Projected NC State Basketball Roster

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Since the news of Justin Gainey’s departure for Elon became public today, we thought we would also update from previous roster changes entry.

On paper, State’s starting lineup looks like: Javier Gonzalez at the point, Brown at the 2-guard, C.J. Williams at small forward, Howell at the 4 and Smith at center.

Off the bench State has guards Julius Mays, Farnold Degand and Wood. At forward, Dennis Horner and Johnny Thomas are the other returning scholarship players, plus Davis.

Additionally, Ken Tysiac has added a great blog entry about the Wolfpack’s prospects next year that can be seen here.

When you look at the roster the Wolfpack has returning, it’s impossible to deduce that the team will be better off without Costner and reserve guard Trevor Ferguson, who also is leaving.

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As a whole, this roster will not scare North Carolina when it gets off the bus next season at the Smith Center. Against the rest of the ACC, N.C. State might hold up OK because there is a lot of backcourt talent leaving from the traditional middle-of-the-pack schools.

Toney Douglas, Tyrese Rice and Jack McClinton all were seniors, and Maryland’s Greivis Vasquez has already announced his intention to test the NBA waters.

But hoping the competition falls back to N.C. State’s level is not a where the Wolfpack hoped to be in Sidney Lowe’s fourth season.

Coach Sidney Lowe’s incoming recruiting class might turn out to be his best yet. But the members of his past classes will be sophomores and juniors next season comprising the bulk of N.C. State’s roster. Lowe’s initial difficulties gaining a foothold as a recruiter after coming to N.C. State from the NBA look like they will come home to roost next season.

Projected 2009-2010 NC State Basketball Roster

Senior Class
(1) Dennis Horner (F)
(2) Farnold Degand (PG)

Junior Class
(3) Javi Gonzalez (PG)
(4) Tracy Smith (4F)

Sophomore Class
(5) Johnny Thomas (Wing)
(6) Julius Mays (PG/SG)
(7) CJ Williams (Wing)

Freshman Class
(8) Scott Wood (Wing)
(9) Lorenzo Brown (PG/SG)
(10) Richard Howell (PF)
(11) Josh Davis (WF)
(12) Jordan Vandenberg (C)
(13) Hold for top player if we can get the commitment

2010 Commits
(12) Ryan Harrow (PG)
(13) CJ Leslie (hopeful)
(1) Departure of Dennis Horner if no other scholarships issued for 2009 class
(2) Departure of Farnold Degand if no other scholarships issued for 2009 class

2011 Commits
(1) Departure of Javi Gonzalez
(2) Departure of Tracy Smith

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113 Responses to Projected NC State Basketball Roster

  1. frankiepack 05/01/2009 at 3:16 PM #

    I can attest to all that Josh Davis is 6’4.

  2. pakfanistan 05/01/2009 at 3:38 PM #

    I can attest to all that Josh Davis is 6′4.

    And the picture on PP?

    I realize there’s a little foreshortening going on there, but it sure looks like he’s at least a little taller than Adams and Ross. Adams is listed as 6-5 and Davis is listed as 20 lbs heavier than him, even though in the picture they look like they have about the same build, which strongly suggests he’s taller.

    Unless you can point to something more definitive, I’m calling BS.

  3. bradleyb123 05/01/2009 at 6:23 PM #

    I thought Josh Davis was 6’6″

  4. pakfanistan 05/01/2009 at 6:40 PM #

    I thought Josh Davis was 6′6″

    I’ve seen claims that he’s 6’7″ or maybe even a little taller, but based on the pictures I’ve seen, I’d say 6’6″ is about right.

  5. Sw0rdf1sh 05/02/2009 at 11:51 AM #

    There is another article in the Wilmington Paper discussing Wall and his supposedly not being a good fit for area ACC schools. Read the opinion here….

    http://blogs.starnewsonline.com/default.asp?item=2371322

  6. Classof89 05/04/2009 at 8:32 AM #

    good Lord, this fallacious “well Duke gave coach K six years” argument is like the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction–it just can’t be killed.

    Look, by the conclusion of year 3 Duke had SIGNED and ON CAMPUS a complete class of nationally elite recruits at EVERY position. Do the names Johnny Dawkins, Jay Bilas, Marc Alarie, etc. ring any bells?

    Even though the sport of recruiting mania was only in its infancy in 1983, I think it’s pretty safe to say Josh Davis is not exactly in the same league as K’s MONSTER recruiting classes in 1983 and 1984 (his third and fourth years). If Lowe had a class made up of elite players at EVERY position, I’d be the first person on here calling for time for Lowe to see what he could do with the class. Fact is, we’re going into year four, and this program has SIGNIFICANT talent holes at certain positions (point guard), and some pretty serious scholarship spacing issues.

  7. bradleyb123 05/04/2009 at 8:47 AM #

    Coach K also wasn’t going up against two of the elite basketball programs right in his back yard. Nor was he coaching for a school with the horribly low basketball reputation that NC State now has.

    I’m not saying Sidney is the next John Wooden, but despite things being as bad as they are, he has just pulled in the 19th ranked recruiting class in the nation, and possibly higher than that when they include the Aussie.

