Lee’s Last Shot at an ACCeptable Achievement?

Since the beginning of the 1992-1993 athletics season, NC State University is the only full-time BCS affiliated institution that has failed to win single conference championship in football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball or baseball.

Today marks the start of the 57th Atlantic Coast Conference Basketball Tournament, and perhaps the last of almost 57 attempts for a Lee Fowler-led Athletics Department to win a conference championship in a ‘major’ team sport.

To more deeply understand my point, you should click on this link that will take you to one of our most popular entries of all time – ‘The Unholy Trinity’ (which has now become the “Unholy Duo” as Iowa State successfully removed their name from the list this football season). For additional support, you can’t miss this graphical look at ACC & National Championships.

In short, over the last four years, NC State and the University of Colorado are the only two BCS schools that have experienced four straight losing seasons in football while also failing to land a single berth in at least one NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament.

Some other noteworthy ‘accomplishments’ of NC State’s Athletics Department since the calendar turned to the year 2000 and overlapping Lee Fowler’s ‘leadership’ as NC State’s Athletics Director include the following:

  • NC State is one of only four BCS schools that have failed to win a conference title in any of the four major revenue or high profile sports – football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball along with Texas Tech, Arkansas, and South Florida (who didn’t join the Big East until 2005).
  • The Wolfpack’s athletics program is one of only sixteen BCS schools that has failed to win a single team national championship as 50 of the 66 BCS schools (75.8%) have won at least one team national championship in the past ten years.
    • Both Kentucky & Kansas State are on that list have great chances to remove themselves in this year’s NCAA Basketball Tournament.
  • After NC State failed to advance to a BCS Bowl game this year we failed to remove ourselves from the historical list of only 8 BCS schools – and the only ACC school – that has never played in any of the four BCS bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange). Since Lee Fowler has been AD in Raleigh, five different ACC programs have represented the conference in BCS games including non-powers Maryland, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest. (Must be the facilities)

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StateFansNation is excited to share with you that as Sidney Lowe’s Wolfpack Basketball team attempts to make history in Greensboro as the lowest seeded team to win an ACC Basketball Championship, NC State may finally be moving towards an attempt to raise the University up from being one of the worst major college athletics programs in the country.

If some of the most widely-known ‘secrets’ in recent memory hold to form, it appears that Lee Fowler may finally be on his to a more permanent perch at his Lake Gaston house without being funded by the taxpayers of the State of North Carolina.

Rumors have evolved for months around Lee Fowler’s potential, and long overdue departure from NC State. We have allowed some of these conversations to play out on our message boards as we want our readers to always feel free to discuss all topics and want our community forums to be provider of significant value for our readership. But, today, we feel as though it is time to bring the rumors we have been hearing to light with a little more clarity, context and commentary than what you may have picked up on the forums. You have the right to choose to accept or reject the following information and commentary as you see fit:

