RTC: Seth Curry could save Lowe’s job?

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It was announced yesterday that Seth Curry, the nation’s #1 scoring freshman and Stephon Curry’s brother, plans to transfer from Liberty to seek a school where he can compete at a higher level.  Rush The Court has all that you need on the topic including some interesting analysis.

After being lightly recruited out of high school (when will scouts and college coaches learn), Curry led all freshman in scoring at 20.2 PPG. Curry has not listed any of his potential choices and college coaches are not allowed to comment on potential transfers so at the very least Seth will keep college basketball message boards abuzz for the next couple of weeks.

When you read the entry you will see the news that it appears Curry may be ACC-bound.

Any guesses on where he is headed? There are a couple interesting potential legacy destinations: Davidson (replace his brother) or Virginia Tech (his father’s alma mater–helping Seth Greenberg save some face and get in the NCAA tournament, but that bridge may have been burned). Or will Seth go to another big-name program? There are plenty of other programs that could use a guy who averaged over 20 PPG as a freshman and averaged 25 PPG on 55% FG in 2 games against ACC opponents (Clemson and Virginia) this year. I would think he would want to stay relatively close to home (Charlotte area) and be in a starring role at a place where he could take over in a year so I would think that would exclude a place like UNC or Duke, but I could see him at Wake Forest or NC State (potentially saving Sidney Lowe’s job) particularly since all of their current stars leaving by then.

RTC says the following more specifically about NC State’s program:

NC State: This would be fairly close to home and at a big-name program albeit one that has fallen a few notches since they let Herb Sendek go. This would have to be a huge addition for a program that has fallen to the #4 program in the state (possibly lower) and could save Lowe’s job.

I haven’t had any time to analyze Curry’s potential fit with the Wolfpack’s roster, although on the surface I think I would be very pleased with a de facto recruiting class in 2010 of Ryan Harrow, CJ Leslie and Seth Curry. Suddenly the Wolfpack’s roster would be very well balanced with skilled players at almost every position and the only glaring hole potentially being the need for a tall athletic wing forward (that may end up being Richard Howell if he expands his game).

JUST FOR FUN, here is how the Wolfpack’s roster COULD look:

JUST FOR FUN Projected 2010-2011 NC State Basketball Roster

Senior Class
(1) Javi Gonzalez (PG)
(2) Tracy Smith (4F)
(13) Open scholarship for JUCO post player in 2009 or for 2010 freshman

Junior Class
(3) Johnny Thomas (Wing)
(4) Julius Mays (PG/SG)
(5) CJ Williams (Wing)

Sophomore Class
(6) Scott Wood (Wing)
(7) Lorenzo Brown (PG/SG)
(8) Richard Howell (PF)
(9) Josh Davis (WF)
(10) Seth Curry (SG) [Projection for fun]

Freshman Class
(11) Ryan Harrow (PG)
(12) CJ Leslie (PF) (hopeful)
(13) Open scholarship for 2010 or for use for JUCO post player in 2009

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116 Responses to RTC: Seth Curry could save Lowe’s job?

  1. Noah 03/26/2009 at 8:17 AM #

    I hope Curry comes here. But I think it might be overstating things to say he would save Lowe’s job.

  2. Noah 03/26/2009 at 8:19 AM #

    BTW, the last thing I heard was that there was no chance of getting CJ Leslie. Has anyone heard otherwise?

  3. Sweet jumper 03/26/2009 at 8:20 AM #

    Maybe Stephen will transfer to State for his senior year, to play guard with his brother in 2010:) lol

  4. ldr of the pk 75 03/26/2009 at 8:27 AM #

    I don’t see Davidson as a likely stop. He’s already at a place where you have to win the conference title to get a shot at the national limelight.

    ACC is most likely, because of national attention and distance from parents. I think he has talent, although scoring 20 a game is lots easier at Liberty than on the national playground of the ACC.

    If nothing else, if Sid could land him, it would bring some positive attention to the Pack, and maybe entice some other higher profile talent to look at the program. Perhaps Sid can work the NBA connect through Seths father Dell.

    Just hate that we are in that part of the season where the “what ifs” are what we have to talk about. Hey, but this is Wolfpack sports.

  5. BillyTheKid 03/26/2009 at 8:31 AM #

    Why in the hell would he go to Davidson after watching his brother get killed there this year. I mean can’t he play with 4 guys from the YMCA where he is at now?!?!?

  6. Packman02 03/26/2009 at 8:36 AM #

    Noah –

    NO chance at C.J. Leslie? I thought his mother and coach commented to the N&O (really reliable source, there) that he’s still strongly considering the Pack.

    Are you referring to the comments Dave Telep made about Leslie a few days ago on 850, or another source?

    Personally, I don’t put much stock into what Telep says anymore.

  7. wolfmans brother. 03/26/2009 at 8:40 AM #

    Make no mistake about it, Curry would be a huge injection of positive media on a national level, which this programe is in dire need of right now.

