NC State 52, Virginia Tech 72

On a night when even the NC State dance team couldn’t get its act together and Richard Howell couldn’t make it out of the tunnel for warm ups, the basketball team could do little right in a 20-point loss to the Hokies of Virginia Tech. The 72-52 defeat marks the fifth straight ACC loss for the Pack and puts the Pack in last place in the ACC at 2-8, just a half game behind 2-7 North Carolina. The Tar Heels fell to Duke by 10 Wednesday night in Chapel Hill.

Howell, scheduled to start for Dennis Horner, cut his leg on the way out to warm up and had to receive stitches.

“Richard was going to start and on his way out to the floor for warm ups he cut his leg on something and cut a big gash in his leg and had to get stitches,” Sidney Lowe said. “He tried to go but he couldn’t really run and couldn’t get back on defense. We’ll see how he feels tomorrow and it will be day-to-day.”

Virginia Tech wasted little time Wednesday night, hitting its first 10 shots and building a 26-7 lead with 10:59 left in the first half. The Hokies shot nearly 53% from the field for the night and better than 42% from three point range. NC State’s stat line couldn’t have been more different — 28% shooting and 0-11 from behind the arc.

Josh Davis said the team needs to start games better to get things turned around.

“We just have to come out harder, it’s tough to pick up the energy from the start. I’m not really sure what’s going on we just have to practice and work hard and we just can’t keep doing this,” he said. “[Lowe] just told us the truth, things we have to work on. We’ll have spurts in the middle of the game but we just have to play like that the whole game.”

NC State cut the lead to seven at 38-31 with 17:50 left in the second half, but Virginia Tech promptly went on an 11 to one run to stretch the lead to 17. NC State never got any closer than 13 the rest of the way.

The lone bright spot for the Wolfpack as a team came on the glass, as NC State held a 45-37 edge and collected 27 offensive rebounds. And while did create second chance opportunities by hitting the glass, the Pack could only generate 12 second chance points.

“We didn’t convert as many as we needed to but it certainly says we were battling,” Lowe said. “That’s a very good ball club with arguably the best back court in our conference. It’s a very good team.”

Dorenzo Hudson and Malcolm Delaney led the way for the Hokies. Hudson scored 14 of his team-high 23 points in the second half and Delaney tallied 15, with 10 coming in the second 20 minutes.

Dennis Horner did much of the work on the glass for the Wolfpack, pulling down 16 rebounds (nine offensive) while also scoring 13 points. Josh Davis and Tracy Smith both scored 12. No other member of the Wolfpack broke into double figures. Farnold Degand, Javier Gonzalez and Scott Wood shot 2 of 19 combined in 70 minutes.

“They punched us in the mouth and we just sat there and looked at them while we were bleeding. It’s tough. We’re going to have to get this turned around somehow,” Wood said. “If you ask me I’ve played terrible. This is probably the worst season I’ve had in my life. I don’t know what’s gone wrong. Instead of shooting 500 shots a day I’m going to have to start shooting 1,000.”

Lowe, who was visibly frustrated following the game, said there is nothing to do but keep working.

“I don’t feel helpless. You go to work, that’s my job. The thing that’s frustrating is you can’t shoot the ball for them, and we shoot a lot in practice. You can’t get out there and do it for them,” he said. “You can’t make decisions for them. You try to put them in situations, you work on passing to the post and that’s all you can do. I don’t feel helpless because you just go back to work, there is another game coming.”

The Wolfpack hits the road again following tonight’s game and will take on Carolina in Chapel Hill Saturday. Tip-off is at 4 p.m.

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207 Responses to NC State 52, Virginia Tech 72

  1. 61Packer 02/11/2010 at 9:54 PM #

    This has been predictable but interesting reading. The game Saturday is setting up what could be a situation similar to that of CTC in his final weeks as State football coach. A string of dismal seasons reached a climax in Keenan when we lost 23-9 to an awful UNC team under lame duck coach John Bunting. That loss apparently set the “big wheels” in motion, and only hours after the next game vs ECU was lost, CTC was history here.

    The similarities I see now compared to then are striking. You had State teams void of any discipline, led by former Wolfpack players who had no prior college head coaching experience, leading by glitz (sunglasses, red shoes, the red blazer) and seemingly no plan other than throwing talent on the field and court and hoping it would produce.

    Now, the basketball situation finds us mired again in last place, heading to the Dean Dome with a team that seemingly has basically no motivation and even less guidance. Our opponent is having an awful season, but they’re still Carolina, and I believe our players will respond with emotion. However, I think those little pesky things like fundamentals and lack of defense will take us down again.

    If we lose, I hope the margin is wide enough to get those same “big wheels” who moved CTC to get moving again. I like Lowe as a person, loved him as a player, but based on what I’ve seen of his coaching for the past 4 seasons, he’s the worst I’ve ever seen in this league, period. And that includes Bob Wade, who had only 3 seasons to do damage at Maryland.

    His successor has done just fine. We should be able to do so as well, with or without Lee Fowler.

  2. JeremyH 02/11/2010 at 11:21 PM #

    I think that it is a very good thing that fans are not placed in the tough position of having to decide the fate of the coach of the team they cheer for. In this day and age, it is all about instant gratification, and unfortunately, mob mentality even takes hold on message boards. To talk about removing Lowe at this early stage of his tenure here is simply unfair to him, because he started off behind in recruiting (do not forget we also lost Chris Wright when Sendek left under pressure). Next season, we will have the best guards this program has seen since Corchiani and Monroe. A recruiting class with highly touted guards (Harrow and Brown) is tenfold better than one with highly touted forwards (Inge and Kelley). Coaching in the ACC is so very heavily dependent on recruiting and talent, look at UNC this year. This team is frustrated, because they are out talented at the guard positions in the last several games, although we are all free to hypothesize there are bigger problems under the surface and criticize coaching ability. Alas, I look forward to Lowe leading this team to a strong finish, and leading the team out of the tunnel in another 8 months.

