NC State 52, Virginia Tech 72

On a night when even the NC State dance team couldn’t get its act together and Richard Howell couldn’t make it out of the tunnel for warm ups, the basketball team could do little right in a 20-point loss to the Hokies of Virginia Tech. The 72-52 defeat marks the fifth straight ACC loss for the Pack and puts the Pack in last place in the ACC at 2-8, just a half game behind 2-7 North Carolina. The Tar Heels fell to Duke by 10 Wednesday night in Chapel Hill.

Howell, scheduled to start for Dennis Horner, cut his leg on the way out to warm up and had to receive stitches.

“Richard was going to start and on his way out to the floor for warm ups he cut his leg on something and cut a big gash in his leg and had to get stitches,” Sidney Lowe said. “He tried to go but he couldn’t really run and couldn’t get back on defense. We’ll see how he feels tomorrow and it will be day-to-day.”

Virginia Tech wasted little time Wednesday night, hitting its first 10 shots and building a 26-7 lead with 10:59 left in the first half. The Hokies shot nearly 53% from the field for the night and better than 42% from three point range. NC State’s stat line couldn’t have been more different — 28% shooting and 0-11 from behind the arc.

Josh Davis said the team needs to start games better to get things turned around.

“We just have to come out harder, it’s tough to pick up the energy from the start. I’m not really sure what’s going on we just have to practice and work hard and we just can’t keep doing this,” he said. “[Lowe] just told us the truth, things we have to work on. We’ll have spurts in the middle of the game but we just have to play like that the whole game.”

NC State cut the lead to seven at 38-31 with 17:50 left in the second half, but Virginia Tech promptly went on an 11 to one run to stretch the lead to 17. NC State never got any closer than 13 the rest of the way.

The lone bright spot for the Wolfpack as a team came on the glass, as NC State held a 45-37 edge and collected 27 offensive rebounds. And while did create second chance opportunities by hitting the glass, the Pack could only generate 12 second chance points.

“We didn’t convert as many as we needed to but it certainly says we were battling,” Lowe said. “That’s a very good ball club with arguably the best back court in our conference. It’s a very good team.”

Dorenzo Hudson and Malcolm Delaney led the way for the Hokies. Hudson scored 14 of his team-high 23 points in the second half and Delaney tallied 15, with 10 coming in the second 20 minutes.

Dennis Horner did much of the work on the glass for the Wolfpack, pulling down 16 rebounds (nine offensive) while also scoring 13 points. Josh Davis and Tracy Smith both scored 12. No other member of the Wolfpack broke into double figures. Farnold Degand, Javier Gonzalez and Scott Wood shot 2 of 19 combined in 70 minutes.

“They punched us in the mouth and we just sat there and looked at them while we were bleeding. It’s tough. We’re going to have to get this turned around somehow,” Wood said. “If you ask me I’ve played terrible. This is probably the worst season I’ve had in my life. I don’t know what’s gone wrong. Instead of shooting 500 shots a day I’m going to have to start shooting 1,000.”

Lowe, who was visibly frustrated following the game, said there is nothing to do but keep working.

“I don’t feel helpless. You go to work, that’s my job. The thing that’s frustrating is you can’t shoot the ball for them, and we shoot a lot in practice. You can’t get out there and do it for them,” he said. “You can’t make decisions for them. You try to put them in situations, you work on passing to the post and that’s all you can do. I don’t feel helpless because you just go back to work, there is another game coming.”

The Wolfpack hits the road again following tonight’s game and will take on Carolina in Chapel Hill Saturday. Tip-off is at 4 p.m.

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207 Responses to NC State 52, Virginia Tech 72

  1. 85Designo 02/11/2010 at 8:30 AM #

    Time to ditch the ACC (we get no value from Swafford) and start our own conference we can call it the Mediocrety Conf. FB and BB
    Iowa State
    SMU
    Baylor
    Tulane
    Vandy
    Texas A&M
    Rice
    Temple
    NC State

  2. packfan03 02/11/2010 at 8:33 AM #

    That was beyond rough. I can’t remember a game that got away from us so quickly.

