218th UNC-NC State Game Preview

NC State and Carolina are meeting this Saturday at 2:00PM in Chapel Hill on ESPN, no doubt, for their 218th basketball game.  This will either be more of the same against an opponent that it completely sucks to lose two, or it will be a Les Robinson moment where despite fielding an underwhelming squad, the head coach is able to pull out a win against arch-rival Carolina.  Either way, this is how we stack up.

Carolina is currently 14-5 (4-1 in the ACC) and 3rd in the ACC.  I hate to dissect wins because… well… a win is a win, but of Carolina’s ACC games, the loss came to a fairly unimpressive GT squad and none of their wins have shown any form of dominance.  In reality, UNC’s last win against Miami only came after trailing the majority of playtime and was only assured in the last second of gameplay when Barnes decided to actually act like he is a recruit worth his ranking and hit a 3.

God, I hate Carolina so —-ing much.

Carolina, in true Roy Williams form, relies on hard-hitting Forwards to score the bulk of their points.  The only players Williams has scoring double digits are Tyler Zeller, Harrison Barnes, and John Henson, all playing Forward.  It’s also worth noting that Tyler Zeller is by far Carolina’s hardest player to match-up.  He is 7 feet tall and 250 lbs.  The only player we have that physically matches up to Zeller is Vandenburg.  I am not a fan of our Aussie migrant player, but he does manage to get a few good rebounds every game he plays and he is one of our better blockers.  He would be a good defensive asset against Carolina’s Forward offense, but don’t plan on NC State jacking up the score with him on the court (only 1.5 PPG).

Bottom line, if NC State is going to beat Carolina, we must stop the run.  We have to force Carolina to slow down and deny them the paint.  This shouldn’t be a problem with NC State’s stellar defensive skills, right? …right?

So how does NC State win?  Keep the ball where WE want it and let Scott Wood take some damn shots!  If Lowe hasn’t been working specifically with Wood on taking highly contested shots, than NC State basketball coaching will have hit a new low(e).  NC State is statistically worse than Carolina in every aspect (points per game, rebounds, assists, blocks, et al) except for one: we shoot better from the line and behind the arc.  Basically, we are a more accurate team.  Carolina’s FG% is high because their strategy is to get the ball to the forwards and use Zeller’s fat ass to beast some 2 pointers.  So far, it’s been moderately effective.

The one thing NC State simply can not continue to do is not move the ball.  I spoke in a previous blog post about the importance of NC State and getting assists.  In order to dominate from the field, which will be our key to success, we will need to be looking for those opportunities and kicking the ball out once the lane has closed.

Bwaaaaaaaaah! Take that, Hansbrough, you little prick.

Carolina has 3 players with double-digit points per game.  NC State has 4.  Carolina’s top 6 players are bringing in an average of 8.6 PPG.  NC State’s top 6 bring in 10.7 PPG.  We can outshoot Carolina, but we are going to have to get our players to move the ball and avoid defense giants on Carolina’s team like Henson (2.9 BPG) and shut down Carolina’s ability of their guards to feed the ball to Zeller.  Carolina’s guards, Drew and Marshall, are averaging around 4 assists per game.

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51 Responses to 218th UNC-NC State Game Preview

  1. bradleyb123 01/28/2011 at 11:41 AM #

    Carolina really isn’t that good. They’re playing bad, but so are their opponents, and they’ve found ways to win anyway.

    As long as we don’t get intimidated by the name on the front of their jerseys, we have just as much chance of winning this game as they do.

  2. Baccapacker 01/28/2011 at 11:42 AM #

    Love the pic. It’s been the background on my computer for about a year now. I don’t expect to win, but it would be nice to see Lowe go out with a few memorable victories.

  3. 61Packer 01/28/2011 at 11:52 AM #

    The best way to win this one would be to keep the red blazer at home.

  4. Baccapacker 01/28/2011 at 11:59 AM #

    61Packer, agreed, he needs to lock that thing away.