  • You may remember a heightened amount of chatter and discussion about Fowler’s job security just over a year ago as we headed into Final Four weekend of 2009. This ‘chatter’ was definitely more than rumor and innuendo as some of the Ministers of Propaganda from the ‘State Sunshiners Squad’ tried to report to the masses on messages boards.
  • At that time, The Board of Trustees finally had enough support to endorse a push on Fowler and for the first time in his tenure, spineless Jim Oblinger had indicated that he would not fight the attempt to work with Fowler to craft a mutually agreed upon exit from NC State.
  • Note the point of ‘mutually agreed upon’ exit. You need to remember that in April of 2007, NCSU’s Board of Einsteins Trustees inexplicably extended Lee Fowler’s contract through 2013. We couldn’t understand this decision at the time; and it looks even crazier with the benefit of a few more years of pain and suffering. So, problems arose in preliminary conversations as Fowler’s love for money is very and dictated that he wasn’t going to leave easily.
  • Fowler has made himself a candidate for at least a half dozen other jobs since he has been at NC State and (obviously) nobody will hire him. Early in his time in Raleigh he took swings at jobs like Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia and even Indiana a few years ago. In recent years, Fowler has quietly been turned down by some smaller schools.
  • At his age and with his laughable reputation amongst sports administrators married to his miserable record of few achievements, even Fowler must recognize that the odds are very low that he could ever secure get another job…especially if he were ‘fired’. So, if NC State wanted him gone then we would have to pay him big bucks for his contract because when he leaves his career is effectively over. (Doesn’t it make you feel great that YOU have had the pleasure of this guy running your department all of this time because nobody else in the country was dumb enough to hire him? Can we all thank our Board of Trustees one more time for their stewardship and leadership of our University?)
  • The financial and political will to buyout an Athletics Director is not something that most administrators want to deal with at any point in time, let alone in the middle of an economic recession.
  • Then the Mary Easely-Jim Oblinger-McQueen Campbell-Board of Trustees scandals broke and the heat lifted off Lee Fowler. Figurative heat, of course; there was plenty of heat on him as he tanned himself of the warm waters of Lake Gaston all of last summer.
  • Enter interim Chancellor Woodward. It soon became clear that if Woodward had been made the permanent Chancellor that Fowler would have been one of the first changes made alongside Tom Stafford and the public fiasco with Lennie Barton. But, Chancellor Woodward did not feel it was his place to deal with this major issue at the University.
  • A big hole in the story emerges as little is known about the recent interaction of the Board and the interim Chancellor and new Chancellor Woodson. But, if the story holds, the decision was made for Fowler to be gone before Chancellor Woodson arrives on campus.
    • We have heard that Chancellor Woodson is scheduled to start at/near the very beginning of April.
  • Supposedly there is/was a date in late February/early March that served as some kind of trigger for Fowler that has some form of financial significance to him. This date was key in his acceptance of an agreement to be able to position his departure as a ‘retirement’/’resignation’ instead of a firing as it should have been.
    • SFN’s conjecture here is that this special date is somehow tied/linked to state retirement benefits that may come at a ten year anniversary of hire. We don’t know all of the specifics of pension formulas, etc; but, this conjecture makes sense when you consider that Fowler started at NC State on September 5, 2000. So, his 10 year anniversary is coming soon. State of North Carolina policy allows for the rolling accumulation of sick leave and vacation. And, you can bet that Fowler has never claimed a day in his life. So, it is very plausible that he has enough days ‘banked’ for him to step away as many as six or seven months ahead of his ten year anniversary.
  • For the better part of the last month, the frequency and consistency of rumors related to a Lee Fowler departure has significantly intensified. Many different sources have shared with SFN that Lee Fowler will ‘retire/resign’ as NC State’s Athletics Director at some in the very near future. The scenarios around Fowler’s ultimate departure usually takes the form of one of the two of the following:
  • (1) Some of the rumors have Fowler departing NC State in May, coinciding with the end of the school year. This version centers on the premise that Fowler has been given an ultimatum to have found a new job and hit the bricks by the end of the year…or else. This would have Fowler riding into the sunset with another of SFN’s most disliked NC State administrators, Tom Stafford.
  • (2) The more intense and immediate version of the rumors have Fowler ‘retiring’ next week as the Wolfpack’s basketball season is expected to be completed. The most widely speculated and most logical date of departure would be a Friday afternoon announcement on March 19th as the news and attention to the story would be significantly diluted by the NCAA Tournament first round.

Please note that we are not proclaiming the above bullets as 100% fact or are we proclaiming that these scenarios will ultimately play themselves out in reality as they have been ‘pre-planned. We have not confirmed these stories enough to ‘report’ them to you as ‘news’. But, we do finally feel comfortable enough in the strength of our sources and the momentum of what we are hearing to lay all of this out so that you can form your own set of conclusions.

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A particularly interesting observation of the recent developments in this scenario stems from the fact that we were told much of this timeline in November & December of last year – long before the chatter has started to elevate amongst NC State fans and on some message boards. But, what we were told months ago has picked up momentum as the weeks have passed and the story has remained remarkably consistent despite coming from many different sources.

Additionally, Lee Fowler’s own behavior has served to add to the speculation as he has been conspicuously absent from some key University events including a private reception to welcome Chancellor Woodson after his introduction and the NC State Alumni Association Evening of Stars (at the end of January).

