NC State All-Sports Look-In

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From February 16, 2004’s edition of The Wolfpacker magazine’s Q&A with NC State Athletics Director, Lee Fowler: More from this interview by clicking here

Question: What are your goals as an athletics director for the upcoming year, in terms of improving athletic programs and in improving facilities? How will those goals be measured? – Herb, Archdale, NC Class of 1987

Fowler:

My goals are the same as when I came to NC State three years ago: we want to be top-25 program in all sports. I maintain that goal, and I feel it is very reachable. I think we are moving in that direction in most sports…

…We have to ask our coaches to take their programs toward those levels. But we also have to provide the facilities for them to at that level if we are going to demand those results. And I think that ‘t what we are doing.

By the end of ‘05, we will have most of our programs in the types of facilities that coaches can be held accountable to. I don’t think that was the case when I first got here. I think we had teams competing against people with a lot more assets than we had.”

Question: How do you determine and measure what levels of success each program reachs? Does this vary from program to program? When and how is this barometer evaluated?” – Mo, Greensboro, NC

Fowler:

“Every sport is judged by their wins and losses, and how they compete on a national level. I also consider if they are competitive against teams on their own level, and see what they do against teams that are already where you want to be. As an administrator, my job is to not be quite as emotional as fans, even though I go up and down like the fans do with wins and losses of different teams. I have to step back and observe the progress of the program.

2008-2009 Standings by sport through April 5, 2009

Baseball: 6-9, 16-15, 9th in the ACC
Football: Finished 4-4, 6-7, Tied for 5th in the ACC
Men’s Basketball: 6-10, 16-14 10th in the ACC
Women’s Basketball: 5-9, 13-17 tie for 8th in the ACC
Gymnastics: Finished 1st of 8 (EAGL)
Men’s Soccer: 3-5, 9-9-1, tied for 7th of 9 teams in ACC
Women’s Soccer: 0-10, 8-12, 11th of 11 teams in the ACC
Softball: 3-6, 18-16, 6th of 8 teams in the ACC
Men’s Swimming and Diving: 3-3, 6-3, 6th of 10 teams in the ACC
Women’s Swimming and Diving 2-3, 5-5, 8th of 11 teams in the ACC
Men’s Tennis: 3-6, 9-12, 9th of 12 teams in the ACC
Women’s Tennis: 1-7, 4-14, 12th of 12 teams in the ACC
Volleyball: 3-17, 9-26, 10th of 12 teams in the ACC
Wrestling: 0-5, 4-15-1, 6th of 6 teams in the ACC
Men’s Golf: N/A; Finished 2nd – 6th in several tournaments
Women’s Golf: N/A; Finished in bottom half of just about every tournament played
Track and Field: Men’s Indoor Track – 6th of 12 ACC Teams
Women’s Indoor Track – 6th of 12 ACC Teams
Cross Country: Men’s – 2nd of 12 ACC Teams
Women’s – 10th of 12 ACC Teams
Rifle Rifle 1 of 8 (SEARC)
Rifle 7 of 7 (GARC)

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61 Responses to NC State All-Sports Look-In

  1. Rick 04/07/2009 at 7:25 AM #

    “But that is not exactly the case, as a friend of mine talked to Fowler and was complaining about this very issue and Fowler’s response was (and I summarize based on my buddies explanation): The reporting methods for schools leave room for a lot of interpretaion. NCSU reports only the revenues and costs associated directly with the athletic department and do not report other revenues from independent sources such as the Wolfpack Club.”

    Just when you think he cannot be any dumber, he mitigates the one thing that explains his performance.

    Putz

  2. charger17 04/07/2009 at 7:41 AM #

    Okay, it’s time WE did something about this. Please shoot this idea down if it’s just plain stupid, but . . .

    What would happen if we threatened to organize a boycott of being in CF for the September 3rd, nationally-televised, season-opener-to-the-NCAA-College-Football-season NC STATE GAME! We state our demands very plainly, either LF is gone by game time, or you can listen to the crickets chirping. We would have to also clearly state that we totally support our football team, but enough is enough. Someone needs to quit talking and bite the bullet and do something about this trainwreck!

