/2011 at 7:37 PM #

    ^ I just think Lowe’s a lazy dumba** (relative to most people who make 7 digits). So is my eldest sister. So what.

    Lowe’s role on the 83′ team is the SOLE reason he even got a 7 digit gig. But let’s not kid our-self, without Valvano coaching that group we don’t even make the dance. He was much more irreplaceable than Lowe.

    To Summarize:
    Do I like Lowe as a person? Yes. Would I like to have a beer with him? Yes. Do I think he’s a lazy dumba**? Yes. Would I tell him to his face? No. Would he care what I though? No. What’s he doing with the $5 million he made the past few years? IDK.

  2. ryebread 06/26/2011 at 8:01 PM #

    packalum44: You may be right about SL’s intelligence and work ethic. I’ve spent any real time with him, so I can’t comment on his intelligence or work ethic.

    I personally believe that he understands basketball and I base that from comments from V (coach on the floor) as well as some of the comments I’ve read about his NBA interviews (knows what to do in every situation). I believe that knowledge of the game is what kept him in coaching in the NBA despite to horrendous head coaching gigs. I personally think the NBA has the ability and money to hire the best basketball minds as assistants.

    That doesn’t necessarily translate to overall intelligence though and I think that is what you’re pointing out. It also doesn’t speak to work ethic. Obviously there were several gaps (the results speak for themselves) and maybe those were it.

    My original point about Gott though is totally separate. It was more about the nature of relationships. I remember so many “he gets it” comments about SL when he was the new coach, just as a I remember the “waiting until he has his players” comments about HWSNBN. It’s human nature. I just want us to keep our expectations in check.

  3. packalum44 06/26/2011 at 8:05 PM #

  4. mak4dpak 06/26/2011 at 10:26 PM #

    I’ll remember Lowe for helping us win a nation championship is ’83’, but what he did with the program as a coach, is something I want to forget, and if the excuse is a botched hire, then that too is saying he is not a head coach. Time for a new era in Men’s BB, with Gottfried. 5 years of shame and misery is more than enough! And speaking of botched hires, we sure look mighty dumb for allowing Ray Tannner to head to USC. How many CWS appearances have they made, and are the reigning champs, and could win it again. Duhhhhh!

  5. sundropdrinker13 06/26/2011 at 11:12 PM #

    ryebread, no one reviles Lowe. People were just fed up with his results. Even if we hadn’t gotten Miller instead of Gott, if Miller hadn’t produced in 5 years then people would be doing and saying the same stuff about him as they are Lowe. I don’t know the man, watched maybe 3-4 games in the 5 years, and we were always ahead by quite a bit, then we still lost the damned thing. Lowe’s record speaks for itself. Also remember, even if you are smart, if you don’t know how to apply it then your smarts mean nothing. Lowe just could never apply anything to a team. If he could have, then his record would have been better, especially his last year. And that is why he is a career assistant. Or should be anyway. Not trying to take anything away from the man, but you can’t stick a square peg into a round hole.

  6. Master 06/27/2011 at 9:34 AM #

    I was looking forward to reading a thread about our new coach. What I got was yet another rehash of our previous coach’s performance.

    Why? I guess its just so much easier for the primary inhabitants of this site to take a road to negativity instead of looking foward to an optimistic future.

  7. albunde6 06/27/2011 at 10:15 AM #

    Couple of quick points. So because I “can’t synthesize a methylated alkaloid” then I qualify as a “dumba__”?

    Never heard an interview with SL that reflected a lowe IQ. Basketball is not open heart surgery, world does not stop turning when we los e, doesn’t speed up when we win. PERSPECTVE, try to get some.

    Back to the subject of post, glad we are getting some positive coverage from the national media on Gott recruits. High profile programs use the media to market the brand. They use the opportunity to build image. Hopefully this will assist with recruits.

    However, if he does not win 20 games next year “off with his head”, “just kidding”.

  8. lawful 06/27/2011 at 10:35 AM #

    I think Lowe’s downfall was that he was too busy trying to be their friend and not their coach. Isn’t that more of an NBA mentality?

  9. TeufelWolf 06/29/2011 at 9:34 AM #

    I don’t recall any interview I’ve heard with SL that he came across as an idiot. In fact I always thought he spoke rather well. I don’t think the argument that he was lazy or stupid holds much water. I also don’t care what he salary he made, because it had nothing to do with me to complain about that seems a little like petty jealousy. That being said, he didn’t produce very good results and that’s indisputable. It was and is time to move on…almost… Let’s not forget he IS a member of the Wolfpack family on a team that produced memories that still inspire people in all sports today. He was a part of something iconic, not just for NC State but for all of college sports, hell, sports in general – hell, life in general. To not still see him as a welcome member of the family is absolutely absurd and childish. He tried, he failed. Don’t kick him when he’s down – just move on. I would honestly be ashamed as a State fan if he didn’t get a warm welcome when he returns to Raleigh.

    Speaking of moving on… I like the things Gottfried has to say. I’d love to see a team that plays defense and “runs” the court. I think he and his staff are an instant improvement. I like what his old players have to say about him and I like that he has created a recruiting buzz about NC State. Hopefully, his time off did him some good – he certainly sells the idea very well. I have no cause for complaints about Gott and staff. Considering the situation, I feel like he’s a quality hire.

  10. TruthBKnown Returns 06/29/2011 at 9:41 AM #

    Here’s my take on Sidney Lowe: He’s gone. There’s no more need to bash him. We’re all aware of what he did here. But there’s nothing wrong with giving him credit for one thing he did — bring in the good core of players that we have now. He got us in the conversation for some of the top-ranked players.

    I’m not here to sing his praises. I just think there’s no longer any point in bashing him now that he’s gone. He’s still “one of ours” and he won us a national championship as a player. The least we can do is not bash him. He loved this university and wanted to win as much or more than any of us wanted him to win.

    I’m as glad as anyone that he’s gone. But shouldn’t we just let him go? What purpose is served by needlessly bashing the man?

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