O’Brien Remains Upbeat, Still Confident In Rebuilding Process

Despite back-to-back woodshed-whoopings, not to mention an increasing chorus of fans howling across the Wolfpack Nation for heads to roll on his staff, Tom O’Brien says that he is still confident in the growth process of the Wolfpack program under his leadership and that he does not believe that it is time to write off 2009 as a lost cause.  In an entry on the sports blog of Charlotte.com, scribe Ken Tysiac reports that

“The first year, we finally figured it out,” O’Brien said. “So maybe we can finally figure it out now.”

O’Brien said he still believes in his players, and he remains confident in the rebuilding process he’s using because it worked when he was an assistant at Navy and Virginia, and when he was Boston College’s head coach.

“We’re playing probably younger kids than we ever wanted to be, but that’s a part of life,” O’Brien said. “You just keep your blinders on, keep focused week to week, and you know having been part of it for the fourth time, that it’s going to get better. It may seem like it’s getting worse at a point. But eventually it’s going to be very good.”

Whether those are the words of a steady hand at the tiller or the ones you might hear from someone re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic remains to be seen.   With a 3-4 record – and only one win against a Bowl Subdivision opponent – NC State has five games and it needs to win all of them, or perhaps at least four in order to go to any bowl, even those in the lowest tier.  Clemson, Virginia Tech and other ACC opponents await, making that seem unlikely at this point.  The Wolfpack will first enjoy a bye week prior to traveling to Tallahassee to face an equally troubled Florida State team in a battle for the basement of the ACC Atlantic Division – perhaps the worst group in all of the major conferences.

That gives O’Brien and his defensive staff about 10-12 days to figure out how to rebuild a Wolfpack “defense” that is record-setting – in its ineptitude at stopping other teams.  It’s 27th total defense ranking is a mirage built on one good performance in a 7-3 loss against South Carolina and two games against 1-AA competition.  O’Brien cannot focus solely on defense.  His 2009 team ranks 78th in punt defense with an average of 42 net punting yards, and 63rd in kickoff defense, clearly areas that need immediate improvement.  On offense, the one unflappable Russell Wilson has thrown four interceptions in his last three games and would appear to have less mobility — thanks more to coaching than his own ability.

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75 Responses to O’Brien Remains Upbeat, Still Confident In Rebuilding Process

  1. packplantpath 10/21/2009 at 3:58 PM #

    T-FIC, I agree. Yet, I still feel awful about it. I mean, it is Duke football and they managed to score as many points as our basketball team has in years past.

  2. gotohe11carolina 10/21/2009 at 3:58 PM #

    maybe i can’t read vegas odds sheets but are we a dog against bye???
    hey raiders and deadskins fans, y’all are awful with no talent, my chargers are doing there absolute best and still look mediocre despite being one of the most talented teams in the nfl (see norv turner). least i have my liverpool football to fall back on…
    oh wait n.m.

    i guess i’ll stick with rooting for bass fishing and our rifle squad…

  3. hball57 10/21/2009 at 4:30 PM #

    I wonder if the moderators could post the bye week comments from the last two years. I wonder if they would have the same theme, style and tone. We really didn’t have must hope those bye weeks either.

  4. tuckerdorm1983 10/21/2009 at 4:46 PM #

    have a little faith baby, have a little faith.

  5. elvislives 10/21/2009 at 5:07 PM #

    I can’t believe people are making excuses for losing to Duke. You can call me a fickle fan all you want but at least I’m not making excuses about losing to Duke. Seriously, man. Duke. I don’t want to relive that game any more than the rest of you, but come on guys. Duke by 21 in Raleigh. Just stop it.

    That should be a sign to all of us to become bass fishermen and leave the major sports alone. Like the kid who decides to stop getting picked last for kickball teams goes on to be a great artist or something. Life is too short to keep suffering through this garbage.

  6. T-FIC 10/21/2009 at 6:01 PM #

    Once again, you have to put this in perspective, this is not like losing to a Duke team before Coach Cutcliffe got there. If that had happened I would still be on suicide watch. We gotta give TOB time to do his thing. Its not gonna be pretty the rest of this season, but hopefully we will see more building blocks the remainder of this season and next season we’ll be looking at 7-8 wins. Not an ACC title mind you but a solid 7-8 wins. If we don’t get 7 wins next season then its time to start rattling the cages over in the Murphy Center. Rome was not built in 2 1/2 years folks.

  7. elvislives 10/21/2009 at 6:49 PM #

    Nobody can justify losses and ignore futility like an NC State fan.

    This is not meant to be directed at you T-FIC and I promise I’m not on here to insult fellow Wolfpack fans – these are very trying times and patience wears thin. SFN has been a great resource for Wolfpack information for me (I moved to Texas 4 years ago) and I promise I’ll be more optimistic in postings when I see a glimmer of hope. I almost wish I could see what you and TOB see.

    I wonder how Iowa State would feel if Baylor beat them by 21 in whatever the hell Iowa State’s stadium is called.