    In fairness, if you think Doherty could have pulled in the Felton/May/McCants class at any school – you’re insane. Carolina is a basketball marketing behemoth

  3. packbackr04 02/11/2010 at 8:35 AM #

    is woodson not already chancellor? can he not go ahead and get rid of these clowns?

    what about Valentines blown call at the end of the half? not that it would have mattered but jesus man that was a foul if ive ever seen one

  4. Wulfpack 02/11/2010 at 8:36 AM #

    85Designo, you need not include Vandy in that mediocrity conference. They are having a GREAT basketball season (ranked very high) and have swept their chief rival, Tennessee. They’re going dancing. And they went to a bowl game the year before last in football. Playing in the beastly SEC, that is quite an accomplishment for a school like Vandy. Substitute Northwestern for Vandy.

  5. Wulfpack 02/11/2010 at 8:38 AM #

    Packbackr, that was a clear foul. Too bad the more irrelevant you are as a program, the more disrespect you get from the officials. It’s true. It would not have made a bit of difference, but does underscore the fact that we absolutely suck as a program and everyone, including the officials, knows it.

  6. ktpritch 02/11/2010 at 8:41 AM #

    Glad I fell asleep and didn’t see the second half…

  7. BJD95 02/11/2010 at 8:46 AM #

    On the positive side of the ledger, Dennis Horner was just 4 turnovers short of a triple double!

    For the game, out 2 starting frontcourt players combined for 11 turnovers. Our guards suck, but our problems are systemic and far-reaching.

  8. ryebread 02/11/2010 at 8:49 AM #

    I was at the game last night. It was my first and last game this season last night (I didn’t buy tickets this year for the first time in eons) and I was excited about my seats — section 104, midcourt, about 20 rows up. This gave me the perfect vantage point to catch all the things that you don’t see on TV.

    The good: Horner, Davis and Painter were the only ones who really played hard last night and Painter had very limited minutes. Horner came out focused on pounding the glass and he had 10 boards at halftime. We did a pretty good job on Delaney and held him down most of the game. We honored Whit. LF was nowhere to be seen.

    The bad: At halftime, the rest of the team outside of Horner had about 4 rebounds. The team had ZERO points from 3 for the entire game. Someone told me walking out that it was the first time since 1989 that had happened. The no-call before the half was one of the worst that I’ve seen in 10 years.

    The ugly: We can’t do anything right. We had a guy get injured running out. We had players falling down trying to cover fast breaks. We dribbled the ball out of bounds on multiple occasions. Our four guards didn’t have a point until Wood hit free throws at the 8 minute mark of the second half. They finished with six. The dance team is way, way down on talent, yet I was still hoping they’d be the highlight of the game. Instead the RBC scoreboard operators couldn’t even get the dang song right. We honored McMillian and he didn’t even have a representative there to accept on his behalf.

    The worst thing about it? The wheels have entirely fallen off the bus. Lowe ran around screaming at the kids last night like a chicken with his head cut off. He’s always been a micromanager, but last night was about as bad as I’ve seen it. At one point, he was trying to draw up a play with his hands on the sideline while we had the ball on offense. This has totally caused the guards to go into a complete shell — of which I’m not sure if they’ll ever recover. We actually played 1 guard line ups last night where Wood was the only guard. The assistants and the bench? Motionless and lifeless. We have almost zero offensive movement off of the ball. The one time we really ran some motion last night we ended up with a JD dunk yet immediately abandoned it. On defense, we pressed a few possessions but otherwise played the same SL special matador man to man the entire evening. We didn’t even try to play a zone despite having one of the slowest teams I’ve ever seen.

    I left thoroughly convinced that last night should have been it for SL. With even a remotely competent AD, we’d have given Lowe his walking papers in private last night, allowed him to coach out the year with dignity and started a coaching search under the table. Right now the best case scenario with SL is that he recruits just well enough to squeak into the tournament and make each season a one year referendum on his job. We’ve seen that story before with HWSNBN and we know where it ends. Honestly though, I’m not sure if I’ve seen enough out of this staff to suggest they can even get to that level.

