A Different View of Silence

I’m often amused by commentaries that wander along the path of facts, speculation, assumptions, and theories with the goal of reaching an ultimate conclusion. All too often, they get lost somewhere along the way and end up in Oz rather than at a logical conclusion. Caulton Tudor attempted this journey but got lost today as seen in Silence isn’t golden for UNC’s problems. In fact, he doesn’t even get through the first sentence without losing his grip on reality:

Regardless of how the NCAA investigation into North Carolina’s football program plays out, the school already has taken an image hit, partially because of its unwillingness to publicly address the situation.

UNC is taking a hit to their image and pride simply because the NCAA launched an investigation into an area that was (evidently) being completed ignored by the school. However, to claim that the negative publicity associated with an investigation would extend into the future even if no sanctions were imposed is absurd. While Duke and State fans would never forget (and claim all sorts of underhanded dealings), the rest of the country would quickly forget and move on to the next scandal or contrived news story. Even NCAA sanctions would likely affect UNC’s image for only a short period of time.

Sanctions against Kentucky basketball and Alabama football show that even serious NCAA violations do not necessarily translate into long-term repercussions. It would be interesting to compare and contrast the violations, school responses, and penalties between Kentucky basketball, Alabama football, and the Valvano scandal. I will have to leave that piece to someone else because I’m sure that my blood pressure couldn’t take the internal stress that such an analysis would produce.

A little bit further down, Caulton runs off the road again:

This public retreat gives the appearance of stonewalling – a course that only intensifies public anxiety and suspicion. It also makes the school look scared to many and guilty to at least some.

This begs the question, stonewalling who; the NCAA or the media? At present, there is no reason to think that UNC and its representatives are being anything but open with the NCAA. “Honest” may be a different issue, but there is no evidence to suggest that UNC is stonewalling the NCAA.

So is Tudor really complaining that UNC is stonewalling the media? If so, then he really should explain how talking to the media could possibly help UNC. Personally, I see no reason that anyone from UNC should be talking publically before the NCAA concludes its investigation and releases its findings.

After the findings are released, the chancellor and AD will stand up, say the right sorts of things, fire coaches (if necessary) and then move on with life. The only thing that will come out of talking to the media today is that it will give people something to write and talk about…which is probably the extent of Tudor’s concerns. In fact, I would argue that the media having something new to write or talk about every day would actually HARM UNC’s image more than it could possibly help it.

Shortly after this previous paragraph, Tudor lands in Oz:

Blake, who has been linked to sports agent Gary Wichard, is a public employee with an annual salary of almost a quarter of a million dollars, plus perks.

While it’s well documented that big-time college football coaches of all ranks and regard are hideously overpaid, the kind of money Blake is making as an assistant should come with a stipulation to be open and honest when the reputation of an entire university is at stake.

Davis and Baddour, in fact, should demand as much from Blake.

Oh come on. Is anyone really that naïve? Butch Davis and John Blake only care about themselves. Anyone that thinks any differently isn’t living in the real world and hasn’t bothered to check on the history of those two. If anyone is fired because of this investigation, it will be because of what has already happened, not because of anything that is said now.

There’s an old cliché…when you hit rock bottom, stop digging. But Tudor evidently doesn’t believe in this philosophy:

Carolina, by now, either knows for sure what has or hasn’t happened, or it has a very good idea.

To assume otherwise is to assume that Baddour, Davis and other school officials – Thorp and school lawyers – haven’t sat down with Blake and gotten to the bottom of the situation. That meeting has taken place, whether anyone in authority says so or not.

…At best, the school is pursing a very odd strategy. It’s almost as though everyone is hoping that if they keep quiet, the problem will just go away.

Outside of science fiction stories, hive minds, brain dumps, and mind melds don’t exist. So how, what, where is the “Carolina” that is supposed to have worked the whole story out by now? In the real world, people know what they did, know what they saw, and know what other people have told them. Baddour/Thorp didn’t do anything or see anything. So if you were in their shoes, how much faith would you put into what Austin, Blake, Davis, et al tell you?