  5. Rick 01/28/2011 at 12:03 PM #

    Where can I read the other 217?

  6. Thinkpack17 01/28/2011 at 12:35 PM #

    ^You won’t get away with that field hockey comment.

  7. wolfbuff 01/28/2011 at 12:40 PM #

    In order for Scott Wood to get some good looks, we have to provide some picks. He hasn’t gotten any good lucks because everyone is just running around and nobody is looking to screen.

  8. swamppack 01/28/2011 at 12:53 PM #

    NCStatePride, I love your display of raw hatred for Carowhiney. I dislike anything about them so much I surprise myself. I have never hated anything in the sports world like I hate UNX. That goes for any sport, not just basketball. If they won a tiddly-winks contest I would feel angry.

    So what if Sid’s on his way out and I don’t hold any hope for a successful ending this season, anytime is a great time to beat the holes.

    By the way, between the Miami and Clemson game this week I posted some feelings of belief that things may have started to come together just in time. After the Clemson game reality hit.

    Well, maybe next year.

  9. WolftownVA81 01/28/2011 at 1:03 PM #

    Nice post. Thanks.

  10. Texpack 01/28/2011 at 1:11 PM #

    Tough decision tomorrow on watching the game, since I’m picking up my marathon bib a couple of miles from the local NCSU watch party. I’m not sure I can watch too many more of these.

  11. Wolfy__79 01/28/2011 at 1:16 PM #

    i certainly subscribe to unx not being good at all. i cannot believe that they have won championships under that bogas system.

    this unx team, should be very beatable.. if it weren’t for two key timeouts late by hole roy, unx would have lost to miami. they were called after made shots to set up defense. their guards only have assists is b/c of poor defense to wide open layups. they would have more but unx owns another statistic.. missed layups. we’re a close second. despite this, their fg% is high b/c the bulk of their points come from less than 5ft. the last few games they have played they’ve been better from the perimeter.. or atleast when it matters.

    this game is a matchup of two teams of organized chaos.. of course they are the more organized variety. but quite frankly, they suck. this is why losing to this team and catapulting them to near first place would hurt all the more!

    the only thing we have to do is play AVERAGE team defense, and we win easy, big and spin out their season. but, this is something we haven’t done all season. unx is so high on their new pg taking more pt? he’s not that good either and doesn’t fit the dumb and gum offense hole roy likes.

    even for us, they are very BEATABLE.

  12. Wolfy__79 01/28/2011 at 1:39 PM #

    if i were sidney lowe or any of his assistants.. i would simply show the highlight reels of the last few whippings we’ve taken at the hands of unx! ..and the smug.. arrogant looks those fags gave as they looked down their noses at our WOLFPACK. forget fundamentals, that won’t save a one day matchup!

    if any one of those players had an ounce, not even an ounce.. a drop of my blood (which is boiling already!) we would take this mediocre unx team, humiliate them at home and have them playing women’s basketball the rest of the year! <- where they belong! 🙂 GO PACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. PoppaJohn 01/28/2011 at 2:07 PM #

    Before the season started, I thought we’d match up well with UNC and have our best opportunity in many years to beat them twice. As you might imagine, that has changed. I don’t hold much hope for tomorrow, maybe when they come to town.

    I totally hope Sid goes out with some signature wins. The Heels are beatable.

    TIM BRANDO – did anyone else hear Brando on the David Glenn show? More of the ‘careful what you wish for’ rhetoric as related to a potential coaching change – as of cource the expected, “I didn’t think Sendek was that bad” comment. Tim doesn’t think we can get a major name. Hope we can rub that in his face.

  14. nycfan 01/28/2011 at 2:08 PM #

    LOL. If games could be won on intensity of hatred, State would have a decided advantage head-to-head with UNC over the past 20 years.