  3. ncsu05mit10 02/11/2010 at 11:24 PM #

    Lee didn’t hire with his heart– he hired with he head. He knew full well that we’d accept an alumni, and he knew that after several failed attempts at decent coaches, Lowe would never turn down his dream job.

    Can’t blame the guy for taking it when offered.

    And now we can thank Fowler for not only setting us back some years by building upon Sendek, but also hurting how we’ll always remember Lowe. I hate it for the guy.

    But to be honest, I really don’t see it happening this year. Why? Because they’ll give an alum that extra chance.

  4. mwcric 02/12/2010 at 12:10 AM #

    There is a disturbing trend in Lowe’s tenure, with the exception of his first season, that his teams have gotten worse as the season progressed. Talent or no talent, that is a flag as red as Coach’s blazer. And I don’t buy because the competition gets better, because the lack of progress is in fundamentals. Maybe the boys are worn down from poor conditioning, which may lead to a decrease in FG% as the legs tire out, but it doesn’t explain the mental lapses on defense or the lack of movement on offensive sets. The mistakes and lethargic play simply don’t get corrected, and the coaching adjustments don’t seem to be made. For those of you who are complaining about talent – we just got our hats handed to us by Virginia Tech, a team that has had no more talent than us since they’ve come into the league. But look at Greenberg’s progress vs. Lowe’s.
    Further, you’re putting way to much faith into next year’s recruits. If they’re legitimate 5-star recruits, what do you honestly think the odds are that they’ll stay at NCSU past their freshman year? And what kind of expectations do you hold for true freshmen? John Wall is the exception, not the rule.
    And then there’s this: Duke has a 5-star PG coming in too, as well as a 4-star PG, 4-star SG and 4-star PG. FSU has a 4-star PG coming in. Miami is in the running, however slim, for two 5-star PGs. Wake Forest has four 4-star recruits coming in. UVA has a 4-star SG commitment. UNC has three 5-star recruits on the way including a PG and SG. And there’s even a slim chance Maryland could get 5-star C.J. Leslie. So, you already think State has the worst talent in the league; it’s not like the Pack is getting a couple of high-value picks while everyone else is getting nothing. If your analysis is to be believed, we’ll have a couple of jewels among the dregs, while everyone else will continue to get fatter. And the other schools will have the same coaching staffs in place – the same staffs that have been able to outcoach ours for the past three seasons.
    And it appears to me that questions about coaching aside, a big problem with the Lowe era has been keeping players happy. This is why I’m dubious about next year – a loaded class is great, but it’s also a lot of 18- and 19-year-olds, who know they’re being looked at as saviors, to keep happy. We’ve fallen too far to be a program that brings in this talent and have them happy just to be here because they’re at a powerhouse. Big-time recruits stop off here so they can be the center of attention in what’s essentially their D-League resume-building year in preparation for the NBA. See Hickson, J.J.
    This is a freaking hamster wheel. I don’t pretend to know the answer; I’m just tired of hearing how the wandering in the desert is always one class away from coming to an end, and then 2/3 of the way through “next year” lack of talent is once again the excuse, with the next group of saviors on the way. The players change, and the recruiting rankings change, but the staff remains the same. Something doesn’t add up.

  5. Rochester 02/12/2010 at 8:02 AM #

    Two words: Damien Wilkins. No. 4 recruit in the country (not just at his position) in 1999. Didn’t exactly do much here. I certainly hope Harrow and Brown amount to a lot more than that, but there are no guarantees. A year ago we were counting on Brown to help this season and he didn’t qualify. What happens if he doesn’t make it to campus next year?

    I’d love for these kids to come in and turn this ship around, but it seems foolish to let this be the deciding factor in whether we keep the worst coach in school history.

  6. whitefang 02/12/2010 at 10:18 AM #

    61Packer, excellent comparison. And I agree this has to be done with or without Lee Fowler. It is past time to move on.

  7. bradleyb123 02/12/2010 at 5:29 PM #

    bradleyb123, now you’ve taken subjectivity to another level. If Brown, Harrow, and Cothron turn out to be superstars (the thought process you’re rolling with here, correct me if I’m wrong), perhaps a different coach would be able to get even more out of them.

    That’s kinda what I was getting at, although I wasn’t thinking “superstars”. I was saying, Sid may have just assembled a team that ANY coach could do pretty well with. He does seem to be a good recruiter and has an eye for talent. I don’t dispute that. I’m just thinking there is plenty more to coaching than recruiting, and Sidney isn’t really showing much more beyond recruiting prowess. In the short run, he may have some success (sometimes good players make good coaches), but can we count on Sidney to continually bring in talent that is good enough to mask his other shortcomings?

    I actually do think he could have great players and find a way to botch it. Sidney seems to lose his team every year. We did good for a while, but it seems he has lost them again. There just isn’t much to justify keeping him, except for the recruits. I no longer think that’s enough.

    But if we keep him another year, I will be ok with that. Not excited, but at least we’ll keep the recruits. So that’s the good news. And I certainly would rather keep him another year than to bring in another “experiment” and roll the dice again. At least by keeping Sidney, we DO end up with some solid recruits and a little bit less of a dice roll.

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