  9. BJD95 02/11/2010 at 9:07 AM #

    ryebread – we were virtually neighbors last night! I was in Row V, I guess maybe 2 rows behind you (my brother got tickets from a sales rep). Perhaps you heard me exclaim that I finally figured out Lowe’s problem – during timeouts, he talks to his assistants rather than his players. During live action, he talks to his players rather than his assistants. Poor Sid just has his timing completely backwards!

  10. Thinkpack17 02/11/2010 at 9:14 AM #

    I watched from home, and not only were there people still in their seats during garbage time, they were cheering. God love ’em. Those people must have the patience of saints. I just knew whoever was still there when the buzzer sounded would boo their lungs out. Our fanbase is a lot more loyal than we get credit for. That was embarrassing.

  11. tjfoose2 02/11/2010 at 9:18 AM #

    Didn’t watch. Didn’t know the outcome till this morning… Oops, correction. I knew the outcome before the game started, just not the final score.

    Haven’t watched since the Duke game, as I knew that was the pinnacle of the season. After 20+ years, I have found my recent apathy quite liberating.

  12. Tiew 02/11/2010 at 9:19 AM #

    Highlight of the night for me, my buddy who I bought season tickets with starts singing the Statler and Waldorf part of the Muppet Show opening theme.

    “Why do we always come here / I guess we’ll never know / it’s like a kind of torture / to have to watch the show.”

  13. LRM 02/11/2010 at 9:19 AM #

    So what kind of recruiting class does the Dance Team expect for next year?

  14. ryebread 02/11/2010 at 9:23 AM #

    BJD: I was in row V as well — seats 7 and 8. Where were you?

    Everything about last night reminded me of the Les Robinson era except that we were in a nicer facility:
    – Empty arena (no way we had more than 8k people there regardless of what the box score says)
    – Bad defense
    – Lack of fundamentals
    – About 1/2 the team sleep walking
    – Go on a little run to have all hopes dispelled
    – Highly over matched in talent
    – Way more turnovers than assists
    – Living and dieing by the 3
    – Nice guy, alum coach who is in way over his head
    – Incompetent AD

    And just like the Les Robinson era, I stayed until the bitter end. Hopefully this will mercifully end soon.

  15. Myrtle Beach Wolfpack 02/11/2010 at 9:25 AM #

    Except for the Red coat, Sid’s welcome was worn out long ago.They have been terrible under Lowe’s watch. Time after time they are unprepared, overmatched and always out coached. He screwed up McCauley, Costner and didn’t know how to help Hickson except to run an NBA set. Lowe must go! Lowe must go! Lowe must go! He can’t even get us a decent point guard.

  16. 85Designo 02/11/2010 at 9:36 AM #

    The nice thing about the Mediocrety Conference is everybody gets to hang a banner after each season just for participating. Fowler will be the Conference Chairman and the refs can be from the local Jr. Rec League. Win or lose, everyone is happy because the facilities will be so nice. The rule is each year the team that comes in last place gets to win the championship next season and splits the take from the Nicklelodian TV contract with all the other teams in the conference.
    As long as the money is there it will be OK.

  17. BJD95 02/11/2010 at 9:37 AM #

    ryebread – seats 1-3. We were definitely neighbors! I tried wearing my new Broncos hat for luck, but unsurprisingly, it didn’t work.

    I never got mad last night, although I laughed several times. In the “stages of Wolfpack grief” I’m definitely in full “acceptance” mode, and watch each game unfold as an inevitable tragic comedy. Since they were my brother’s tickets, I let him decide when we would leave (at 3 minute mark).

    Josh Davis plays the Marc Lewis role. Javi and/or Mays is a worse version of Curtis Marshall. Tracy Smith is Todd Fuller (one of these things is not like the others…), and so on. If Lowe would find a ratty red sweater, drink a lot more, and constantly signal for travelling instead of whistling – the transformation would be complete.

  18. LRM 02/11/2010 at 9:43 AM #

    “during timeouts, he talks to his assistants rather than his players. During live action, he talks to his players rather than his assistants.”

    Quite the damning, accurate observation BJD. Four years and Sid still has no clue how to manage the college game.