My own opinion is that at this point Thorp and Baddour have no clue what the real truth is. Thorp was smart enough to recognize that and installed the gag order as soon as the black helicopters from the NCAA landed. It seems obvious to me that the Thorp/Baddour don’t want to say anything that might eventually turn out to be wrong. From where I sit, that is the smart move.

No one is stupid enough to think that not talking about it will make the problem go away. Is Tudor stupid enough to think that talking will make the problem go away?

Side Note: Years ago I was told by a UNC alum living in the Triangle that Dave Glenn was looking forward with great anticipation to the NCAA black helicopters landing at the Murphy Center and hauling Amato away. I find it quite humorous that they have now landed amongst the pine trees in Chapel Hill and Glenn never did find his fire in West Raleigh.
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CONCLUSIONS

There is a time to use the media to help form public opinion….like during the aftermath of the Chris Paul low blow. However, not every battle is fought before the court of public opinion. The NCAA investigators are not likely to be swayed by fancy words or sobbing confessions. Whatever happens will be a result of the facts that they are able to assemble and the severity of whatever violations are uncovered.

Even if everyone at UNC were pure as the driven snow, very few people outside of Chapel Hill would believe it regardless of who talked to the media or what was said. In the more likely scenario where someone, or more likely several someones, have stepped over the line, talking to the media won’t change that fact and won’t affect the sanctions that will be handed out by the NCAA.

Thorp/Baddour are left with several unappealing options:

– Talk to the media and open themselves up to an unending string of questions.
– Talk to the media and risk being forced to eat your words (ie Fowler…ESPN…Amato).
– Wait until the NCAA has finished their investigation and then respond with as much dignity as you can muster.
(I think that we can safely assume that the response from the now-fired USC AD will not be repeated.)

There may be a time and place to ridicule Thorp and Baddour for some of the decisions that they have made. But regardless of how the NCAA investigation turns out, refusing to talk to the media won’t be one of them.

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40 Responses to A Different View of Silence

  1. TheCOWDOG 08/11/2010 at 7:15 PM #

    Va, no tangent of mine could master that of Tudor’s piece today. It was brilliant!

    Brilliant in placation! Brilliant in attempts to disguise a sense of guilt. Unfortunately, it still tasted like a rice wafer without Habanero jelly.

    Somehow, I felt that midway thru the sleepwalk that he’d break out in some kinda Mia Culpa…alas, not to be.

    Fluff. Pure fluff, and really a forced product of concerned darts being tossed with specitifity at his own department.

    Tudor is not the guy we knew when he was with the old Raleigh Times.

  2. VaWolf82 08/11/2010 at 7:33 PM #

    I have been accused of many things over the years, but I’ve never been called a hypocrite. I simply can’t condemn the UNC administration for doing exactly what I would do if I were in their position.

  3. Bowlpack 08/11/2010 at 7:53 PM #

    Agreed. You simply cannot condemn the UNC admins for their silence in this issue. Can you imagine how Fowler may have embarrassed us in the media were this us in this situation?

    Be it the notion of naiveté or some acute case of righteousness and model morality that Tudor displays, Baddour has to be willing to accept the possibilities and looming likelihood that some of his employees have and will continue to act with their own interests in mind and be willing to take appropriate action.

  4. tuckerdorm1983 08/11/2010 at 8:10 PM #

    Whatever the verdict, I think Butch goes. We should know the verdict before the season starts.

    If the verdicts are harsh (Banned from bowl play, last seasons wins vacated, austin and little and maybe a few more out for the season, blake banned from NCAA sports) then Butch goes now and maybe takes the AD with him.

    If the penalties are weakish (a reprimand and Austin sits out a game or two) Then Butch resigns at the end of the season to spend more time with his family or be an assistant or head coach in the pros.

    Tudor is right they have to get someone in there to return respect back to the program. UNC’s image has taken a massive hit.

    Either way Butch goes. (anybody remember how heads rolled under the Mary Easley debacle, the same for UNC athletics)

  5. Bowlpack 08/11/2010 at 8:59 PM #

    I’m not as confident that Davis is immediately out, but I would imagine that he’s given the opportunity to walk away at the end of this season if nothing more that to allow him to have his dignity. The caveat is if some surprise information comes out that implicates him directly to any recruiting violaitons, agent dealings, etc then his head is clearly on the chopping block. That’s a huge if as he does not appear to be so completely out of touch that he would allow himself to be put in that position. The writing is on the wall for Blake. He’s your fall-guy.