It certainly didn’t help us douse the flames of these rumors when a close friend shared the following observation with us last month:

Maybe totally unrelated, but I have noticed that he has not had the NC State Flag waving in front of his house since Christmas. Before that, it seemed it was always there. A Christmas flag waved during the holidays, but no flag is there now. Can’t say whether the flagpost on the wall is still there.

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Lastly, you MUST listen the audio we linked this morning of Taylor Zarzour’s new radio program.

In the segment, Zarzour takes a very different tack than other local media members and defiantly proclaims that NC State needs to fire Athletics Director, Lee Fowler.

My uneducated and uninformed analysis of the boldness of Zarzour’s comments is — he knows something.

Think about this for a moment. There is no way that any member of the media chooses to begin their first local show calling for the firing of the local Athletics Director – the one that has the power to butter Zarzour’s bread and provide or block access to members of the NC State community.

Zarzour would be committing a form of professional suicide by coming right out of the gate with that kind of talk…

unless, he had some reason to believe that Lee Fowler wasn’t going to be around very much longer, anyway.

At that point, Zarzour would be playing this thing MASTERFULLY as he can immediately position himself as a both a prophet and an independently free-thinker who is not in the pocket of ‘the man’. What would he have to lose by way of relationships at NC State if there isn’t going to be a Lee Fowler to piss off in the very near future?

I guess only time will tell…

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83 Responses to Lee’s Last Shot at an ACCeptable Achievement?

  1. Cardiff Giant 03/11/2010 at 4:47 PM #

    Incidentally, it is ENTIRELY possible that Fowler has several months of paid sick/vacation leave stored up that would permit him to leave earlier in the year and still have his time.

  2. highstick 03/11/2010 at 4:47 PM #

    I sure hope you’re right, but that streak of mysterious Missouri blood in me still says “show me”! When you do, I may have a huge “finally it happened party”!

  3. Cardiff Giant 03/11/2010 at 4:49 PM #

    If/when Fowler hits the bricks Bob Kennel will know that his show has finally closed, and will duly commit seppuku on the steps of the Case Center, like Mr. Ishii at the end of James Michener’s Hawaii.

  4. triadwolf 03/11/2010 at 5:02 PM #

    If this comes to pass the amount of alcoholic beverages consumed and the run on fireworks will be an econimic stimulus of epic proportions for the State of NC. Get ready to take over the roundabouts of Hillsborough St!

  5. wolfholla 03/11/2010 at 5:24 PM #

    sautz, I guess what I’m saying is you need to check your research. Anyway, I took your condescending advice and spent 10 minutes on google per your suggestion and found SEVERAL erros.

    There are many other BCS schools who have not won a conference title in any of the so-called “four major” sports that you have failed to mention:

    Missouri
    Northwestern (co-football champs in 2000 technically before Fowler was established as AD in late Sept. 2000, does that count???)
    Arkansas (another 2000 title in Mens b ball, not sure if applicable)

    Depaul and Marquette also apply but since they don’t play football, I can let that one slide.

    If we want to expand this to teams with one co-championship, the list grows inexorably, even more when we count teams with one title over 5 – 7 years ago.

    Colorado has 1 football title in 2001.

    WV Wolf: Missouri-2009 Big 12 Men’s Basketball Champs

    Since you pointed out that Fowler showed up in Sept 2000, Arkansas’s 2000 title would have been in March. Check your calendar.

    Fowler’s first year: 2000-2001. Football is a fall sport. Northwestern’s 2000 football title would be in the 2000-01 season.

    DePaul and Marquette don’t play football so they can’t exactly be BCS schools now can they?

    wolfholla, I guess what I’m saying is check your research. I know I did.

  6. bradleyb123 03/11/2010 at 5:31 PM #

    I understand that none of this is set in stone, but my hopes are up now and I’ll never forgive SFN if Fowler stays.

    This is exactly why I have faith in what this article is about. SFN tends to err on the side of caution. If you guys didn’t REALLY believe this was happening, this blog would not exist.

