WRAL’s Ken Medlin: Starters Need To Thaw A Frigid Offense

WRAL’s sports site has a couple of articles of interest:

Ken Medlin: Starters Need To Thaw A Frigid Offense

The Pack actually played better with their starters on the bench.

Brandon Costner, Ben McCauley, Trevor Ferguson and Farnold Degand – all four of them starters — combined to score a grand total of five points in the second half.

Five.

Barry Jacobs: Lowe, Pack Looking for Right Fit

Lowe’s search for viable options was evident against FSU as both coaches sifted through their benches like shoppers rifling racks of ready-to-wear clothing to find something that would fit. Lowe employed 10 different players for at least 11 minutes each. Hamilton used nine.

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While the newcomers prospered, more familiar options were discarded. Javi Gonzalez, last year’s starter at point, played three minutes and looked so out of sync he seemed almost relieved when he was yanked from the game. Degand, touted as the playmaker of the future when he was recovering from injury, continued to be ineffective.

Only Mays appears capable of attacking a defense off the dribble or creating opportunities for others. “Julius, he’s solid,” Lowe said. “He’s a point guard, he knows how to play the position. He’s a smart player.”

Nearly every column I have seen covering this game seems to say the same thing: that NC State’s starters didn’t do their jobs and that the young players off of the bench did.

Perhaps it is time to reverse the roles and force the upperclassmen to earn their time on the court.

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49 Responses to WRAL’s Ken Medlin: Starters Need To Thaw A Frigid Offense

  1. TheCOWDOG 01/15/2009 at 7:50 PM #

    Alpha, no doubt I hit you square up, but it wasn’t personal. Do you or the rest of us see the trend in the media to echo what we say in here or not?

    And starting the threads … I believe we have talked about it before. ( Missed our chance last week ) I swear ‘Bo you have no idea how much I despise the what’s new today writers that feed off from the energy that most of us knew yesterday.

  2. JeremyH 01/15/2009 at 8:04 PM #

    I like that lineup turnoffthetv.

  3. wufpup76 01/15/2009 at 8:23 PM #

    I wouldn’t mind seeing tv’s lineup either (or at least the minutes distributed) …

    We can agree to disagree, but I appreciate the guys linking up stories … It keeps the threads fresh and occasionally offers new/different perspectives … I’m sure some media folks may peruse the board, but that’s just the way it is w/ the intertubes and 24/7 coverage

    At least they’re trying to keep their collective fingers on the pulse of the fans if in fact they do come here … *If* they ever start conveying how quite many of us feel about the state of our athletics department then maybe some pressure can build … maybe some winds of change may actually blow this way for a change … who knows …

  4. turnoffthetv 01/15/2009 at 8:32 PM #

    “I like that lineup turnoffthetv.”

    thanx just tryin to have some fun in all the misery but at the the same time tryin to build a lineup based upon what i see as i cuss the tv screen game after game.

    The real no-brainer IMHO at this juncture amidst an 11 game acc losing streak is Mays is the captain of the ship and should be awarded as much playing time as he can stand physically without needing a blow or getting into foul trouble or injury.

  5. TheCOWDOG 01/15/2009 at 8:33 PM #

    Good pull Wulfpup. You have to understand my lack of trust in reporters. Not all, but yet…..

  6. BAC79 01/15/2009 at 8:38 PM #

    Wolfpup, our fans have a pulse but I’m afraid some of our players don’t. Sometimes they look like rejects from a George Romero flick, Dead on the hardwood or something like that.

  7. wufpup76 01/15/2009 at 8:41 PM #

    Totally hear you both, cowdog and BAC

    Sad state of affairs 🙁 (no pun intended, I suppose)

  8. Clarksa 01/15/2009 at 8:59 PM #

    “I, for one, am not scapegoating them. There are two constants since Lowe has gotten here. Him and the seniors. If we take one of the factors out we will know for sure about the other.”

    Excellent point…

  9. JeremyH 01/15/2009 at 9:21 PM #

    with all the gloom and doom going on here the last couple days, you’d think it was Bloody Sunday. I think many comments are more toned down after a couple days. There’s no point in talking about Lowe right now. What is worthwhile to talk about is the rapid emergence of Julius Mays as our starting point guard (Justin Gainey-esque. And CJ Williams as a real shooting guard (a nice mix of Courtney’s athleticism and Fergie’s touch), with Johnny Thomas blocking (bless him after going through his degenerative knee injury) and making shots. And the fact that these young guys were running the break and doing it well…I feel very good about these guys. Although the seniors and redshirt junior didn’t play that well, regardless of how inconsistent they are, we know they are capable of playing well, and senior leadership is still needed, if they choose to provide it. Yes Sidney, sit ’em, and let them decide by their effort how much we work them back into the rotation. It just might work, look at Donovan McNabb after his benching.

  10. turfpack 01/15/2009 at 9:35 PM #

    After hearing Bomanni on 620 the bull and DG on 850 the buzz today
    NCState should just forget basketball with UNX&DOOK next door with or without Sid.