  6. GAWolf 08/11/2010 at 9:08 PM #

    I agree that UNC is doing the right thing, but I do believe this rant by Tudor is indicative of the far-reaching effects of this investigation… alienating the media is not something UNC has had to worry about before.

  7. VaWolf82 08/11/2010 at 9:14 PM #

    After the NCAA releases its findings, I expect that communications between UNC and local media outlets will return to normal. If that happens, I doubt that there will be any “far-reaching effects” from the present media blackout.

  8. coach13 08/11/2010 at 9:18 PM #

    Blake is a classless sleeze. He will not take the fall for anyone. He is a Me First person all the way. Anyone who tries to take him down will pay including the entire UNC football program. I just don’t see him taking one for the team, particularly a team of wine and cheese white guys. Remember he has no problems dragging race, sexual preference or anything alse into an arguement to muddy the waters(ask Troy aikmen)…and he will do anyhting to come out of this ready to get his next gig. Try to take him down and he will take as many with him as he can.

  9. phillypacker 08/11/2010 at 9:32 PM #

    VaWolf,

    you have had some great posts over the years but this seems a little fickle to me. I think Tudor is just calling a spade a spade. UNC has always been assumed by local media to be a standard for other institutions. This investigation, and, I hope the coming Wayne Ellington investigation, lays a lot bare over there. I see this as Tudor acknowledging the double talk from Chapel Hill. UNC has had the regional media in its pocket for decades and now UNC is biting the hand that feeds the public for them. I was glad to see this. This deafening silence is indicative of the depth of this thing and of people like Butch MF Davis and Black Santa and Baddour wanting to keep their jobs. How in the world can Butch stay on after this year given this debacle? He has given UNC the worst black eye in its history. Can anybody think of anything bigger that has happened in the last 200+ years?

    Also, on a side note, UNC had national exposure on ESPN News tonight as Giglio did a phone interview with the anchors over Man Boobs Gate.

  10. choppack1 08/11/2010 at 9:32 PM #

    I don’t think UNC has ever been especially open w/ the media. UNC’s advantage has always been its contacts in the journalism community and its favored status from a large % of the NC community.

    As far as this scandal goes – for something like this – I think you only kick and scream if you’re confident in your innocence – and the best case scenario is that a few rogue athletes have bent the letter of the law to an absurd level.

    I suppose Baddour and UNC’s other PTB could say – “we’re taking a wait and see attitude w/ the NCAA and will only assist their investigation. Regardless of the outcome, when the NCAAs is done, we’ll be conducting a seperate one.”

    Finally, IMHO, for a long time – UNC has been more concerned w/ the perception of the reality rather than reality. In a case like this – the perception is shattered – all you can do is wait it out.

  11. VaWolf82 08/11/2010 at 9:46 PM #

    Fickle:
    •marked by erratic changeableness in affections or attachments;
    •erratic: liable to sudden unpredictable change;
    •Quick to change one’s opinion or allegiance; insincere; not loyal or reliable

    I think that I am doing the same thing that I frequently do…attack illogical or inaccurate posts. This one just happened to be in print.

    Personally, I don’t think that Tudor is calling a spade a spade. It sounds more like a young girl whining when someone won’t talk to them. AFAICT, Giglio is the only one in the local media who has attempted to do any investigative journalism on this issue. It seems like everyone else’s in the NC media’s idea of investigative reporting is calling the SID. They appear to be lost when that doesn’t work.

  12. tuckerdorm1983 08/11/2010 at 9:56 PM #

    phillypacker

    “How in the world can Butch stay on after this year given this debacle? He has given UNC the worst black eye in its history”

    Right on brother (or sister whatever the case me be). No way he can stay. Trustees are plotting his demise as we speak. Even if he is completely blameless they will want to clear the decks and start over.