    I have absolutely no information on the matter, but for some reason it just feels like a long shot. Has anyone heard anything on this or on CJ’s status???

  8. Wolfpack_1995 03/26/2009 at 8:41 AM #

    “I haven’t had any time to analyze Curry’s potential fit with the Wolfpack’s roster, although on the surface I think I would be very pleased with a de facto recruiting class in 2010 of Ryan Harrow, CJ Leslie and Seth Curry.”

    You need to probably add Bo Ingram in the mix for 2010 who could be coming in. In 2010 With Sid potentially getting Ingram in addition to having Harrow(freshman), Lo Brown(sophomore), and Gonzalez(senior) this would give Sid a very excellent backcourt/team IMO.

  9. Noah 03/26/2009 at 8:42 AM #

    I’m referring to a normally rock-solid source of information.

    I heard a couple of months ago from two sources that Leslie was going to re-open his commitment. When it became public, I asked if that meant he was looking around or if it meant that he was going somewhere else.

    One source said, “I don’t know.” The other source said, “It means he’s getting ready to commit to Memphis.”

    (Does anyone else find it odd that after being told Calipari couldn’t get his guys into school here, that we seem to be recruiting the EXACT same players?)

    When I asked about Lowe’s job security, both people said, “He needs to make a significant step forward next year. He’s out of time.”

    I won’t go into the details since it seems to irritate people so much.

  10. BillyTheKid 03/26/2009 at 8:46 AM #

    Oh please irritate us. Some of us like details and facts and I don’t think dropdeadredfred is out of bed yet anyway.

  11. rtpack24 03/26/2009 at 8:48 AM #

    I talked to D1 coach last night with ties to the Pack and State’s staff is being silent on this. Sid and Dell played together in Charlotte and Sid was asst at Cleveland where Dell also played. I have seen Seth play and he can play in the ACC. His shooting % was 42% this year but that is mainly due to the fact his team relied on him to carry the load for scoring. He is a combo guard that could use some bulking up. He is a taller than his brother with same quick release. After the Josh Davis mystery, this could be a great shot in the arm for our program.

  12. Par Shooter 03/26/2009 at 8:50 AM #

    IMO, Curry would have very little to do with saving Sid’s job since he couldn’t play next season. I really think that significant progress will have to be made next year for Sid to be here for 2010-2011 which is when Curry could first suit up. While some folks may plead for a 5th season if Harrow and Curry are going to be added to the mix I think most Pack fans are savvy enough to understand that this is total garbage. Since Dell Curry is, by all accounts, a pretty connected and intelligent guy I cannot imagine him allowing Seth to come here and sit out during what may be the coach’s last season. Too much risk that the eventual replacement won’t value Seth or play a style he likes. Gaudio at Wake is probably a safer choice for the next couple of years although I don’t think there is any chance he makes it at Wake long term.

  13. VaWolf82 03/26/2009 at 8:50 AM #

    NO chance at C.J. Leslie? I thought his mother and coach commented to the N&O (really reliable source, there) that he’s still strongly considering the Pack

    I have no inside info, but it doesn’t make sense to renounce your verbal to a school that you were still “strongly considering”.

  14. Greywolf 03/26/2009 at 8:52 AM #

    If having a lights out shooter would save Sid’s job, I really would like to see Sid honorably leave NCSU and create the space for someone who can coach. Why? There are a number of coaches who will devise defences to stuff one or 2 players.
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    Said it before, I’d like Sid to have to take the athletes he has and has coming in and win with them or not. If he does, he can coach, if not, then we will know he can’t coach. I’m not like some swamis here who knew 2 years ago he would never make it and if the AD would just listen to me, we can move forward with winning the NC with the Mid-Major coach I “know” will lead us to the promised land.

  15. wufpup76 03/26/2009 at 8:52 AM #

    I’ll say it again, Seth needs to come to Raleigh so that Sonya will be at some of the games … The last couple of times she was in the building magical things happened (ok, that *may* have had more to do with her other son – but it was still nice to see her).

    Not sure Seth announcing he would come here would automatically clinch another year (after this coming season) for Sidney, but it sure wouldn’t hurt him. A lot would still need to be showed in the coming season.

    The guys at RTC – whom I respect very much, have been on Coach Lowe for a while for the way it’s been going here. They haven’t been negative, just fair in taking him to task for some obvious shortcomings (thus far). And I don’t recall any ridiculous fawning over HWSNBN coming from them, just fair analysis. I highly recommend RTC as a daily stop during basketball season.

  16. Ed89 03/26/2009 at 8:53 AM #

    ^^(Does anyone else find it odd that after being told Calipari couldn’t get his guys into school here, that we seem to be recruiting the EXACT same players?)

