DT to present MJ at HOF

For any of you younger set who just can’t grasp what you’ve been told regarding David Thompson and his influence on the game of basketball, the news that Michael Jordan has chosen Thompson to present him at his Hall of Fame induction should help bring you a long a bit.

As usual, Caulton Tudor shows that he has the deepest, most natural command of the Atlantic Coast Conference landscape of anyone in the current media. (Link)

ACC basketball always has been nothing if not ironic.

At the very dawn of things, Lennie Rosenbluth was scheduled to play for N.C. State but didn’t hit it off with Everett Case and instead signed on with Frank McGuire at North Carolina.

David Thompson, as a kid in the Shelby area, idolized Carolina’s Charles Scott. But when the time came to sign a scholarship, Thompson opted for the Wolfpack.

As Thompson, in 1973-74, led State to the league’s first NCAA title since Rosenbluth and the Tar Heels in 1956-57, Michael Jordan was growing up in Wilmington patterning his game after that of Thompson.

Jordan drove straight past Raleigh to attend Carolina, where he hit the winning shot in the ACC’s next national title win — Carolina over Georgetown in 1981-82.

In the seemingly endless circle that marks college basketball in this state, it comes as no shock that Jordan has picked Thompson as a Hall of Fame inductor at this weekend’s ceremonies in Springfield, Mass.

Thompson was surprised, however. His reaction, upon getting the call, was “Wow!” according to news reports.

To many of those who were fortunate enough to see both play at the college level, Thompson still rates as the No. 1 player in ACC history. During an era of freshman ineligibility, his accomplishments over a three-year varsity career were staggering.

Thompson, with his spectacular leaping and shooting abilities, also emerged just as the regional television game was exploding in popularity.

Jordan, upon arriving at Chapel Hill in 1981, freely admitted to having been a State fan. “Any time David Thompson was on television, I was glued to that screen,” Jordan said.

It was the same way Thompson followed Scott’s three-year career as the first ACC African-American player with star status at Carolina in the late 1960s.

“I always pretended to be Charlie Scott when I was out practicing by myself,” Thompson said. “If he made a shot, I wanted to make it the same way.”

Those three players, as did Rosenbluth earlier, turned young players into a steady wave of talent that still reaps big dividends for the league that was lucky to land them.

Yahoo Sports has a nice national feature and interview with DT that can be seen by clicking here.

“Even when I go out to speak, that’s how they introduce me, ‘Michael Jordan before Michael Jordan,’ ” Thompson said. “Charles Barkley once said, ‘[Thompson] took the game to the air. … He got people out of their seats.’ I saw a lot of my game in Michael Jordan’s game.”

Thompson first began to hear about Jordan when Jordan was playing at Laney High School in Wilmington, N.C. He knew Jordan was not only considering North Carolina, but N.C. State, too, in large part because Thompson played there. The Wolfpack, however, never asked Thompson to help recruit Jordan, who went to help lead the Tar Heels to the NCAA title as a freshman in 1982. The Wolfpack won the national championship a year later.

“We would have had a couple more championship banners up there if he came,” Thompson said.

[snip]

“The kids treated him like he was the Beatles or Michael Jackson,” Thompson said. “Little girls would shake. He was really good with the kids. They didn’t really know who I was, but once he told them I was an inspiration for him they would look at me in a different light. They wanted my autograph. One kid said, ‘You must have been really good if Michael Jordan said that about you.’ ”

Thompson won’t have to give a lengthy speech for Jordan; those days are over for the Hall, replaced by video tributes. But NBA Entertainment recently interviewed Thompson for an hour for Jordan’s introduction, and Thompson will attend all the ceremonies in which Jordan is honored, and stand with him during his induction speech.

Thompson is still overwhelmed Jordan picked him to help celebrate his greatest honor. Over Smith, Jackson, Barkley and everyone else.

“I’ve been smiling ever since,” Thompson said. “I’ve been telling people and they’ve been congratulating me like I was getting in. I’m already in.”

“I built my talents on the shoulders of someone else’s talent,” Jordan wrote in his 1998 autobiography, “For the Love of the Game.” “I believe greatness is an evolutionary process that changes and evolves era to era. Without Julius Erving, David Thompson, Walter Davis, and Elgin Baylor, there would never have been a Michael Jordan. I evolved from them.”

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24 Responses to DT to present MJ at HOF

  1. Alpha Wolf 09/08/2009 at 9:24 AM #

    Greatness is greatness, and for the ACC, David Thompson is the sterling example of it. I saw him play, and were he put in a time machine and transported into modern ACC hoops, he’d still be the best. Thompson not only had the physical skills, he had a competitive will that he would not be beaten by anyone.

    One has to wonder what would have been had Thompson not fallen prey to his weaknesses, namely alcohol and cocaine. Unfortunately, that destroyed his career, but one could fairly surmise that he would have been the prototype of NBA greatness had he kept himself together throughout his professional career.