    “SAY IT AIN”T SO BUTCH, SAY IT AIN”T SO”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson

  13. TheCOWDOG 08/11/2010 at 9:58 PM #

    Tuck, with all due respect, and I mean it. Carolina’s image has not taken a massive hit. Maybe with the football pundits, but that’s easy for them.

    UNC football is neither great, nor horrid. Nobody gives a rat’s ass about what degradation may be imposed upon them by the NCCA this year, anymore than anyone cares about what happened to the real USC.

    The travesty still remains that for what ever freaking reason, and trust me man, I was in California when the whole thing went down, State ate its own on the platter that the local media served to them.

    No one, I repeat, no one on the coast that I ran with (many ex players to boot,from a wide range of schools) had anything more than a respect for State. Mind you, I ran with Pac 10 peeps, SEC, Big 10 and New England folks. All sport savvy and all conference biggoted.

    I’ve got my opinions as to why we garner so little respect these days and it has been discussed ad nauseum in here.

    You guys got the local flavor and so did our admin. Then came ESPN.

    Bottem line…we were our own worst enemy, armed by gunrunners like Tudor.

    Why wouldn’t they keep lips from flappin’ in CH. More power to them. They have a pretty good model not to follow. That said, I count my lucky stars when I said no to them and yes to us.

    You should know that along the way, I’ve had some pretty good times with players from all sports that way west, but…but never from a fan.

    Tangent recognized 0-).

  14. rtpack24 08/11/2010 at 10:05 PM #

    Like they say in the Mafia “silence is a friend that will never betray you.” UNC should have suspended Austin and Little immediately, still let them practice and make a decision after NCAA findings. Baddour is in uncharted waters and he has no clue. I would suggest they hire Lee Fowler to consult with them on how to handle this situation.

  15. Buck 08/11/2010 at 10:06 PM #

    I kind of agree with Phillypacker here in that Tudor seeems to be calling a spade a spade. Mostly, I think, because the media is always going to get pissed when nobody answers any of their questions. The point of view is sort of a “If they won’t say a word to the media, I’ll at least write something about why that’s a dumb idea” kind of attitude.

    More importantly though, (speculating here) the lengthy silence in Chapel Hill could be a sign that there is something more than just smoke to this whole thing. If Baddour and company were so sure that Blake was on the up and up and in the clear, they would defend him…at least a little bit. Why let your main recruiter twist in the breeze and be made vulnerable to potential negative recruiting? The fact that they are not defending him in the least is somewhat strange…unless in their internal inquiries trying to get to the bottom of this, they have found some sludge down there.

  16. phillypacker 08/11/2010 at 10:08 PM #

    VaWolf,

    Fickle means hard/impossible to please, among other things. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I have written similar sentiments to yours here on SFN and in the comments section of the N & O’s website. I just don’t think everything that gets written about this situation deserves to get lambasted just because we can find or think we can find some fault with it. Yahoo Sports scooped the N & O and Giglio’s piece yesterday quoted the Yahoo piece as its source for most of its content. That is about as lame as a local paper, one that has turned ferocious whenever State is the target, can get. (Remember the pointless College Inn piece that was all smoke and mirrors?)

    Coverage of this (Man Boobsgate) by local media has been so obviously tainted by allegiance to Team Pastel, that it is embarrassing to watch. However, I think your piece attributes naivete to someone who has been writing about sports in this area since long before many of us were born. I don’t think he is naive. I read the piece and interpreted it differently, as I think most people would. It is very negative, very critical of UNC. And in this case, I think he was dead on accurate.

    I respect your differing opinion. I think it was a little over the edge, but again, so many of your posts have been dead on, I think it’s fine to differ on this one.

    Thanks again for all of the valuable posts you have made over the years.

  17. tuckerdorm1983 08/11/2010 at 10:08 PM #

    the guys down at the local barbershop here in rural nowhere north carolina sure think it is pretty bad. Even my friends that are died in the wool UNC fans are worried.

    Just to note.
    (I grew up in house divided on the NCSU/UNC question. We watched games in separate rooms and agreed to not taunt each other. My mama was a UNC fan and daddy a NCSU fan)

  18. VaWolf82 08/11/2010 at 10:16 PM #

    If Baddour and company were so sure that Blake was on the up and up and in the clear, they would defend him…at least a little bit.