    Of course, there will still be a small percentage of people who attend the game, fine. And it wouldn’t do anything to revenues. The point would be whether ESPN would still carry the game and if they did, everyone would know that Wolfpack Nation DEMANDS a change!

  3. wpackman33 04/07/2009 at 8:02 AM #

    charger17, you should be working:-)

    Yea, Lee’s got to go. its absolutely ridiculous.

    Hey, anybody heard anything new with him gettin outta here?

  4. Greywolf 04/07/2009 at 8:41 AM #

    What IS all this about cutting donations to the WPC as a way to influence the BOT? Hello! I can hear them now, “Well, the fans finally woke up. They see it like we do. Sports aren’t very important at NCSU.”
    `
    Wanna do something to get the BOT’s attention? Cut donations to the school, to the source of professor’s salaries. THAT, ladies and gentlemen, would get their attention.

  5. beowolf 04/07/2009 at 8:44 AM #

    Thanks for the perspective. This is exactly the type of objective post that would cause the monkeys on PP to throw up their “you aren’t a true fan” and “Fowler is doing fine” BS.
    It is very possible to have an AD who can raise money/keep a budget and win. In fact, they should go together nicely. With Fowler, somehow they do not.

    If being a “true fan” of NC State basketball really means NOT expecting wins or competence or the ability to compete with the Big 4, then I have never been “a true fan of NC State.” Moreover, I didn’t realize how many true fans of NC State wear blue and yell things like “Go Heels!” and “Go Duke!”

  6. wpackman33 04/07/2009 at 10:25 AM #

    Interesting thing i came a cross in my email a few minutes ago. I sent Fowler an email this morning, not so much to tell him what i think because i know he doesn’t care, but more for my benefit of blowing off a little steam. i actually used the graph that is above and ask LF if he was okay with that and if he had any standards.
    He (or whoever answers his emails) didn’t answer specifics, which i didn’t expect them too but they said, “I have recieved this email exactly from others today.”

    I honestly wonder how much of this does LF hear about and how does he rationalize it, or even cope with it. i’m not attacking him as a person, but i am as an AD. He’s horrible, and why doesn’t he understand that when it is in plain sight, right before his eyes. (BTW, thanks for that graph above – you can’t get any plainer than that.)

  7. WolftownVA81 04/07/2009 at 11:31 AM #

    I posted this on another thread but it probably belongs here.

    Our leadership apparently does not think we are capable of winning a National Championship or even competing with our neighbors. Or perhaps they think that stating we can will put too much pressure on themselves to perform. In either case, we need to clean house and get rid of these losers with their defeatest attitudes. I want NCSU to excell in all areas including athletics. Please BOT, make a change and bring us a visionary who will make the entire athletics department performance based. The one exception to this comment is Coach O’Brian. Thanks for being a beacon of hope.

  8. bluelena69 04/07/2009 at 12:37 PM #

    One needs to look no farther than the way we honor and treat the tradition (albeit almost ancient historical memories, at this point) we DO have to see how much this University values success. I have never seen a school that has done as poorly at NC State in honoring its past successes. Any celebration of an NC State anniversary or milestone in recent years has been nothing short of an insulting, poorly thought-out, embarrassing, half-assed lip service to tradition. Its what we get when the school is led by a bunch of incompetent, good-at-nothing longnecks. They cannot do anything right, but they don’t care because they are unaccountable to anyone.

  9. bluelena69 04/07/2009 at 12:39 PM #

    ^^^Wow, he (or his representative) cannot even write a proper sentence.

  10. Zen Wolf 04/07/2009 at 1:05 PM #

    We have a strong leader at NC STATE and his name is Tom O’Brien. Make him the Athletic Director. He can Hire Russell Wilson after he graduates and slowly groom him for that position. I think Russell would attract top notch coaches and top notch athletes. I think that both Tom and Russell are what NC STATE should stand for and show case. Give Johnny Evans a job in there somewhere too.

  11. Classof89 04/07/2009 at 6:59 PM #

    ^
    Head coaches no longer allowed to be Athletics Directors at schools in the University of North Carolina system…the so-called “Valvano” rule…

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