    This UNC squad is a team that often seems to be less than the sum of its parts and the 4-1 record certainly doesn’t tell the whole story … like the fact that UNC has yet to play dook, FSU, UMd or BC, for instance.

    But while this team has not put together a complete game since the win over Kentucky, they have been less inconsistent defensively and (to my surprise) defense is what has kept this season from being an unmitigated disaster to this point. Sure, they are very beatable, but so is State, and UNC has been a less inconsistent team to date (not saying much).

    The interior match-ups will be interesting. Never heard Zeller referred to as “fat” before and I don’t think that particular insult was well considered, but a lot will ride on whether State’s stouter forwards control the paint or UNC dominates with its length and quickness, especially with blocked shots and offensive opportunities. Zeller and Henson do not like or play well against physical players, but they can play over the top and around post players who are not physical.

    I actually expect a big game from the Frosh, especially CJL, and Smith. I think that UNC can wear State down, especially State’s big men, but for this game there might be enough adrenaline for the State guys to overcome that, especially if you can carry a lead into the last 10 minutes.

    If both teams hold true to recent form (and even to the outcome of the second pick-up game in Stack’s summer league), State will come out jacked up and hitting everything, blow out to a huge first half lead and then slowly but surely cough if up as UNC ratchets up the defense and makes a methodical come-back over the last 30 minutes of game play.

    But rivalry games are always iffy propositions … just look at the one win Michigan team going into Michigan State and winning last night. Bluntly, I hope your guys lay an egg, but I’m not counting on it.

  15. NCStatePride 01/28/2011 at 2:18 PM #

    ^If you think that is “true to form” for NC State, then your Carolina loyalty is showing through. What would be more likely for NC State is to start out slow and sometime before the half or immediately after it, blow out the lead. NC State has typically fared better in the second half.

    Still, I don’t know if I agree with your “wear the big men down” comment. Zeller is huge (and I’ll call him a fat-ass as long as he’s wearing those terrible colors you call “Carolina blue”), but he’s just one guy. What he has over our guys is that he’s big AND athletic. Still, that’s one player. The bigger problem won’t be “wearing down”, it will be execution of a cohesive game play. What NC State really has going for it is that Roy Williams is very vulnerable to frustration and making in-game mistakes. If NC State can get out to a huge lead, it may actually, for once, play to the Wolfpack’s favor because it will frustrate Williams and cause him to make poor coaching decisions.

  16. Wulfpack 01/28/2011 at 2:33 PM #

    I’d love to see us win, but I just don’t see it. We do so many things so poorly. And we have zero killer instinct. We may get a nice lead on UNC, but we’ll find every way possible to blow it. I just do not think we are that good.

  17. runwiththepack 01/28/2011 at 2:39 PM #

    Just listened to a guest, Tim Brando, on the Dave Glenn show say NCSU had merely “periods of success”.

    Yeah! a “period” of about 40 years from when Case was hired to when Valvano was fired. Compare that mere 40 years to several centuries of Roman Empire domination. Maybe that’s the context he was comparing the 40 years to.

    Beginning with the 1956 hiring of UNC coach xxx (name escapes me at this moment somehow), until now is 55 years.

    I guess a program has to have 54 years of success to be considered a real program.

    Maybe Brando is a whipper-snapper too young to remember more than 20 years ago. As long as there are still state fans, there will be a resolve to get the good ‘ole days back for ncsu bball.

    One more thing, let this year play out before (publicly) going negative.

  18. runwiththepack 01/28/2011 at 3:07 PM #

    Oh, and Brando also said “maybe they (i.e. us) didn’t appreciate the last coach (Sendek)”.

    Speaking for myself, I appreciated him for trying. He left on his own accord. I appreciated that, too!

    “Be careful what you wish for”, Brando also said, suggesting we should have been happy with 10 years of almost constant distance from the top one-third of the ACC heap.

    Things were heading downward when Sendek left, so he was smart to leave before he got fired. I wish him well, and he may be at a place that is just tickled with .500 ball.