    Very few people outside of Chapel Hill think that Blake is blameless. With his reputation, anyone that stepped to the microphone and defended him would be ripped to shreds and IMO stand a good chance of being forced to eat any words of support.

    The best that UNC can hope for is that the NCAA doesn’t find any proof of Blake’s dirty tricks. If that happens, then everyone can smile and say that they knew it all along. If Blake gets blasted by the NCAA, then everyone at UNC will say that they had no idea what he was doing. There is no reason for UNC to pick a position until they are sure which way the wind is blowing.

  19. blpack 08/11/2010 at 10:21 PM #

    Tudor sounds like he just wanted something to write about. Can’t blame Captain Obvious for that. Dicky B talking would write the story for Tudor. In any event the end is coming. Thanks to SFN, yahoo sports, and others who did some digging and shed some light into the dark bowels of UNC-ch football program. There is so much smoke coming from their athletics dept it probably required a gas mask, but thanks just the same.

  20. VaWolf82 08/11/2010 at 10:25 PM #

    I read the piece and interpreted it differently, as I think most people would. It is very negative, very critical of UNC.

    Yes it is. But Tudor is only being critical of their silence…not for any of the public information like Marvin’s tweets that have been documented so well. And there was no mention of the recent claims that former UNC players have paid for trips taken by current players.

    And in this case, I think he was dead on accurate.

    Why?
    How would it benefit UNC to talk to the media?
    Would you stand before the media and repeat whatever Davis and Blake have told you?

  21. hball57 08/11/2010 at 10:32 PM #

    It’s amazing how the press just doesn’t listen – not even to themselves.

    They write articles about how cooperation with the NCAA makes this go easier. They write about the Southern Cal investigation with Southern Cal turned ugly because Southern Cal couldn’t keep their collective mouth shut. They listen to the AD say they will work with the NCAA. And then they complain because they have nothing to write about.

    Look at the newspaper today. 1 in 10 “reporters’ have the ability to investigate a story. The paper has turned to “fluff” and commentary.

    Looking at what is alleged and comparing it with previous NCAA investigations, Butch is safe. Blake and Austin seem to be in trouble, but this is not a huge investigation in the grand scheme of things; unless they keep finding more.

  22. Master 08/11/2010 at 11:04 PM #

    Caulton and I have traded dozens of emails over the years. I wrote him this morning to say that by this time in the Valvano affair, the N&O had convicted the players, the coach/AD, the Chancellor and the University.

    For those of you who were not around in 1989 to witness the vitriol and propaganda of the the N&O, the current whitewash of the UNC mess after a couple of weeks in the “news” is why so many of us hate the N&O. The damage they did to us and our reputation lives on. Unless dots are connected to the basketball team, this issue with the football team is small potatos. Move along…. nothing to see here, move along.

  23. McCallum 08/11/2010 at 11:21 PM #

    Silent like a fart in church.

    McCallum

  24. gcpack 08/11/2010 at 11:48 PM #

    Speaking of David Glenn, what is it with that guy? He talks like he is so unbiased yet it is so obvious that he loves the baby blues.

    Tuesday a caller said that the only time State could win in basketball was when the coach was dirty & cheated .
    That with K and Roy it was impossible for State to compete unless the coach was dirty. David Glenn said absolutely nothing . However as soon as the same caller said that Butch Davis was dirty Glenn immediately said that it was unfair to say that about a coach unless the caller could give specific facts that Davis was dirty. No facts needed for Glenn when its said that the State coach is dirty.

    What a complete ass David Glenn is.

  25. El Scrotcho 08/12/2010 at 12:37 AM #

    As usual, UNC’s Athletic Department and Media Relations seem to be doing a great job of not making the situation worse. Every time an official opens their mouth during one of these situations it shows up as a headline on ESPN:

    UNC Agent Scandal: AD Speaks

    Could you even imagine the trainwreck of a daily PR disaster this would already be if Lee Fowler was their AD?

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