    All I’m saying is give Sid a chance THIS YEAR (and this year only). What good are we doing focusing on the negative when Sid WILL be here this year. This is his year to finally prove he has righted the ship. How about we stop hindering that at every turn. I’m getting a little sick of all the useless, needless negative posts. It doesn’t do any good. Worse case, it hurts us (who knows which recruits and recruit parents are reading these boards???)

    Sid has one more year to prove something. How about we all back off, and let him have his year. If he fails, THEN we rip him a new one on these blogs and try to get him fired.

  8. MP 05/05/2009 at 12:20 PM #

    “Coach K also wasn’t going up against two of the elite basketball programs right in his back yard. Nor was he coaching for a school with the horribly low basketball reputation that NC State now has.”

    Oh yes he was. He just didn’t let it stop him.

  9. bradleyb123 05/05/2009 at 12:23 PM #

    Oh yes he was. He just didn’t let it stop him.

    Oh, K was recruiting against Duke and Carolina? My bad. I thought he was just up against Carolina in those days.

    The thing about Duke is they didn’t build anything overnight. They got better and better each year. Maybe Sid can, too. But people like you would have fired K after his third year. Keep that in mind as you make Sid’s job that much more difficult with your comments.

  10. MP 05/05/2009 at 12:51 PM #

    Let me think how to address this comment… I’ll start with your 2nd paragraph. I completely support Sidney Lowe as NC State’s coach and have by no means given up on him in spite of the inconsistent play and results. And my opinion is my opinion regardless of what anyone else thinks about him.

    Now regarding Coach K. He was recruiting against UNC and NCSU in his own backyard in the early ’80s, and that was a big deal. NC State was one of the top three ACC programs at that point in time with UNC and Virginia. NC State and UNC won national titles within Coach K’s first 4 years as coach. But he didn’t let that keep him from building a national power.

    Now regarding the current balance of power – Duke is still a strong program. However over the last 3 years or so they have not been truly elite. I would argue that NC State circa early/mid ’80s would be an equal to Duke of these most recent years. That is the basis for my original comment. If you disagree, have at it…

    BUT… that “people like you” comment of yours is completely out of line, doesn’t have anything to do with the topic, and obviously was misinformed given my support for Sidney Lowe. So I would encourage you to reconsider your comment, or otherwise to shove it.

  11. bradleyb123 05/06/2009 at 8:57 AM #

    Granted, maybe I was making you pay for the sins of others to some extent. But your first comment on this thread was “Oh yes he was. He just didn’t let it stop him.” referring to coach K recruiting in his early years.

    To me that implied Sidney IS letting it stop him (but with the 19th, and maybe higher, recruiting class coming in, I tend to disagree with that assessment of his recruiting…)

    To me, your comment was negative on Sid. So I stand by my comment and refuse to “shove it”. People like you (saying negative things about Sidney) say out of one side of your mouth that you support Sidney, but every other word out of the other side of your mouth indicate otherwise. And you’re not doing him any favors badmouthing him or being down on him at every turn.

    Coach K had not done a lot in his third year. If you want to compare apples and apples, then give Sid a few more years to be fair. Yes, K brought in some great players around his fourth year. Sid has some good ones, too. But you can’t compare a group of guys that have yet to play a minute of basketball with a group of guys that did great things for K. Don’t be so sure this group of guys are not the foundation for Sidney that those other guys were for K.

  12. MP 05/06/2009 at 12:49 PM #

    “People like you (saying negative things about Sidney) say out of one side of your mouth that you support Sidney, but every other word out of the other side of your mouth indicate otherwise. And you’re not doing him any favors badmouthing him or being down on him at every turn.”

    To clarify my comment, again:

    (1) I disagree with your assessment that Coach K was not going up against two very strong programs in his own backyard.

    (2) Coach K succeeded in spite of being in a tough neighborhood because he was determined to build a powerful program, i.e. he didn’t let the challenge stop him.

    I believe that Sidney Lowe has the same determination to build NC State into a powerful program. Why wouldn’t he? This is where he won a national championship. I am as far from being a badmouther of Sidney Lowe as you’re going to find.

    Look, I disagreed with your statement regarding Coach K’s circumstances. You misunderstood and took it personally. And that’s that.

  13. bradleyb123 05/06/2009 at 5:16 PM #

    Look, I disagreed with your statement regarding Coach K’s circumstances. You misunderstood and took it personally. And that’s that.

    OK, I guess I read more into that comment than you meant. But I don’t take things like this personally. I have no hard feelings over any of this. Whether someone likes or dislikes Sid is up to them. I just think Sid needs a lot of defending on these blogs, so I try to defend him when needed.

    I thought your comment sounded like a compliment to K and a slam on Sid at the same time, so I kicked into “defend Sid” mode. If we were only talking about K, that statement wouldn’t have sounded sarcastic. Since the context was that we were comparing K with Sid, it came across like you were sarcastically saying that K didn’t let it stop him, BUT SIDNEY DID. But you didn’t mean it like that, so I digress.

    Not talking about you now, but even if people don’t want Sid as coach, what is the point in running him down NOW? He’s not going away before the ’09-’10 season. At best, it causes no harm. At worst, it could hurt his recruiting. For that reason, I just want the anti-Sidney forces to pipe down until we reach the point in the upcoming season that it is clear that he needs to be gone. That will be the time to call for his termination (if we get to that point), not now.

    OK, this dead horse has been severely bludgeoned. Have a good one!

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