    Jordan sets the high water mark for the NBA and one would have to wonder how he would have done were he to have played for Valvano or for Lefty Driesell, two coaches he played against that were unafraid to let a player loose and to showcase their skills. Dean Smith kept Jordan within a tight team concept, and as a result, his scoring numbers pale in comparison to Thompson (and a number of other players like Len Bias) but he was cut from the same cloth of competitiveness and basketball skills as was Thompson.

    Watching the 1983 team beat Jordan and company was a thing of beauty. It would be analogous to beating last year’s team when it mattered.

  2. mafpack 09/08/2009 at 9:36 AM #

    And THIS is why I make statefansnation.com my first visit each morning – fantastic post SFN – thanks for making my day better! 🙂

  3. highstick 09/08/2009 at 9:45 AM #

    At least someone over there has some class! Way to go, MJ!

  4. old13 09/08/2009 at 9:58 AM #

    I think it is a great choice by MJ – especially with the story behind it of DT being MJ’s idol coming up. And knowing the complete story on DT (the fall AND the recovery), it’s really great to see him be honored in this way – especially by a Tarhole!

  5. PackMan97 09/08/2009 at 10:41 AM #

    Sometimes it’s hard to dislike MJ….and then I remember he’s a Tarheel. It’s really not that hard after all 🙂

    It’s a shame DT made some bad choices after getting into the professional leagues. 🙁

  6. GoldenChain 09/08/2009 at 10:56 AM #

    This is what’s sad about this:
    “He knew Jordan was not only considering North Carolina, but N.C. State, too, in large part because Thompson played there. The Wolfpack, however, never asked Thompson to help recruit Jordan, …”

    Just think about that. A team with Lowe, Whit, Bailey, and MJ?!

    It’s also sad that so many current Wolfpackers (like those under 37yo) don’t know what its like to have their college team palying tooth and nail as the elite of the ACC.

  7. tobaccordshow 09/08/2009 at 11:16 AM #

    If you think about it, perhaps David Thompson is the last great collegiate basketball player. With so many options open to freshmen to dart for the NBA, it is very likely that the college game will EVER see anyone to the standard of David Skywalker Thompson.

    It is bittersweet to think, bitter only in that his full potential was never realized and he’s STILL the greatest to ever don a jersey of a university.

  8. SMD 09/08/2009 at 11:28 AM #

    I had the extreme privilege of spending a morning in the home of Coach John Wooden one time (I was helping produce a video that he appeared in…)

    While the crew set up, he and I went into his office and shot the breeze for 30 minutes or so and when he found out I was a State guy – he lit up talking about DT. In fact, he said to my face, that DT is one of the few players that he ever tried to have his team specifically prepare for. Most of the time they practiced running their own plays to a T.

    (He also told me about coaching against Coach Case back in Indiana high school ball, but that’s another story….)

    In sum, DT was the best ever.

  9. SMD 09/08/2009 at 12:35 PM #

    Does anyone have the story (or even the urban legend) on why we didn’t recruit MJ? Between his junior and senior year of HS would have been the Sloan-Valvano transition, but you’d think he would have already been on Sloan’s radar. Or would he? 😉

  10. packpowerfan 09/08/2009 at 1:14 PM #

    SMD, your experience correlates with what Bill Walton said in an interview. He said that Wooden never named players on opposing teams, and he never referred to the players themselves. It was always “We have to do this to neutralize this part of the game.” Walton said that the practices leading up to their games against State, Wooden said very plainly “We aren’t going to stop Thompson, but we’ve got to slow him up.” It was the ONLY time in Walton’s UCLA career that Wooden mentioned an opposing player by name. Amazing stuff.

  11. CannonballJunior 09/08/2009 at 1:49 PM #

    SMD, neat story about Wooden – you should tell us more sometime re: Case and whatever else.

    Re: the story/legend of why we didn’t recruit MJ…be assured we absolutely did recruit him.

    BTW, class move by MJ.

  12. packpowerfan 09/08/2009 at 3:12 PM #

    Cannonball, supposedly UNX recruited him heavily beginning his junior year at Laney. We jumped in his senior year, but by that time the baby blue hook had already been set in his mouth.

    Again…SUPPOSEDLY.

  13. GAWolf 09/08/2009 at 3:36 PM #

    If Thompson could have dunked, legally, or if could have come just a few to ten years later, would the entire landscape of Tobacco Road basketball be different today? Certainly if Jordan had come to Raleigh… and the there’s the epitome of being a State fan. Ifs and buts and cans of nuts…

  14. bradleyb123 09/08/2009 at 3:58 PM #

    *** OFF-TOPIC ALERT ***

    It seems the Saturday thread is about dead, so I’ll post this here. I’m concerned about something I’ve noticed, and I wanted to know if anyone else has noticed it, too.

    It seems to me that our players are just a little *TOO* upbeat after that loss. I mean, I’m all for confidence and all. But I’m concerned that I’m not seeing much urgency from our players. They almost seem so confident that they expect to just be successful going forward without even trying. In postgame interviews, some of them were all smiles, almost laughing at times. It’s one thing to know you can do better, but I just thought they should have been more upset over this loss.

