Moving on: “All 128 Atlantic Division Scenarios in One Place

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All 128 ACC Atlantic Division scenarios in one place
With four teams and seven games still relevant to the ACC’s Atlantic Division race, there are 128 scenarios that could come out of the division.

(For those without much of a stats background, that number comes from taking two — the number of outcomes possible — to the seventh power, i.e. 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 2).

Anyway, this was a quirky project for a flight from Fort Lauderdale to Baltimore on the way back from the Maryland-Miami game. Needless to say, three pages of my notebook now look like Kryptonian symbols.

Of the 128 scenarios, Florida State wins in 38 of them, N.C. State in 33, Maryland in 31 and Clemson in 25.

And then there’s the trainwreck scenario. That’s the fun one.

Suppose Florida State loses to Clemson but beats Maryland. And the Terrapins upend Virginia and N.C. State. Oh, and the Wolfpack has to beat Wake Forest and North Carolina. Finally — and perhaps least likely — Clemson has to lose at Wake Forest. Then again, it’s Clemson, so nothing should be counted out.

Quick tidbit: The only way N.C. State could win the division without beating Maryland is if the Wolfpack is 5-2 entering the finale, Maryland is 3-4 and Clemson has beaten Florida State and lost to Wake Forest.

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30 Responses to Moving on: “All 128 Atlantic Division Scenarios in One Place

  1. DT44 11/08/2010 at 7:35 PM #

    For what it’s worth I’ll cast my vote in favor of TOB’s call. Both options have merit, but based on our OL’s inability to budge the Clemson line, I’d say chances for picking up the yard were worse than 50-50. Instead, with 3 timeouts and the ample time remaining, a GOOD punt (which until then had been our norm) pins a shaky CU offense near their goal. They’d be extra-cautious with the playcalls, and unless the D blows an assignment, we’ve got them trying a PRESSURE-packed punt from their endzone with no margin for error—remember, with the one-point margin a safety WINS THE GAME. Should they get it away, we ought to get good field position with maybe a minute and change, and four fresh downs—four cracks for Russell to complete a pass long enough to reach field-goal range. I like that scenario.

    Bottom line, it’s just not smart to rest the outcome on one do-or-die play with at best a 50-50 chance of success when there’s another viable strategy AND enough time for it to work. Less time remaining, or less timeouts, might have altered the calculation, but given the situation at hand I support TOB’s call. We as fans are supposed to be emotional and passionate about the game, but coaches are paid to evaluate situations and make logical decisions based on their experience and clear-eyed analysis. Disagree with O’Brien if you will, but the kind of personal, spiteful attacks found here since the game are not worthy of Wolfpack Nation.

  2. MA Wolfpack 11/08/2010 at 11:33 PM #

    DT44, the point is that not getting that 4th down would not have killed us. The situation would have been exactly the same as the punt we ended up kicking (4 whole yards of difference). With that said, the result of the punt is irrelevant…even if we stick it at the 1 yd line and get a safety to win the game, it was the wrong call.

    Another point…if you think we have less than a 50% chance of picking up a yard, then what do you think our chances are of driving down the field? I think we have a 75% chance of picking up the first down at least.

  3. russwuf 11/09/2010 at 12:47 AM #

    …and to add to the above there was NO guarantee that we stop them on a three and out….sure as TOB pointed out we had shut down their run in the second half BUT all that Bruising runner Harper had to do is get only one first down and the game is over…at least by going for it NOW on 4th we have the ball already not having to burn TOs and stop a bruising back from gaining a first down to get it back….with probably very little time left…
    we get the first down and get about 10-15 more yards and we are in FG range…although knowing that JC was injured would that have played into a decent FG try had we had to settle for an attempted FG

  4. coach13 11/09/2010 at 8:41 AM #

    Yes but Leffler had been doing a good job up to that point. REMEMBER he made a great effort to roll the ball to the 1 yd line earlier in the game. UNFORTUNATELY the coverage guys for some stupid a$$ reason would not slow down and down it at the 1.

    The frustration for me in all this really ties into recruiting surprisingly. We ALL know this is a down year in the ACC. And if we end up mediocre in a down year, and we have the worst recruiting class in the ACC and TOB’s tenure coming in, that spells disaster for next year. The poor recruiting to date leaves us with little hope for next year. The Pack needs to have a big season to hopefully help improve the recruiting class for next year. If we finish poorly I don;t see recruiting getting better as the top players have mostly committed.

    We will fall behind in talent and in the ACC. TOB is being by-passed by the rest of the ACC.

  5. GAWolf 11/09/2010 at 9:47 AM #

    ^I agree totally. These next few games will have implications on our position in the conference for years to come. And while I’ve never been big on the Herb comparison so much, isn’t that what we said about him repeatedly: he couldn’t get over the hump even in down years in the ACC.

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