    Just wondering, is getting to the ncaa every other year (and usually losing in the first weekend) something to strive for, even if it’s better than the past 5 years? I say no.

    For those of you who are relatively new to the state, this shows one of the reasons why NCSU fans can be a little hostile to the media, where we often hear how we should be grateful for the crumbs that the Chapel Hill privileged ruling class throw at our feet.

    Beginning with Saturday, hopefully we can start to elbow our way back to the upper one-third of the ACC.

  19. patientwuf 01/28/2011 at 3:36 PM #

    I’m still in shock that Carolina is 4-1 in the conference. I’m with you Pride-I hate Carolina so ___ing much. This team is not that good.

    I’m a little worried about the mental state of our team right now.

  20. Wolfy__79 01/28/2011 at 3:45 PM #

    zeller? yes, he’s a solid forward and their most consistent player.. henson is the ONE that plays inspired basketball. i don’t see a unx two man front wearing down any of our bigs.. including the big ausooskie vandenburg. neither or combined equal hansbra!

    it’s almost a mirror image game in a way to me. both coaches have shown noticeable disconnect with their players. the difference being i feel we are trending up in that department whilst i see the tarholes finding bandaids for the symptoms.

    ^^^, games can be won on motivation. a motivated nc state wins out or atleast 8 games this year. it’s not hatred, it’s disgust-> to the tune that how can a team not defend against a full court team that simply moves more quickly than its opponents?

  21. Wolfy__79 01/28/2011 at 3:59 PM #

    as i read some very disappointing comments yesterday and surely some unc fans have as well. i just know they are gobbling up every bit of it.

    i’m not concerned at all mental state of our nc state players or coach. if anything, they are learning what it means to be a part of nc state. for all his flaws, sidney lowe, he understands this. what our guys will see tomorrow is how blind unc fans are and what “win baby win” really means as well as “the carolina way!”

    the intangibles, we’ve heard in recent weeks and even this week where our players are coming from. to hear ryan harrow speak out publicly and be on board with his mentor… alongside with tracy’s remarks.. marks to me a very important step for the team. these young men are committed to getting it done.. if they fail, so be it… but in the long run, this class represents the competitive FIRE that will return our program’s mentality to where it belongs. i know the fundamentals aren’t there, but the direction is. it’s almost like sidney is working on something that is much bigger than immediate wins/losses.. which may not translate until he’s moved on!

  22. Rick 01/28/2011 at 4:11 PM #

    “You won’t get away with that field hockey comment.”

    I did not know softball players got that upset about things. ;-P

  23. 61Packer 01/28/2011 at 5:02 PM #

    As mediocre as UNC is this season, remember that they beat the snot out of us twice last season, and they’re better this season. Last season’s Wolfpack team in my opinion performed better than this year’s edition has so far. We’re playing worse than usual right now, and the game’s in Chapel Hill. Plus, our men haven’t beaten UNC in basketball since February 3, 2007. What have we done lately on the court to make us believe things will change Saturday?

    Smith will need plenty of help inside, because Zeller and especially Henson will probably limit him offensively. Smith is a good player but against guys his size he’s had problems. A good defensive effort would help, but more than that we need to shoot well, especially Wood.

    The other thing we need to do is limit Barnes. For once I want to see Leslie do something besides run his mouth. Stopping Barnes would show that maybe we didn’t waste a scholarship here.

  24. pack44fan 01/28/2011 at 5:37 PM #

    I’d really like to see a competitive game with maximum effort for 40 minutes on both offense, and more importantly defense. Just as I say that, I’m reminded that NCSU has won 6 ACC road games in 5 years…..and I’m brought back down to earth. Hope springs eternal!

  25. tuckerdorm1983 01/28/2011 at 6:28 PM #

    not gonna watch, not gonna do it. I can’t take it. After it is over and I see the score, then I will watch it on ESPN3. That way I don’t have to be emotionally tormented.

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