    Glad to hear it!

    I’m giddy with excitement and have butterflies in my stomach, the likes of which I haven’t experienced since the day I learned HWSBN was leaving NC State!!!

    Now just let it come true. To borrow something from my childhood — Please, please, please, please, please!!! Pretty please with sugar on top!!!

  7. choppack1 03/11/2010 at 5:34 PM #

    Just a clarification. Regarding Zarzou – he’s actually been railing on Fowler for a few weeks. My sister was telling my about him doing this several days ago.

    I think it’s great someone is doing this. The silence of the N&O on him really is a slap in the face to their integrity if they ever want to weigh in on a coach’s future at NC State or the other surrounding schools.

  8. Pack Mentality 03/11/2010 at 5:44 PM #

    This is a classic entry. Please let it be true.

  9. Rochester 03/11/2010 at 5:53 PM #

    Sounds good to me, but it sounded good last year when you guys said he was about to get fired and it didn’t happen then. I hope you’re right this time.

  10. Pano Fasoulas 03/11/2010 at 6:08 PM #

    $100 check to the Wolfpack Club and $50 to Alumni Association the day this comes to pass.

  11. StateFans 03/11/2010 at 6:13 PM #

    wolfholla, I can’t quite tell what your point is? So, you did some research and figured out that our stats were true and you are deciding to argue the points?

    I don’t think you did a very good job of reading the entry and understanding the statistics very well. It is like you are bleeding a lot of them together in a jumbled mess

  12. Wulfpack 03/11/2010 at 6:20 PM #

    “I have noticed that he has not had the NC State Flag waving in front of his house since Christmas…A Christmas flag waved during the holidays, but no flag is there now.”

    Perhaps he has finally waved the white flag?

  13. Pack78 03/11/2010 at 6:22 PM #

    Assuming that this does indeed come to pass, won’t you home brewers out there need to come up with a new brew to celebrate? Cheers!

  14. wolfholla 03/11/2010 at 6:26 PM #

    Statefans, your stats aren’t accurate. I pointed out three teams that you did not mention.

    Second, I asked you (politely) what time period you were referring to with the conference stat because it wasn’t specifically addressed unlike the other factoids. I got a smart a** reply about “miraculously” appearing answers.

    That’s important because if we’re talking about during Fowler’s tenure, you left out 5 teams instead of three because two teams won titles in 2000 before Fowler’s tenure began. However if we’re talking about 10 years like you mention in another stat, you are only off by three teams.

    YOUR STATS ARE WRONG.

    Also on a side note, although I know you don’t like Fowler, you twist the facts in this post in several other areas. As has been mentioned, BCS is a recent concept but you imply by using it that State is the only team that hasn’t went to certain “BCS” bowls when you really are talking about historical stats regarding certain bowls that have nothing to do with the BCS, i.e. we’re going back to the beginning of college football.

    Also, you imply that Fowler is paid by the NC taxpayers.

    Again, YOU LEFT OFF 3 TEAMS and depending on the time period. TWO MORE.

  15. Beer Belly 03/11/2010 at 6:43 PM #

    Nice Play SFN… very nice!!! What a well orchestrated way to break the news of Fowlers imminent departure. You guys have your connections and have been very close to the pending Fowler situation. All of your contacts are independently all singing the same tune. Enter Taylor Zarzour… and he’s been getting his new show planned and all his ducks in a row. He contacts some of his sources for information he can report on his show rather than just depending on guests and call-ins. While all other media outlets across the state are all pro anything but State athletics he comes out and drops the bomb on Fowler out of nowhere. Everything he said was true and Fowler really does need to go and the majority of State fans won’t argue that. But where did this all come from all of a sudden? Why in the world would he start his show by bashing and calling for Fowlers ouster? He found out some good solid information to lean on while calling for Fowlers head. If true he instantly gains a huge following for the success of his show from this enormous crowd of avid State supporters. Which in turn hopefully we will finally have someone in the media will lean more to the wolfpack angle. Then, boom you guys come out with your follow up story here giving a more detailed account of all the behind the scenes rumors and innuendo which is very outrageous and believable. I love it and I can buy it all of it. See ya Fowler!!! and thanks SFN for a very well executed plan. Very well played!!!