  8. Wulfpack 10/21/2009 at 7:38 PM #

    When the fan base is making excuses for why we lost to Duke, that’s a sign of the times.

    Is Duke better than in year’s past? Of course they are. But should we be better than years past? Of course. But we’re not, and therein lies the problem.

  9. T-FIC 10/21/2009 at 8:10 PM #

    I’m just saying that I would like the fanbase to give a great coach like TOB time. Lets not run off another coach shall we?

  10. Wulfpack 10/21/2009 at 8:29 PM #

    I am willing to give TOB the benefit of the doubt to get this figured out. He has proven to be a good coach.

    However, if our D continues to give up 50 a game, and if Archer is still around come July, I will begin to have serious reservations about the path TOB is leading us down. A true leader is loyal, yes. But he must recognze a problem if it persists, and he owes a duty to his team as well as the school to put a solid product on the field with all the tools necessary to win.

    You’ve got to know when to pull the plug. If the past 3 weeks are a trend, the time is near.

    TOB CAN get this turned around. But he can’t be stubborn about it.

  11. hball57 10/21/2009 at 10:12 PM #

    “You’ve got to know when to pull the plug. If the past 3 weeks are a trend, the time is near.”

    I always look at comments like this as being half the story. As fans, we can only focus on Saturdays. But the true way to fix the problem happens Sunday – Friday when we can’t see what the underlying problems are. If you can’t see that, how can we be so arrogant to know who is responsible for what?

    We have a DB coach, don’t we? Has anyone called for his head? Look, I don’t know enough about coaching football to tell anyone who is right or wrong. I love the way Coach O’Brien breaks things down on his coaches show; I believe him and I believe in him.

  12. gcpack 10/22/2009 at 12:33 AM #

    I agree with you hball. TOB knows what he is doing.
    I find it refreshing that he isn’t overreacting to the bad performances
    and to some fans freaking out about making coaching changes.

    I think that all the years TOB, Bible and Archer have, along with the other coaches, just shows they are remaining calm under fire.

    Light years away from saying something stupid to cover his ass like someone else we might know who used to coach football here.

  13. robzucc 10/22/2009 at 4:25 AM #

    Daily Update Says:
    October 21st, 2009 at 9:18 am

    Ed89: TOB is the one who built that program. TOB’s last class (seniors this year) was just ranked 3rd in the conference by the ACCSJ. He may not be successful at NC State, but using the success of BC is actually defending TOB because he has been largely responsible for their success the last 2.5 years.

    The guy that is coaching BC right now is the whole reason that they
    were and are successful. I had this bad feeling when TOB couldn’t get
    him to leave BC at that time and now I know why.
    I’m getting really tired of the shape of this program was left in. There are many colleges that are left with nothing and make due with what they have. They at least are competitive. Do you really think TOB isn’t going to say he is on the right track? It’s his career and anyone of us would tell our boss I’m sure I wont let that happen again. Right? Sure, just about anyone will eventually succeed if given enough time. This is a complete joke.I’m moving on to Basketball season.
    Sometimes when your right about a feeling it can be the worst feeling
    in the world.

  14. robzucc 10/22/2009 at 4:40 AM #

    You’ve got to know when to pull the plug. If the past 3 weeks are a trend, the time is near.”

    I always look at comments like this as being half the story. As fans, we can only focus on Saturdays. But the true way to fix the problem happens Sunday – Friday when we can’t see what the underlying problems are. If you can’t see that, how can we be so arrogant to know who is responsible for what?

    We have a DB coach, don’t we? Has anyone called for his head? Look, I don’t know enough about coaching football to tell anyone who is right or wrong. I love the way Coach O’Brien breaks things down on his coaches show; I believe him and I believe in him.

    The DB coach doesn’t make calls on gameday, It’s the DC responsibility to do that. Also, Its Archers responsibility to oversee during practice what the hell is going on. Not micromanage but, actually go that extra mile when you are losing to Wake, Duke, and BC for 3 weeks in a row.
    You do whatever you need to do to win the damn game and, if that means the HC overrides the DC then it is what it is.
    As much as some of you are so sure TOB and Archer are going to get it going, we others have just as much knowledge as you all do about how they will not. Who is to say who is correct! We can disagree but, if you base on track records alone then your putting all your eggs in one basket. To top it all off Archer really doesn’t have such a great track record and, like I stated earlier TOB had some great coaches especially on defense around him at BC. Records are one thing year in and
    year out but how they were achieved and who gets the credit
    or the blame is another story. I wonder why Beamer was going to leave if the university didn’t start paying his assistants more money.

  15. PackerInRussia 10/22/2009 at 6:55 AM #

    Raiders fan,
    As someone on an ESPN message board said: Dan Snyder is Al Davis, except he decided to just skip the winning part.
    Chargers fan,
    Raiders fan and I feel your pain on Norv Turner. After Rivers started playing, I became a Chargers “fan” (I use the term loosely. I cheer for them and want them to win and want Rivers to do well, but don’t follow them closely).

