Wolfpack can’t overcome atrocious early effort (Updated at 5pm)

NC State’s basketball team decided to show up for the second half of today’s game at Boston College but by then the damage was already done. The embarrassing first half performance that lacked effort, focus and intensity dug the Wolfpack too deep a hole.

Perhaps the rest of the team simply followed the example of one of the Wolfpack’s seniors, Courtney Fells. If anyone wants a clinic in how to loaf through a game while exerting almost no effort then use your DVR to watch Courtney Fells today. Wow.

I don’t know who Fells thinks he is fooling – and maybe he is fooling this coaching staff – but he sure as hell is not fooling many of us who contribute to the Wolfpack Club for his scholarship. He entered the season with a physique that has obviously deteriorated over the last couple of years, and his effort has been consistent with what appears to be a lack of dedication off the floor. For the year, Fells is quickly approaching the record Brandon Costner set last season for number of easy passes dropped coupled with the number of lazy passes committed.

Today, I think Fells managed to play the entire game without boxing out a single Bost College Eagle while his perimeter defensive effort was as lackluster as his 2nd half effort at Duke earlier in the week. His shot selection was equally suspect, once appropriately drawing criticism from color commentator Jason Capel. He had one nice defensive play on a blocked shot; the problem is that he had to make that play to save face for playing bad defense that allowed his man to cut through the lane and easily catch an entry pass a couple of feet from the basket.

If you have limited time, just watch the first six and a half minutes of the game where Fells committed THREE unforced turnovers – one by having a simple pass slide through his hands and two boneheaded passes to Boston College defenders. Simultanwously, the player Fells was supposedly guarding managed to score almost half BC’s points in that time period. (Not that any other NC State player seemed to play defense in the first half). The official boxscore only shows Fells with two turnovers for the entire game. LOL! Riiiiiigh.

We’ve been increasingly frustrated with Fells’ anemic effort and resulting poor performances this year and just don’t think it is fair to ignore it any more. Many of the ‘little things’ like not coming to help the ball during pressure, failing to find the proper spacing without the ball on offense and not communicating with teammates on defense are things that don’t show up in the boxscore; although the boxscore showing 4 of 10 shooting; 0 of 4 from the three point line; and 0 of 2 from the free throw line certainly isn’t kind to Fells, either.

I expect someone will reference Fells’ lingering injury from the Davidson game. Maybe that has some merit. On the other hand, his inury has nothing to do with his lack of effort to find people to block out and play with just a tiny bit of consistent effort. Additionally seems just fine whenever there is a fast break for free points or an opportunity to get off a shot.

If there was any good news to come out of today’s game it would be the following:
(1) “The young guys” of Tracy Smith and Johnny Thomas again played very well and made things happen out there.
(2) Farnold Degand seems to be regaining some form and is gradually playing better. He is obviously the best option to start at point guard right now.
(3) Javi Gonzalez did not play.
(4) The official box score attributed State with only ten turnovers for the entire game.
(5) Johnny Thomas, Tracy Smith and Julius Mays combined for 8 of 11 shooting.

There was a lot of conversation in the open game entry. I am going to elevate one of the comments:

Well…All I can say is I’m proud of the effort in the 2nd half. We ran out of gas around the 6 minute mark, and everyone knew that when Trapani hit the three it was game.

If we put that same effort or even half of that effort in the first half, we win this game by 10. There was no effort whatsoever in the first half. I watched the game, but for those of you who didn’t it is apparent by the number of offensive rebounds that Boston College had. I can guarantee that 70% of the offensive boards came in the first half. Don’t get me wrong there were two, sometimes even three guys going for the board, but it’s a damn shame that they were all Boston College players.

Sid finally played the rotation we’ve been begging for. Costner, McCauley, Smith and the two guards. We made a 16-0 run with this lineup. Maybe Lowe will notice how good Smith and McCauley are together in the game, and keep Brandon at SF and put a rotation of Fells, Williams, Mays, and Degand in as guards. Maybe play Fergs for 5 mins a game, and see if he can provide. Also I wouldn’t mind seeing Thomas play some SF/SG some. He impressed me. In his few minutes he had some boards, hit a shot, and hustles like no one else on the court.

For all of you insulting Costner…drop it. Seriously. He’s changed his game completely. He got the ball completely stolen from him at the top of the key and instead of jogging down, he hustled down the court and made a good block, but unfortunately fouled the guy, but he HUSTLED . Another instance, A BC player got a rebound over Costner and ran it out, and Costner didn’t give up, chased him down and stole the ball from him. He’s hustling. That’s all you can ask for. His shot isn’t dropping right now, and he’s trying not to force it. Good for him. So seriously get off his back. All of you talk about other fans jumping on and off bandwagons, some of you are just as bad about jumping onto and off our players.