  11. wufpup76 01/15/2009 at 9:44 PM #

    All I know is that Bill Raftery is making verbal love to Tyler, oh sweet Tyler on espn right now … Again

    Remember, Raftery is the guy who popped one over how well sweet Tyler listens

  12. Alpha Wolf 01/15/2009 at 9:51 PM #

    NCState should just forget basketball with UNX&DOOK next door with or without Sid.

    Maybe we should leave the ACC and join another conference. The Big East would be very happy to have us.

  13. wolfpackbball 01/15/2009 at 10:12 PM #

    Nothing new. I’m guessing Sid is going to phase in the new crew as the season goes along. If Mays can just be an average point guard it’s an improvement.
    BTW, I really miss Barry Jacobs’ ACC Handbook that was a magazine rack fixture up through the mid 90s.

  14. wufpup76 01/15/2009 at 10:16 PM #

    Raftery:

    “Boy, Hansbrough begs great too! I mean, there’s polite begging and there’s legitimate begging. He does both so great!”

    ^Yeah, he said that.

  15. newt 01/15/2009 at 10:17 PM #

    McCauley and Costner are taking a lot of hits, but I thought Fells was the guy who made some really bad decisions at game’s end. He looked like he was playing in somebody’s driveway.

  16. JeremyH 01/15/2009 at 10:22 PM #

    “He looked like he was playing in somebody’s driveway.”

    ^^^ I had me a chuckle : }

    As someone on here said, he is content with just shooting threes, sometimes at the worst times, to make matters worse (or apparent?) he is missing them unlike last year.

  17. Gene 01/16/2009 at 2:13 AM #

    “Maybe we should leave the ACC and join another conference. The Big East would be very happy to have us.”

    With the “quality” of play our basketball team brings, I think rejoining the Southern Conference to be more appropriate.

  18. kyjelly 01/16/2009 at 7:42 AM #

    Bottom line here when push comes to shove,Ben,Brandon and Courtney are way better basketball players than Sid is a coach. Very sad ,but true.

  19. Wulfpack 01/16/2009 at 8:25 AM #

    In regards to the media, I think we’re being a hell of a lot harder on the Pack than anyone else. The reason — because we care. Nobody else cares, that’ what we’ve become…

  20. 4in12 01/16/2009 at 2:13 PM #

    “Bottom line here when push comes to shove,Ben,Brandon and Courtney are way better basketball players than Sid is a coach.”

    Whether it’s true or not I think the root problem is that *they* believe it.

  21. redfred2 01/16/2009 at 4:49 PM #

    “Anybody else notice this trend?”

    COWdog,

    When I read those articles I couldn’t believe it either. Seemed like I was reading pretty much a Cliff’s Notes version of EXACTLY what we had ALREADY SAID here on SFN.

    ???

    Anyway, it’s good to see that a few “experts” see it the same way we do this time around.

  22. redfred2 01/16/2009 at 5:00 PM #

    “Bottom line here when push comes to shove,Ben,Brandon and Courtney are way better basketball players than Sid is a coach. Very sad ,but true.”

    I’m copying this from another thread, just for KYjelly.

    OK KY,

    How about doing a little exercise for me? Try going through the different starting line ups in the ACC, comparing theirs to ours by each team, and tell me how many of our starters you would keep if you could trade one for one. Again, I’m talking about taking our starting five and putting them up against Virginia’s, and then tell how many of UVA’s players you would take to replace one of ours. Then go to Duke, take our five, and see how many of our players you would keep over theirs. And so on, through every team in the ACC.

    Out of those eleven chances, to trade one of theirs for one of ours, how many times do you think that you would end up with more of NC State’s players on your new starting roster, than those of the other teams?

  23. redfred2 01/16/2009 at 5:18 PM #

    Oh yeah, and what exactly makes you think that “when push comes to shove,Ben,Brandon and Courtney are way better basketball players than Sid is a coach.”

    I’m just asking, because from where I sit the only evidence you could possibly point to was in SIDNEY LOWE’S first year as THE HEAD COACH. That is THE ONLY evidence that you have to even say anything like that because there sure as hell wasn’t any evidence that you could point to in regards to those three players BEFORE SIDNEY LOWE ARRIVED. What you are talking about WAS ACCOMPLISHED WHILE SIDNEY LOWE WAS OVER IN COACH’S BOX.

  24. redfred2 01/16/2009 at 6:48 PM #

    Rick is going to be on my case again, oh well, it’s ANOTHER 4 IN A ROW, UNINTERUPTED, from redfred.

    “McCauley and Costner are taking a lot of hits, but I thought Fells was the guy who made some really bad decisions at game’s end. He looked like he was playing in somebody’s driveway.”

    Newt, that’s nothing new, he did exactly that in years past as well. Difference is that he just happened to hit some shots VERY LATE in those games. You know that Fells has always been perfectly willing and able to, as well as comfortable enough I guess, to step up and take those shots when the game is already over. That was back when he ran up his stats and when people would look at it without thinking, then they’d jump up and proclaim him as their very own “Player of the Game”.

    He’s just missing those meaningless shots now, that’s all.

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