  16. PackerInRussia 10/22/2009 at 7:01 AM #

    I threw this out there on the message board after the Duke loss. This is by no means meant to defend a loss to Duke. But perhaps the perception that Duke ought to be lightyears behind us isn’t correct either. This is based purely on recruiting rankings without any other analysis of what needs were met in each class, who qualified, etc.
    Final recruiting rankings over the past 4 years according to scout.com:
    2005:
    NC State – 23rd (Willie Young & Andre Brown counting for the second time as they already factored into the 2004 class as well)
    Duke – 31st
    2006:
    Duke – 36th (Thaddeus Lewis in this class)
    NC State – 42nd (highest-ranked player being Justin Burke)
    2007:
    NC State – 60th (Dominique Ellis one of the gems in this class)
    Duke – tied for 64th with someone else
    2008:
    NC State – 29th
    Duke – 71st
    2009:
    NC State – 39th
    Duke – 52nd

    Only the past two classes have us at a large advantage in recruiting, but of those two classes, how many are contributors?

  17. Rick 10/22/2009 at 10:52 AM #

    “Once again, you have to put this in perspective, this is not like losing to a Duke team before Coach Cutcliffe got there. If that had happened I would still be on suicide watch. We gotta give TOB time to do his thing.”

    So Cutcliff can improve them in two years but we are supposed to give TOB time? you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth. In two more years Dule will have flown past us.

  18. Sam92 10/22/2009 at 12:29 PM #

    yes, it really is the pits — the third year is when marked improvement should be seen, and we are getting worse. it’s bad news all around, but I think we have no choice but to stick with TOB at least one more year.

    besides, what hope do we have if Lee Fowler is in charge when we are trying to find a replacement for TOB?

  19. packplantpath 10/22/2009 at 3:55 PM #

    Rick,

    See PackerinRussia’s post above. The talent level at duke isn’t nearly as bad as you seem to think, and they have not suffered through nearly as much attrition as we have. It is pretty equal to ours and their strengths just happened to match up with our biggest weakness. That equals an ugly game.

    So, yes, good coaching plus decent senior players is something Duke hasn’t had in quite a while. Look at UNC. They have consistently out recruited Chuck and the TOB era is back and forth, with the edge to UNC (I think). Yet, they have the opposite problem as we do. They have zero offense. If anything, they are playing like a Bunting team (as I say this, I bet the blow out FSU tonight….). I don’t think Davis is a bad coach, he just hasn’t put it together yet over there (and I hope he never does).

    Reasonable people can disagree, but I don’t think it is time to pull the plug on TOB yet. I think his early success skewed our expectations a bit.

  20. Wulfpack 10/22/2009 at 9:46 PM #

    I wasn’t talking about pulling the plug on TOB. Archer is the guy that needs to go. Our defense has been clueless for the last month. We were a bad defense all last year. So what gives?

    TOB has proven that he knows what he’s doing. However, if he keeps Archer around, he’s lost it.

  21. packplantpath 10/23/2009 at 7:46 AM #

    I thought I should come back and clarify a bit. There is no excusing the manner of the loss. The talent level at duke is not so far ahead of us to justify the score. A close game where we lost by 3-7 points would be much more palatable and explainable to talent. The blowout kinda hurts that argument (and my feelings).

  22. Rick 10/23/2009 at 11:39 AM #

    “Reasonable people can disagree, but I don’t think it is time to pull the plug on TOB yet. I think his early success skewed our expectations a bit.”

    I do not think it matters if we fire TOB so I am ambivalent about it.

    I have to admit to being shocked that two losing seasons would raise our expectations.

  23. bradleyb123 10/23/2009 at 4:52 PM #

    We didn’t play Duke two years ago. If we did, we would have lost to them then, too. We were right AWFUL. We have improved. We’re just young and inexperienced on defense (in the secondary) this year. We lost three projected starters on defense before the season even started, and we were already weak. We’ve since lost at least one more starter on defense to injury.

    This is a bad year, but only because of the bad defense. Florida State has an awful defense, and very nearly lost to a bad Carolina team as a result. Good offense is not enough. Duke has no defense, either, but theirs is just a little better than ours. I refuse to believe their offense is better than ours. Our weak defense just made them look like supermen out there that day.

    It was not so long ago that people questioned if we could even score (not win, just SCORE!) on a D-1 opponent. TOB is building something. This is only his third year. Give him time. Cut hasn’t made Duke some kind of powerhouse. He’s just blessed with a QB that was here before him that is making him look really good. If Duke had an average QB, we wouldn’t be having ANY of this conversation right now. Cut didn’t make Thad Lewis the star that he is. Next year will be telling for Duke. When Thad is gone, will they still win many games? (And this year they’ve only won three anyway… it’s not like they’re GREAT by any stretch.)

    Back on point: Give TOB a chance. Butch is having a bad year, too. But they’re both bringing in great recruits. It’s just not all in place yet.

  24. transylvania 10/24/2009 at 10:54 AM #

    anyone know what’s going with Fre’shad Hunter? Not listed as a commit on scout.com any more…

  25. PackerInRussia 10/24/2009 at 3:44 PM #

    check out the forum. one of the threads at the top talks about him.

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