Degand played well, and had some good steals. The game is coming back to him. He can see things develop, he’s beginning to read people. Made some really nice passes, but also made a few bad ones. I honestly think he’ll turn out to be a good PG and I believe he’d be more than capable if not for the injury. I think Mays will be a better guard by the time his career is over, and is a better scorer, but he still makes a couple of freshman mistakes. He picks up his dribble a little too easily, and doesn’t look for his shot enough, but he’s getting there.

Ben also played well, but had a couple of cheap fouls called on him. You expect that playing on the road in the ACC, but not this bad. I may be the only one complaining about the refs, but I thought a lot of the loose balls that went out of bounds BC got. Which is funny considering how many people they had crashing the boards?? Anyways, Ben looked like a new man today, and wanted this win bad. It’s a shame he had to sit in the 2nd half.

So rotation rest of the year:

PG – Degand/Mays
SG – Fells/Williams/Thomas/Fergs (more when he’s back)
SF – Costner/Williams/Thomas
PF – Smith/Horner/Costner
C – McCauley/Smith/Costner

I would love to not see Dennis Horner in another minute of a red and white N.C. State jersey, but I think it’s inevitable. I also believe Gonzalez transfers. His minutes are done, which is unfortunate for him, but fortunate for N.C. State.

Good 2nd half effort Pack. Let’s go steal one from Miami and focus for 40 minutes. Let’s GO PACK

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94 Responses to Wolfpack can’t overcome atrocious early effort (Updated at 5pm)

  1. Texpack 01/25/2009 at 11:10 AM #

    I would just like to see us play one game from start to finish without Fells playing a minute. I think we would be a better team without him. I also think it is pointless to coach the rest of the season with the idea that this season can be salvaged with an NIT bid or something of the sort. We need to work on getting experience for Williams, Thomas, Mays, and Smith. They have to be a lot better over the next two years if this program is to improve.

  2. Alpha Wolf 01/25/2009 at 11:15 AM #

    ““And can anyone remember the last player that improved his game while at State?”

    Yes. Tracy Smith.

  3. TheCOWDOG 01/25/2009 at 11:15 AM #

    Yes, exactly Wolfonthehill.

    When we sit down to watch this team it’s akin to pulling out the Sunday paper, going to the comics and finding Peanuts. Yep, 1st panel sure looks familiar. With false hope we follow the story line to the last inevitable panel…”Oh no, not again!” Knew it was comin’.

    Observing this team would have inspired Hans Christian Anderson. Only in our case, there are simply not enough fingers.

  4. Wolf Dog 01/25/2009 at 11:19 AM #

    Excellent post. Even though we lost I felt better about our team and the steps toward improvement we are making. We need to learn how to finish. I really like watching JT play. Clearly Sid fired the boys up at the half, sign of a good coach. We seem to be on a Olvier Purnel type rebuilding job like took place at Clemson. He walked in behind little HS junior’s mess down there in Tiger town. And yea time for people to lay off Costner. He’s playign very well and lots of people are taking notice. He keeps going like this and he will start shooting up the draft boards soon. He has a great inside – outside game that NBA coaches love. I am with the author. I can in no way figure Fells and I am sure the coaches are just as baffled. Be sad to bench him given that he is a senior. Losing him will not hurt our team come next year.

  5. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 11:35 AM #

    I’m not happy about it, but I have taken alot of grief around here for not ever being fan of Courtney Fells. It’s just a sad and pitiful waste of God-given athletic ability. I would say that having a player with so much athleticism, and seeing that ability during practice sessions, is also something that can confuse a coach and blur his thinking to some degree. I know I’m always waiting on Fells to step up, make a play, any play, and do the things that he is surely capable of, and I’d say the same is true for the coaching staff. But, he just doesn’t seem have “it” in him.

  6. 66pack 01/25/2009 at 11:41 AM #

    T Smith is by far the best player on this team.If SID does not know this he should never coach another game.

  7. blackdom 01/25/2009 at 11:47 AM #

    WE were lucky to win the GT game if that kid does not foul Degand on the layup and we don’t get the 3 pt play, we lose the game……….It will be a hell of a rematch.
    Surely when we go down to GT we may even get on national tv again.The Game of The “WEAK”. PS both GT and UVA have a much better freshmen and soph class than we do.In fact look around the league everyone’s underclassmen are stronger than us.

  8. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 11:50 AM #

    The situation with Fells reminds me alot of the days of Cameron Bennerman. Bennerman didn’t get enough PT until VERY late, but he ‘seemed’ to have a different mindset and he seemed as if he was at least willing to use his great athleticism to challenge the opposition whenever he was granted the chance. Unlike Fells though, Cameron Bennerman’s improving abilities were never written into the script or relied upon as heavily as Sidney Lowe has allowed Courtney Fells’ disappearing abilities to be.