    I’d like to see more FIRE in their bellies. What I’m afraid of is another 2-6 record (well, probably not THAT bad) before they finally wake up and get hungry. It seems to me that they THINK they have arrived, when they have a long way to go before they “arrive”. I’m reminded of TOB’s predecessor (who shall remain nameless) that had us filled with false confidence. I’m not saying TOB is filling them with false hope. I just didn’t understand the relatively jovial atmosphere of the postgame interviews, given the ugly game we had just played.

    I want them to FEEL like their record is now 2-6 so they start their “new season” BEFORE they actually need to.

    As for our next opponent, I know Murray State is a team we *SHOULD* beat. But they did just score 66 points on someone. So they must be doing SOMETHING right. I hope we don’t just dance into this game and come away with an embarrassing loss, even if this team is a capable team. It would still be embarrassing if we found a way to lose this one.

    Bradley, why don’t you post this in the Forums? It would undoubtedly get a lot more play and would be in context of the subject at hand. –Alpha.

  15. Texpack 09/08/2009 at 4:55 PM #

    I can relate to Jordan imitating David Thompson. After Thompson hit the go ahead basket in the 2nd OT against UCLA on a little cross over dribble move that ended with a pull up jumper just left of the lane, I pretty much perfected that move. Three years ago, at the tender age of 45 I was still able to abuse some poor 16 year old kid with that move during a pick up game. My son, who was 14 at the time, was dumbfounded.

    Michael Jordan was phenomenal to watch from floor level while I was a student at State. I only got to see David Thompson play in person 3-4 times at the North-South Doubleheaders in Charlotte. There has never been a greater college player than DT. Kudos to Jordan for his acknowledgment of DT in such a visible way.

  16. highstick 09/08/2009 at 8:02 PM #

    For you new guys who haven’t been around as long, I was fortunate to have come back after Army to finish my last 2 1/2 years at State in the fall of 1970. One of Cowdog’s baseball teammates, who was the younger brother of one of my high school teammates, brought DT over to my apartment(not to be confused with “My Apartment” one afternoon when both were freshmen. I’d never heard of DT at that time, but the Red & White game was that night and it didn’t take long to find out that the stories I’d heard that afternoon about “picking quarters of the top of the backboard” were not out of the question.

    I was in Raleigh from August 70 until late 75 in school and working and it was a special time to go to class with some of the players and watch them during that era.

    Wish I could post a picture that one of our young female staff and her group had taken with MJ in a bar in Miami. Mikey had a bunch of cuties in that picture.

  17. OwenDorm83 09/08/2009 at 9:03 PM #

    Tex, I’ve seen you play basketball…

    Texpack Says:
    September 8th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
    I can relate to Jordan imitating David Thompson. After Thompson hit the go ahead basket in the 2nd OT against UCLA on a little cross over dribble move that ended with a pull up jumper just left of the lane, I pretty much perfected that move.

  18. ChiefJoJo 09/08/2009 at 9:56 PM #

    Class move by MJ. I know this won’t be popular here, but I think MJ is the type of guy who transcends State/Carolina. He and DT are more important to the sport of basketball than they are to either schools, and this confirms it.

  19. McCallum 09/09/2009 at 7:00 AM #

    To hell with Jordan.

    McCallum

  20. Texpack 09/09/2009 at 9:05 AM #

    You’ve seen me play “Ego Ball” on the 8 ft goal at the elementary school in Cary after a few beers. You’ve never seen me locked in and going for the kill.

    OwenDorm83 Says:
    September 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Tex, I’ve seen you play basketball…

    Texpack Says:
    September 8th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
    I can relate to Jordan imitating David Thompson. After Thompson hit the go ahead basket in the 2nd OT against UCLA on a little cross over dribble move that ended with a pull up jumper just left of the lane, I pretty much perfected that move.

  21. rtpack24 09/09/2009 at 12:05 PM #

    I am fortunate enough to know both MJ and DT and I think this is super. If you think about all the people Mike could have picked to do this and to pick David to introduce him to the pinnacle of one’s career is great for all involved.

  22. bradleyb123 09/09/2009 at 1:02 PM #

    ^^^ “Bradley, why don’t you post this in the Forums? It would undoubtedly get a lot more play and would be in context of the subject at hand. –Alpha.”

    Good point, I’ll check that out. I haven’t been to the forums much as of yet.

  23. MrPlywood 09/09/2009 at 3:26 PM #

    More than one person expressed displeasure at ESPN for their headline link to this story: “Jordan picks ex-NC State player for HOF”. Seriously, they couldn’t put David’s name in there? Of course there was a UNX wonk on the message board trying to defend ESPN… pffffft

  24. OwenDorm83 09/10/2009 at 9:49 PM #

    Texpack said: You’ve never seen me locked in and going for the kill.

    …Scary thought!

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