    Yes, I’ve noticed it, but not exactly sure what it all means except he’s trying to rob the state of North Carolina of it’s top players. Mack is from Charlotte. One thing is obvious, Memphis is EASY. The basketball players are pampered (as they are everywhere), but the school admissions and course work are much easier than at an ACC school.

  17. packbackr04 03/26/2009 at 8:54 AM #

    curry would be a huge addition but it also brings into question
    (again) the recruitment of Josh Davis

  18. Dan 03/26/2009 at 8:54 AM #

    Hilarious, the defenders of Lowe are now changing their tune from “wait ’til next year” to “wait ’til two years from now”. Crunch—> are you serious?

    1) Seth is playing at Liberty. Liberty.
    2) Even if he is good, he’s not eligible to save anyone next year which better be Sid’s last chance. This year should have been.
    3) Stephon is f’ing awesome, but Davidson is not what it was last year when they had a rock solid PG in Jason Richards. A 2-guard isn’t saving anyone here until we have a 1.

    The only kid out there that can save Sid is going to Memphis. Unless something bizarre happens and Cal winds up at Kentucky.

  19. rtpack24 03/26/2009 at 8:56 AM #

    Regarding CJ, Kentucky is going to fire Billy in the next few days and it is no secret that they are going after Cal. So guys that have not signed loi’s could follow him there. Agree with Noah it is ironic we seem to be involved with same players as Memphis. Hopefully our staff has some knowledge on the players ability to be admitted to State. One has to wonder though since Lo Brown is 3 months from graduating and has not qualified. That is kind of scary.

  20. Wolfpack_1995 03/26/2009 at 8:57 AM #

    Gaudio at Wake stinks. He can’t coach if you happened to watch some of their meltdowns this past year. Look at the talent he has had.

    As much as Sid is dissed as a coach I believe and hopefully Dell Curry does that Sid WOULD be a much better mentor to get Seth ready for the NBA.

    Landing Seth would be a hugh influx of positive news for the Wolfpack nation.

    I am in need of some hope these days!

    Land him SID. Dino sucks!

  21. McPete 03/26/2009 at 9:05 AM #

    “Agree with Noah it is ironic we seem to be involved with same players as Memphis”

    Sid is targeting some of the same elite players that alot of schools would want. Didn’t Duke attempt to recruit John Wall a couple of months ago? But the last time i checked the roster, we didn’t have guys from Laurinburg prep on it. Hasn’t Cal gotten a couple of guys over the years from that school of dubious reputation.

  22. Ed89 03/26/2009 at 9:07 AM #

    ^^^^3) Stephon is f’ing awesome, but Davidson is not what it was last year when they had a rock solid PG in Jason Richards. A 2-guard isn’t saving anyone here until we have a 1.

    Javi will be a Senior, Harrow will be a Freshman, and Wall will be a sophomore (possibly going pro, but hey, it could happen!) Not counting Brown or Mayes who are 1/2’s. We’d have some great guards. I’m really hoping he comes to State.

    And many folks agree about Dino. There are alot of po’d Wake fans. That was an end of season meltdown of epic proportions.

  23. Packman02 03/26/2009 at 9:08 AM #

    VAWolf and Noah – thanks for the updates on Leslie. I agree that, when you look at this situation objectively, it doesn’t bode well for him ever suiting up for State.

    Curry would be huge for the school, if only for the positive press it would bring to an otherwise maligned basketball program. He’s also proven he can light up ACC competition (I use the term competition lightly – it was UVA – but it was nearly 30 points as well).

    Despite the product that was on the court for most of this season, the talent level at NC State is pretty good – MUCH better than what Curry was surrounded with at Liberty. Just my opinion, but I think this upgrade in supproting cast could serve Mr. Curry very well here, just as opponets’ concetrations on him could open up shots for the other players – in short, Seth, it’s a no-brainer to come to State!

  24. Pack Leader 03/26/2009 at 9:09 AM #

    If Sid somehow pulls this transfer out of his hat, that puts us at the top 5 of the confrence in ’10. Think if lowe could have harrow, lo brown, AND seth curry on the floor at the same time!! thats a quick bunch of guards….

    One would have to think that this could help with the john wall situation (even though i personally think his mind is already set he is just waiting for the most cameras to watch him put a hat on)

    This addition could potentially give us the best back court in the confrence… what a switch. I know some people are even more baffeled by the davis signing esp if we get Curry, but from what ive heard davis would train down on the block, not as a guard. If he could grow just an inch thats 6’7″ and thats respectable down low.

    My line-up in 2010 IF the gods finally help State

    pg- Harrow
    sg- Curry
    sf- Brown
    pf- Howell
    C- Smith

    Bench players contributing-
    Wood, Williams, Thomas

    That puts our “role players” in situations they SHOULD be in, not starters

    (Assuming Leslie doesnt come)

  25. Noah 03/26/2009 at 9:26 AM #

    Sid is targeting some of the same elite players that alot of schools would want.

    Wrong proper noun.

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