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10-11 Basketball100

Random comments —-

9:10pm

* I’ve gotten to the point that I get frustrated when I see Javi on the floor in a starting role. I recognize this is Ryan Harrow’s first road ACC game…but I can’t help it.

* CJ Leslie sure does love to shoot. I wonder if it would be best to limit him to shoot only when he gets an offensive rebound.

* We don’t seem to be boxing out on the defensive boards. Same old, same old. Even a friggin missed free throw leads to a free three pointer for BC.

* Boston College 10 NC State 4

* This is par for the course for our performance when Javi is in the game compared to Harrow. Don’t know how many mathematical analysis need to be run to prove the point.

9:18pm
* Boston College 12 NC State 9

* Pack settling in a little getting the ball to Tracy Smith in the post. Misses BOTH free throws. MUST convert the ‘little things’ on the road tonight.

* Harrow gets in with 14:30 to go in the half with BC leading 12-9

9:30
* Looking like complete crap. Can’t throw the ball in the ocean from the pier.

* Trailing 24-13 with 7:16 in the first half.

9:45pm: BOSTON COLLEGE 28 NC STATE 26 (HALFTIME)
* Fast first half because the refs didn’t blow many whistles.

* Wolfpack heated up in last 7 minutes as Tracy Smith hit four in a row after missing his first four shots.

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Second Half Comment
Thank God we have Ryan Harrow!!! So he can sit on the bench and watch Javi’s presence dig us as deep of a hole on the court as possible!

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10-11 Basketball

100 Responses to @ Boston College open entry

  1. tuckerdorm1983 01/11/2011 at 11:45 PM #

    38 mins per game to Harrow, Brown and Leslie. Screw it. Javi has no business on the court except to give harrow a rest. Howell is pretty good but no rebounder like Leslie. 38 mins per game for Wood, Harrow, Brown, Leslie and Smith. They only come out for injuries or rest. Lowe got out coached by an Ivy League chump!!!!1

  2. choppack1 01/11/2011 at 11:46 PM #

    tvp1 – so – you’ve got Harrow who led you back from a deficit almost single-handedly he falls asleep on ONE possession. So Lowe brings his senior – you know the guy who has had 4 years of his teaching. He promptly loses track of the shot clock and is forced to hurl up a 30 footer.

    Next offensive set, he loses his man.

    The next series, your other player who has been tutored by this staff for 4 years – makes a crappy pass into traffic for a turnover.

    State fans should play the lottery – we’ve got a better chance of winning than Lowe does of properly preparing and motivating a team over the course of 16 games. Because if we make the tourney, it will be a miracle.

  3. lush 01/11/2011 at 11:48 PM #

    Imagine this game if we switch coaches.

  4. tvp1 01/11/2011 at 11:48 PM #

    Harrow lost his man several times in the game.

    I’m not defending the Lowe era as a whole, people. I’m just saying the “We lost the game because Sid put Javi in” doesn’t pass the smell test.

  5. choppack1 01/11/2011 at 11:50 PM #

    Posted January 10th, 2011 at 7:21 pm:

    “The probably isn’t our opponents, it’s us (us being the NC State basketball team.)

    I suspect BC will have plenty of good open looks. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we defend them well.

    History has shown that this is the exacty kind of game that has kept us off the NCAA bubble. We’re playing a very beatable team on the road. These are games an NCAA tourney team has to have.”

  6. imawolf 01/11/2011 at 11:51 PM #

    The chemistry did fall apart once javi was in the game……. I went nuts when he went on the floor……… I could not believe what I was seeing.

  7. Prowling Woofie 01/11/2011 at 11:52 PM #

    With another loss to a top-50 team, the Pack is now 0-5 against such opponents this season. Turn out the lights – the season’s over !

    Forget the NCAA – it ain’t gonna happen, and nothing else is relevant.

    No reason to have Javi on the court. Clearly the team plays better when Harrow is running the show. For that matter, no reason to have Lowe on the court, either…

  8. Packfan28 01/11/2011 at 11:52 PM #

    The smell test? Are you fricking kidding? He was our best player in the 2nd half, defensive lapses or not. He singlehandedly brought us back into the game.

  9. Wolfy__79 01/11/2011 at 11:54 PM #

    i didn’t care for much of the game but before you go giving the opposing coach too much credit he called two time outs in the last 2 miniutes which didn’t hurt them but did allow an oppurtunity for us to get together. they already had the game in hand with the ball and this happened twice.

  10. choppack1 01/11/2011 at 11:57 PM #

    “Harrow lost his man several times in the game.

    I’m not defending the Lowe era as a whole, people. I’m just saying the “We lost the game because Sid put Javi in” doesn’t pass the smell test.”

    Of course, I could could counter by asking what the score was when Javi replaced Harrow – and what the score was when Javi left about 45 seconds later.

    But in general, I agree – we lost this game because Javi and Tracy Smith have played for 4 years under Lowe.

    Lowe did the same thing last year vs. Arizona. After Vandenberg was getting some meaningful minutes, he put in Painter – who promptly lost his man on D and the committed a mistake on offense.

    His situational awareness sucks – and because his team is usually ill-prepared – from both a conditioning perspective and from a mental perspective – his teams are usually behind/struggling to hold onto a lead AND tired. So he kind of has to bring in someone – and like the person they are replacing – they won’t play fundamentally sound D, nor will they be well-prepared, and they’ll probably be stiff from sitting on the bench for 10 minutes.

  11. Wolfy__79 01/11/2011 at 11:58 PM #

    watching the game it reminded me of how we played in greensboro last week. the difference was tonight there was more of an offensive threat with the jackson kid. reminded me alot of mclinton or however you spell it for miami. at times we were playing fair 1v1 defense but rarely as a whole? i’m not throwing the towel in but this hurts!

