Sometimes it helps to see things in black and white, spreadsheet style. From Forbes.com, here’s a listing of ACC school athletic department budgets and the salaries of each Athletic Director:
================= ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE ================= --------------------------------------------------------------- Athletic Yrs at No. of Dept. Guaranteed School Director School Teams Budget Base --------------------------------------------------------------- Georgia Tech Dan Radakovich 3 17 $56.0M $560,000 Clemson Terry Don Phillips 6 19 $53.2M $418,000 Maryland Deborah Yow 15 27 $61.0M $382,575 Florida State Randy Spetman 1 17 $51.0M $350,000 Virginia Tech Jim Weaver 12 21 $53.5M $345,211 Virginia Craig Littlepage 8 25 $56.2M $320,000 N. Carolina Dick Baddour 12 28 $61.4M $295,000 NC State Lee Fowler 9 23 $39.0M $280,000 --------------------------------------------------------------- ACC Average 8 22 $53.9M $368,848 --------------------------------------------------------------- (apparently private schools Miami, Duke and BC do not report their numbers)
Excluding NC State, each ACC team budgets about $56.04 Million on the average. NC State, at $39 Million, runs its athletics at a rate of roughly 70% of the rest of the conference. An easy counter-argument would be that NC State fields fewer teams, but as you can see, there are four schools (GT, Clemson, FSU, VT) that have higher athletic budgets with fewer teams than NC State.
We posted these numbers before, but let’s once again look at the Director’s Cup Standings:
ACC:
4. UNC 5. Wake Forest 9. Maryland 11. UVA 15. FSU 18. Duke 27. BC 63. VT 68. Clemson 91. NC State 93. GT (has a new AD) 94. Miami (has a new AD)
Interesting, and it seems that there is a correllation at least in our case: we’re getting what we pay for. While it is true that NC State raises far fewer dollars than UNC, it outraises Duke:
With 28 varsity sports, [UNC] is one of the country’s largest athletic programs. It raised $51 million in pledges or donations for athletics last year, alone.Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
Here’s an older table that shows a good picture of ACC booster clubs’ fundraising:
Atlantic Coast Conference |
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Athletics donations in 2006 |
Overall rank in athletics donations |
Amount raised in capital campaigns for athletics in past 5 years |
Goal of current capital campaign for athletics |
Full-time athletics fund raisers |
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UNC |
$51,000,000 |
1 |
$230,000,000 |
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20 |
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UVA |
$45,240,112 |
2 |
$188,100,000 |
-- |
19 |
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FSU |
$29,100,000 |
11 |
$155,300,000 |
$110,000,000 |
6 |
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NCSU |
$27,254,723 |
14 |
$125,625,000 |
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16 |
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Duke |
$25,495,000 |
17 |
$150,000,000 |
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15 |
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GT |
$25,000,000 |
18 |
-- |
$125,000,000 |
8 |
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VT |
$23,680,688 |
19 |
$22,300,000 |
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6 |
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Clemson |
$23,160,000 |
22 |
$27,000,000 |
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6 |
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Miami |
$19,200,000 |
29 |
$63,000,000 |
$70,000,000 |
9 |
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BC |
$19,000,000 |
31 |
$64,000,000 |
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8 |
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Wake Forest |
$12,692,782 |
46 |
$63,000,000 |
$87,000,000 |
9 |
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Maryland |
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the numbers seem to speak for themselves.
UPDATE 1: Daily Update adds some more numbers
Here are some more numbers.
- -NC State supporters ranked 9th among BCS programs in annual donations in 2006.
- -NC State supporters ranked 14th among BCS programs in capital donations the five years prior to 2006.
- -NC State fans have sold out Carter Finley for 8 consecutive seasons despite the program hitting an almost half century low point in 2006 with a 3-9 record. You have to go all the way back to 1959 (1-9, .100) to find an NC State football team with a worse overall winning percentage.
- -Actual attendance (not visual estimates like in Chapel Hill) has essentially been at 100% capacity since the 2000 football season. Here are the numbers for 2008.
- -NC State fans have ranked #7, #17, #20, #19, #16, #13, #17, #18, #16 in basketball attendance since the 2000 season. In 2008, NC State fans averaged 15,043 which was the 2nd highest total in the history of the program despite the team not making the post-season.
- How happy would NC State fans be if the basketball program had half that number of top 20 finishes?
- -NC State fans made the Wolfpack Club one of five booster organizations in the country to exceed 20,000 members this year.
- -In the 2007/2008 athletic year, NC State fans set school records in football tickets sold (37,500), revenue from football tickets sold ($10.75 million), and revenue from basketball tickets sold ($5.6 million).
- -Additionally, NC State fans donated the second highest total in our history ($25.4 million). This was a combination of an all-time high in annual donations ($10.0 million), the 2nd highest total in capital giving ($13.7 million), and what appears to be an all-time high in endowment giving ($1.8 million).\
UPDATE 2: NC State Basketball Ranked 13th Most Valuable Program
Undoubtedly, the sweetheart deal NC State has with the RBC Center has a lot to do with this ranking, but one can see the disparity between the results on the court (RPI ranking in the 90s) versus the rankings on the ledger sheet for NC State hoops:
NC State’s basketball program, ranked 13th, is worth $13.6 million. With expenses of only $3.1 million, the lowest of any team on our list, the NC State Wolfpack earned a profit of $7.9 million last season. In his first year with the Wolfpack, former NBA head coach Sidney Lowe led his alma mater to victories over Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest University, marking the first time in four years that NC State beat all three in-state opponents during the same season.