  16. WV Wolf 03/11/2010 at 6:44 PM #

    wolfholla, you got a smart ass answer because you didn’t read. The answer to your question was in the paragraph RIGHT ABOVE IT.

    Now go read the bottom of your previous comment.

    If my stats are still wrong, why don’t you enlighten me on what teams I left out?

    To everyone else, sorry for the derail.

  17. Cardiff Giant 03/11/2010 at 6:55 PM #

    “You implied that Fowler is paid by the North Carolina taxpayers”

    Wolfholla: Fowler IS paid by the North Carolina taxpayers. The man is a state employee. So I am not implying it (whatever SFN is saying), I am STATING it.

  18. sautz 03/11/2010 at 6:58 PM #

    Lets just say that in his or her words there are “SEVERAL erros” in wolfholla’s statements and move on. Some people have poor reading comprehension. These are very damning facts even if you try to squeeze a couple more teams into our bottom dwelling hell.

  19. bradleyb123 03/11/2010 at 7:04 PM #

    Sounds good to me, but it sounded good last year when you guys said he was about to get fired and it didn’t happen then. I hope you’re right this time.

    There was a lot of smoke when this was happening last year. It wasn’t just this blog, either. And my own personal source said something was in the works.

    In other words, just because it didn’t happen last year does not remove any credibility from this blog. I firmly believe with the Easley stuff, and the change of chancellors, and BOT member(s), that it was simply a case of them having bigger fish to fry. All that stuff probably saved Jed’s hide for a while. I’ve been thinking that once all that dust settled, that the Jed stuff would heat up once again. And it appears that is exactly what is happening.

    Maybe. Hopefully. Fingers crossed!

    And it makes sense that they would do this the opening weekend of March Madness, so it will draw less attention to the university. Sounds like a GREAT plan to me!

  20. WolftownVA81 03/11/2010 at 7:07 PM #

    Thank you SFN and God Bless. Go Wolfpack.

  21. LRM 03/11/2010 at 7:32 PM #

    Numbers don’t lie…but they never tell the whole truth, either. Regardless of how much data you present, there’s no possible way to ever quantify the amount of misery that moron has caused so many of us.

  22. StateFans 03/11/2010 at 7:41 PM #

    Wolfholla, we have a pretty clear policy here of requiring VALUE from people that post. So, if you can’t comprehend what you read; or choose to be dumbass; or simply can’t provide any value then please don’t bother posting as we will just delete it and you will have just wasted your time.

    To whomever said that we said that Lee Fowler as going to be fired last year I ask you please just share links and quotes to where we said it. Everything we have ever typed is out there on the public record. If you find that your comment is incorrect, then we look forward to your retractment and apology.

    (By the way…he WAS going to be fired last year. Just because it didn’t happen didn’t mean that it wasn’t going to happen before the Easley scandal.)

  23. LRM 03/11/2010 at 7:46 PM #

    Too bad getting rid of Fowler wasn’t as easy as getting rid of wolfholla.

  24. WV Wolf 03/11/2010 at 8:00 PM #

    Now I’ll never know why my stats were wrong 🙁

    The reason why I derailed things some following up on that (and getting a little snarky) is that I try my best to make sure my stats are correct before I publish them on the blog for the sake of accuracy and credibility. If I overlook something or added something up wrong, I’ll be glad to correct it. In this case, a lot of those BCS school stats were done by my fellow stat major ruffles31 and I had verified them. So it rubbed me the wrong way when someone tells me my stats are wrong (in all caps no less) when they’ve been complied and double checked by a combined 3 statistics degrees.

    Please return to planning next week’s celebratory storming of the roundabouts.

  25. WolftownVA81 03/11/2010 at 8:06 PM #

    When this comes to fruition, I would encourage everyone that rejoins the WPC, or chooses to send a celebratory donation, to please be very specific about what drove your decision. We need to reinforce that a significant number of the fan base will not keep donating no matter what. This is the power that we as consumers hold.

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