Wolfpack Sports Marketing Goes After PackPride Message Board Poster

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Not a lot of time to post today, but it looks like Wolfpack Sports Marketing is really upset with some posters on PackPride.

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33 Responses to Wolfpack Sports Marketing Goes After PackPride Message Board Poster

  1. Cardiff Giant 10/21/2009 at 10:22 AM #

    “When did the freedoms that we cherish include being rude to others?”

    Since 1789.

  2. waxhaw 10/21/2009 at 1:27 PM #

    If it really wasn’t said, it’s not proof of the internet sites being the lunatic fringe. Regular fans, who don’t even own computers say stupid stuff every day. Have you been to a football game and paid attention to the things that are said around you? There’s a guy in front of me who couldn’t understand the intricacies of a pop warner football game but that doesn’t stop him from expressing his opinion loudly.

    What makes the internet different is how fast (and far) news/posts travel. It doesn’t make the fans on any particular board lunatics anymore than the people who are on the internet on other non sports sites.

    I’m sure people have heard rumors from a friend and been outraged enough to call the AD. It’s just a lot easier to read something on a message board and fire off an email. It’s the same group of people in either situation.

  3. hball57 10/21/2009 at 4:19 PM #

    “When did the freedoms that we cherish include being rude to others?”

    Since 1789.

    Really? I didn’t know that was included. I thought the statement “all men are created equal” implied that all should be treated with respect. Maybe that is just me expecting too much from people that live under our constitution.

  4. packplantpath 10/21/2009 at 4:36 PM #

    Erm, rudeness would definitely fall under free speech. Respect is definitely not a right.

    Check into how rude one Thomas Jefferson was to one John Adams way back in the day, and Adams to Jefferson. That was some major rudeness, both publicly and privately.

    Equality under the law is not the same as equality in the eyes of men.

  5. spiteface 10/21/2009 at 4:39 PM #

    “Really? I didn’t know that was included. I thought the statement “all men are created equal” implied that all should be treated with respect. Maybe that is just me expecting too much from people that live under our constitution.”

    If you didn’t know that freedom of speech was specifically meant to protect the most vile and disagreeable forms of speech, then perhaps you should read more. The statement “all men are created equal” means that no one is above the law, which was, in turn, was meant to protect the rights of everyone. Being treated with respect by some doofus on a message board is not to be found among those rights. Did you really call for people to be “held responsible” for internet postings? Strange ideas of freedom some people have…

  6. hball57 10/21/2009 at 10:04 PM #

    “Did you really call for people to be “held responsible” for internet postings? Strange ideas of freedom some people have…”

    But our free speech does require responsibility! To me that is where we have strayed away in our rights, responsibility and freedom! We have feel as if need not have any responsibility for our actions. And step away from the literal meaning of those words and understand the deeper meaning. We are all equal in society, not just under the law. We can disagree in the right context. Freedom of speech implies the freedom to be heard. All of this points to the basic respect we need to have for one another. Our laws are in place to protect certain rights; those rights are based on respect for one another.

    For example, internet posting can be libelous or slanderous. Those actions are against civil law. Does the fact that it is made by “some doofus on a message board” mean that it is now OK? Laws are created to punish behavior that in not respectful of others. The respect of others in what individual freedom is! And this is not just a right; there is a mirrored responsibility with every right. Our society today forgets that.

  7. packplantpath 10/22/2009 at 8:57 AM #

    “Laws are create to punish behavior that in (sic) not respectful of others.”

    No, laws are created to punish illegal behavior. That is the kind of attitude that gets us the “disorderly conduct” charge when somebody is rude to a police officer (see Harvard University, Henry Louis Gates). I don’t give two sh*%$ that you are a police officer, unless I’m doing something illegal, leave me alone.

    And no, I’m not anti-police. I have good friends who are good police officers (one on NCSU campus). I’m anti-douchbag, insecure, moron officer who feels threatened when it’s pointed out that they made a mistake.

  8. hball57 10/22/2009 at 12:23 PM #

    “No, laws are created to punish illegal behavior.”

    Yes, but why are laws written? If you evaluate laws you will find they are written to define behavior that violates the priciple of respect for others. All laws have this as it’s basis.

    So you give the disorderly contact arguement, which really emphasizes the philosophy that I stated. The examples you point out is one where the police officer initiated the disrespectful conduct, and his bevior was “illegal”. It also shows the problems involved with dealing with someone in athority.

    Now can you find laws that stretch this principle. But by and large respect for others is the underlying principle behind all of our laws; in fact the founding of our country. It is the respect for others that fosters freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc. IMHO the problems come when we forget the principles of freedom and the responsibilities included therein.

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