NCAAT Saturday Round of 32 Open Thread (Geaux Tigers!)

Great games late last night – in terms of excitement. Not so great for the ACC, as Wake and BC got demolished and Florida State (much like Clemson) played half asleep for most of the game, and paid the price. 3-4 in the First Round for the “mighty” ACC – with 2 of the 3 wins against Radford and Binghamton. Gruesome stuff.

Your stat of the day is zero – the number of teams that NC State beat whose seasons are still alive today.

Back to ACC suckage – Miami got blown out at Florida last night, and Baylor demolished the Hokies in Blacksburg today. Even in the NIT, the league couldn’t do squat.

Challenge for the SFN community – come up with some bed shitting collapses to rival that of Wake Forest, who spent most of the year in the Top Ten, but got spanked in the first round of both the ACCT and NCAAT. The best I could come up with NC State in 1989 losing to a 1-13 Maryland team in the ACCT quarters. But that team rebounded to make the Sweet Sixteen before getting screwed on a bogus travelling call against Georgetown. So, I think Wake still wins.

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133 Responses to NCAAT Saturday Round of 32 Open Thread (Geaux Tigers!)

  1. Wulfpack 03/22/2009 at 11:44 AM #

    Sidney Lowe was about 8th on the list. And had he not had a connection to NC State, he would not have even been considered for the job, just as he has not been considered for ANY NCAA job NC State aside, and when this bloody experiment has run it’s course, he will not find ANY other NCAA job. Why, you ask? I don’t know, it’s such a mystery.

  2. choppack1 03/22/2009 at 11:45 AM #

    Sidney Lowe was an awful gamble. Look at your base requirements – he met only one – NBA experience. In every other area, he wasn’t just a little lacking – he had NO EXPERIENCE.

    A decision maker needs to make decisions supported by facts and probability. Even if you make a logical choice – it may not work out. Fowler through that all out the window. To use a poker term, he went all on 3 and 8 offsuited against professional poke players. You may get called on that, and ou may still win if you play that hand – but it doesn’t mean you made a good decision. Conversely, if you all in on pocket rockets, you may lose, it doesn’t mean you made a bad decision.

    On another note: If you want to know why Coach K won more national championships than Dean Smith, and why Leonard Hamilton probaby won’t win any, compare the D Duke played against Texas’ Abrams to the D that FSU played against Bohannon.

    As I mentioned in another post, even after he had burned them for several key threes, Bohannon’s defensive counterpart was looking to help. OTOH, Duke put Scheyer on Abrams and he faced guarded him the entire game – when he got free on screens, the person who switched onto him did the same. Coaching isn’t rocket science – sometimes it’s simplicity. I personally don’t think Coach K is the best X and O coach ever. From an X and O standpoint, he couldn’t hold Dean’s jock and he certainly didn’t have V’s situational instincts- but his guys know exactly what’s expected of them and they play balls out every time they hit the floor.

    I enjoyed the Duke-Tejas game. The foul shots were pretty even. I wonder if any of the local reporters had the courage to ask if that had ever to happened to Barnes when he was at Clemson.

  3. buttPACKer 03/22/2009 at 11:56 AM #

    that was some tirade, wolf. . . I concede defeat. . . today.

  4. redfred2 03/22/2009 at 12:10 PM #

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  5. Ed89 03/22/2009 at 12:28 PM #

    Good post, Greywolf. I agree.

  6. Greywolf 03/22/2009 at 2:13 PM #

    choppack1
    March 22nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
    “Sidney Lowe was an awful gamble. Look at your base requirements – he met only one – NBA experience. In every other area, he wasn’t just a little lacking – he had NO EXPERIENCE.”
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    I don’t know what you or anybody consider the base requirements to be. I don’t claim to know anything about hiring talent at the level of HC for a public university. I will say that if Sid had met the base requirements, his hiring wouldn’t have been a gamble. I suspect the the same logic that went into hiring Amato went into hiring Lowe. The two hires are on the surface very similar. Given LF wasn’t here for the hiring of Amato, it’s predictable that the criteria for Lowe came from somewhere above the AD.
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    Frankly speaking for the wants and requirements of this fan base, championships, almost any coach within our reach — experience, salary, love of the University, commitment to NCSU — unless we can resurrect Jimmy Valvano, any coach is a gamble.
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  7. redfred2 03/22/2009 at 4:24 PM #

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  8. Greywolf 03/22/2009 at 7:20 PM #

    buttPACKer
    March 22nd, 2009 at 11:56 am
    “that was some tirade, wolf. . . I concede defeat. . . today.”
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    Bp,
    I didn’t intend a tirade, my intent was civil discussion of an issue that has several valid points of view. It takes time, thought and effort to present a generally unpopular opinion. I am attempting to stay outside of this polorized argument, offer some unconsidered but possible constraints on the AD. I am not trying to present the AD as right or wrong nor am I trying to argue that Sid is an outstanding coach or a lousy coach. My personal point of view is that Sid or any coach deserves the support of his boss and fan base AS LONG AS HE IS the coach of the Pack.

    I didn’t see the actual NYT article but if Boelien’s comments about Sid were as reported (they were in quotation marks) then I assert Boelein is out of order. It’s one thing for us to argue in house about Sid’s qualifications, it’s an entirely different matter for some outside asshole to do it.

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