  19. LRM 02/11/2010 at 9:44 AM #

    “Josh Davis plays the Marc Lewis role. Javi and/or Mays is a worse version of Curtis Marshall. Tracy Smith is Todd Fuller (one of these things is not like the others…), and so on. If Lowe would find a ratty red sweater, drink a lot more, and constantly signal for travelling instead of whistling – the transformation would be complete.”

    Hopefully we’ll have a Lakista McCuller this Saturday!

  20. coach13 02/11/2010 at 9:45 AM #

    OK Bloggers. HERE IS A PROBLEM. I don’t here anyone in the media talking about Sid should go. Just us state fans amongst ourselves. It is time we took some action. I am definitely willing. A gathering of people? Signed petitions? We need the media spotlight on this catastrophe. Sid needs to be on the hot seat…I don’t even think it’s warm right now. We need to unite to save what Lowe is destroying. Tell me where to meet, a strategy, lets call WRAL, WTVD, etc. A show of numbers.

    We love this team too much to have to endure this s#$@. I am ready. Who is ready. Picket, march, gather at campus. WE NEED TO MAKE SOME NOISE. I know…I KNOW you don’t want to scare the recruits off, but it aint gonna get better, but I swear I think one og the guys got it right…these kids started optimistically, played descent, and Lowe and his coaching (or lack of) have worn them down. They don’t know what to do.

    Those kids on that team are getting worse. This program is getting worse. I DON”T GIVE A DAMN IF THEY DO WIN IN CHAPEL HILL COMING UP. This program is in complete disarray, and will take years to get back if we hired a good coach today. No recruits are going to save us.

    Who is with me? Who wants to share some info? Who is ready for a call to arms????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  21. ldr of the pk 75 02/11/2010 at 9:50 AM #

    In yesterdays thread I asked what did anyone see that gave any glimmer of hope that we might win last night.

    Today I’ll ask, do you really think that even with some decent recruits next year, that Sid can get the job done? Unless you are smoked up in an opium den somewhere, the answer should be a resounding NO!!!

    Is the talent on this years team really last place talent? We’re not great, but we damn sure should be better than last. You have to lay that at the feet of the staff.

    As a side note, I notice the Charlotte Observer wasn’t able to even get our score in the paper even though the game was over before the heels/devils game. In our edition they had a picture from the hill, a brief rundown, and the final score. Of course as bad as we are, I don’t blame them if they got out early and waited till today to file the report. WE STINK!!!

  22. WV Wolf 02/11/2010 at 9:50 AM #

    And all Larry Harris does during timeouts is stand at the free throw line and read notecards (cue Celebrity Jeopardy quote-“This guy reads from a card”). We often wonder if they are takeout menus.

    Just an awful performance all the way around. I left with about 4 minutes left after Horner threw an inbounds pass right to a VT player. And I never leave early.

    I enjoyed hearing Nate McMillan’s comments on the jumbotron but it made me realize that the guys who aren’t able to make it like Nate, Vinny Del Fuego and Hodge get to make a nice little speech. The guys who show up in person don’t get to say anything but do get their awesome clock that looks like somebody spent 20 bucks at AC Moore and slapped a Wolfpack sticker on it.

    Lots of comparisons to Les Robinson in the comments, I hope to have an entry up later this evening that I think you will find interesting.

  23. coach13 02/11/2010 at 9:53 AM #

    I’m waiting. Who’s ready?

  24. Pack Mentality 02/11/2010 at 9:54 AM #

    Did the dance team have any wardrobe malfunctions? That would be my only reason for going to a game, they need to “accidently” do that every game to get people in the seats.

  25. Noah 02/11/2010 at 9:54 AM #

    “85Designo, you need not include Vandy in that mediocrity conference. They are having a GREAT basketball season (ranked very high) and have swept their chief rival, Tennessee. They’re going dancing. And they went to a bowl game the year before last in football. Playing in the beastly SEC, that is quite an accomplishment for a school like Vandy. Substitute Northwestern for Vandy.”

    Vandy seems to have thrived in the absence of Lee Fowler. Hmmm…

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