  12. LarryWorsley 01/11/2011 at 11:58 PM #

    Javi would be my 12th man.

  13. BJD95 01/11/2011 at 11:59 PM #

    Every time I clicked to this game for a few minutes, the play was so rancid and ugly (both teams, but especially us) my eyes started to burn. So, I kept going back to DVD of “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” (season 3).

    I chose wisely. I may watch about 30 minutes combined in our ACC games this season. There’s simply no point as long as our version of Clyde Drexler is holding the “whistle.”

    Thank God Debbie Yow is here. My blood pressure would be through the roof if Fowler were still hanging around.

  14. 61Packer 01/12/2011 at 12:01 AM #

    Javi didn’t cost us this game nearly as much as Lee Fowler did.

  15. Wolfy__79 01/12/2011 at 12:01 AM #

    i don’t see the individual effort lacking as much as i see the lapses in team defense. and yes, javi’s lapses in concentration.

  16. whope90 01/12/2011 at 12:03 AM #

    In college basketball, it is coaching, coaching,coaching and after five years, we still do not have a coach, but BC does, when will we ever learn?

    Here are some examples from this game:

    Your best player, tracy smith is rested for nearly 8-10 minutes and does not come back in until the 8-9 minute mark? Why?

    Your senior point guard comes in after your star freshman guard scores 10 straight points to get you back in and blows a shot clock violation?

    Your defense gets beat again and againon dribble,dribble penetration from a guard???

    Your starting line up should always include or be made up of your best players, regardless of whether your coaching in the college level or nba and do not need to be play themselves into shape:

    Tracy smith, cj leslie, r harrow, l brown, and scott wood. Then only when they are about dead should javi g or r howell should come in. besides, why did r howell play so much?

    Now we are 11-5 and 1-1 in the acc and go to flo state and duke at home. we need to win both to get a smell of a chance at the ncaa’s. Tonight is when a good coach steals a win,bcs, while a bad one,ours, lost a game.

    College basketball is about coaching and we have not had one in a while since the days of V!

    Hey coach, you do realize it is college on not the pros where you can coast for a few games. In college, you only have a few games per year to get to the ncaa’s. Jim Valvano said it best: you need to get to 20 wins and a 500 plus record in conference play and start the season 12-1 against cream puffs to get to the magical 20 wins prior to acc t.

    I mean, did sidney not learn from V?

    As Lucy would say to Charle Brown, Charle Brown, your simply hopeless, simply hopeless: i guess she was talking about el sid!!

    How many days to football season????

  17. RedRiver 01/12/2011 at 12:03 AM #

    Puthetic. A few flashes of what we could be, but way to much of the same old same old. P*** poor defense and way too many bad offensive decisions. It is obvious to me at least that this team was completely unprepared for the task at hand. I really don’t see how coach Lowe can defend tonights performance.

  18. JeremyH 01/12/2011 at 12:05 AM #

    In case anyone forgot, we win this game under a different coach.

  19. Baccapacker 01/12/2011 at 12:09 AM #

    My buddies and I were watching the game and our comments were about the same as on here; another well played game followed by a flat out dud like you see from Lowe teams every year, absolutely no fundamental D and erratic substitutions where he takes out the hot hand. I’m sick and tired of watching this team blow these games where they have a clear talent advantage and tired of seeing zero consistency from game to game.

  20. choppack1 01/12/2011 at 12:11 AM #

    I think Les Robinson could have beaten BC tonight w/ Lowe’s players.

    There I said it – (Anyone’s who is familiar w/ my thoughts on the Les Robinson era understands that this is the equivalent of a lifelong northern Democrat saying he’d rather “W” than the current president.)

  21. choppack1 01/12/2011 at 12:14 AM #

    “i don’t see the individual effort lacking as much as i see the lapses in team defense. ”

    It’s funny/sad how often those lapses occur isn’t it? I mean, you’re asked to pay full attention for 35 total seconds – who can expect that?

    I say this w/ 100% confidence:

    There are more than 50 coaches in America who could correct those lapses in 4 Plus seasons.

  22. lush 01/12/2011 at 12:16 AM #

    I think anyone could win with these players.

    It doesn’t matter if we have the top 5 recruits in the country, this coaching staff is incompetent.

  23. lush 01/12/2011 at 12:18 AM #

    How funny would it be for us to fire sid for cause while butchy still runs the fball factory at unc.

  24. OldWuf 01/12/2011 at 12:22 AM #

    Sid may have this team playing better in March but it’ll be too late. No NCAA’s for us. You gotta win conference road games against mediocre teams.

  25. ryebread 01/12/2011 at 12:23 AM #

    choppack: I’ve made some similar comparisons in years past to Les Robinson coached teams. It wasn’t quite that bad tonight, but it sure wasn’t pretty either.

    I predicted a loss tonight. Everyone (players, fans and coaches) were too high after beating WF — which was just an awful team. We weren’t mentally ready and it showed — particularly on the defensive end. We just could not get critical stops when we needed them.

    Despite that, we were in the hunt until TS missed the hook shot @ 63-60. I knew we’d lost right then. Predictably we melted down the stretch and lost by 9. I can write that script.

    I’ll tell you, I’ve been impressed by Donahue. BC was awful last season and was coming off of a zero man recruiting class (in other words a much worse situation than we had entering the season). They’re on track to finish 3rd or 4th in the ACC and get to the NCAA tournament. We’re a bubble team at best. I couldn’t help but wonder what the result would be if the two coaches had the opposite rosters.

    As much as I don’t want it to be the case, I think this was another nail in the SL coffin. Given we were 0-4 against good teams entering the game, we really, really needed to steal one on the road and it didn’t happen.

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