  9. W0LFPack 01/25/2009 at 12:02 PM #

    You don’t think there’s a corner turned?? Yeah, Davidson isn’t quite as good as they were last year, but they are still a top 25 team, and will be a 5 seed in the tournament. We aren’t as good as we were last year, yet our games are closer, we don’t give up, and we don’t lose to teams we should not lose to. Albeit, I think we should beat BC at home, and I think we will. I honestly don’t see how you DON’T think we’ve turned a corner? We lost a senior leader, and a phenomenal freshman who deserved Freshman of the Year in the ACC. We pick up an above average athlete who will be better than Gavin Grant at the end of his career, but isn’t yet. And we picked up a PG, who given time, will become a solid contributor.

    Seriously, what are you watching?? I’m not excited about any loss either. But we lost on a last second three to Marquette, who by the way is playing pretty damn well in the ACTUAL toughest conference in college basketball. We stuck it out with Duke for 35 minutes. I mean this team can play, it’s just a matter of when, and how much. Yesterday I agree, we didn’t play well at all, and when we did, it was for a short stretch. But Sidney OBVIOUSLY made some crucial adjustments at halftime. How can you not see that?

  10. Wulfpack 01/25/2009 at 12:03 PM #

    “Clearly Sid fired the boys up at the half, sign of a good coach.”

    And what about the first 20 minutes, you know, when we did just about everything wrong?

    “We seem to be on a Olvier Purnel type rebuilding job like took place at Clemson.”

    That’s an insult to Purnell and Clemson:

    Year 1 – 3 conference wins (Sidney had 5)
    Year 2 – 5 conference wins (Sidney had 4)
    Year 3 – 7 conference wins (Sidney currently has 1 — do you honestly think 7 is in the cards???)

  11. wolfonthehill 01/25/2009 at 12:04 PM #

    ^ So we aren’t as good as we were last year… but we’ve turned a corner.

    Yeah – I get that.

  12. Wulfpack 01/25/2009 at 12:04 PM #

    “Yeah, Davidson isn’t quite as good as they were last year, but they are still a top 25 team.”

    Wrong.

  13. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 12:42 PM #

    “Tracy Smith is not better than Brandon Costner. Like it or not, Costner is easily NCSU’s most talented player. If you want to say that Costner does not play hard or is not motivated, then that is fine, but Costner has much more talent than Smith.”

    Um, sometimes you leave the Jaguar with the heated seats, the active suspension, and all of the fancy gizmos, sitting over at the repair garage, and just take the old hard working pickup truck instead. That is, if you really want to get the job done.

  14. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 1:16 PM #

    Folks, this is NC STATE, the place where a former coach spent years unsuccessfully implementing a style of play that I guess, was intended to teach the Atlantic Coast Conference that it doesn’t even know what the game of basketball is intended to be.

    He stubbornly tried and couldn’t do it, he moved on to a new environment, and he has abandoned all of that now.

    The comparisons are senseless, we are not Clemson, Purnell inherited something totally different. As a matter of fact we are trying to recruit against, and competing in a league full teams where we haven’t been comparable to anyone. We’re nameless and faceless now, and as bland as a glass of water. We especially haven’t been comparable to Clemson, or ANY of the other ACC programs, for Y-E-A-R-S now!!!

  15. Bartonpackfan09 01/25/2009 at 1:55 PM #

    Hey guys, I don’t have time to look at all the comments here so I don’t know if this has been said or not. The bad rebounding is inexcusable, however this is the first game that we really struggled in that department, but we REALLY REALLY struggled and while that can be attributed to a lack of hustle not much else can. Even with all the offensive rebounds we still probably win if there weren’t about 10 possessions in a row where we just couldn’t knock down a shot. They were all good shots, just none would fall. Unfortunatly I think there are many here that don’t really understand basketball. To them, when things are going well, it’s because of heart and hustle, and if we’re missing shots and losing it’s because of lack of heart and hustle. I just wish more people would comment about actual measurable things instead of this heart and hustle crap that they don’t even seem to understand.

  16. BassPacker 01/25/2009 at 2:03 PM #

    Theres a good read in todays Fayetteville Observer on John Wall and controversy surrounding his recruitment from Baylor. His AAU coach was hired as director of player development. The article as some good comments from Lowe and Coach K, with most agreeing its a done deal Wall is going to Baylor.

    http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=316749

  17. wolfonthehill 01/25/2009 at 2:31 PM #

    ^ I’d merely suggest that you look at the comments before posting that… I won’t take the time to respond, as responses to what you’re saying are already posted numerous times up above.

    PS – I’d wager that scanning the comments would take less time than it took you to write what you did… it would be time well-spent.

  18. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 2:31 PM #

    I remember when there was a player, not exactly a PG per se, but a very competent BB player none the less, playing at the PG spot, and someone who is among my all-time favorites to wear a Wolfpack uniform. A player I’d put up there with the likes of a Nate McMillan, or a Thurl Bailey, to name a few. You know, not a David Thompson type, there aren’t any of those anyway, but those types of players/kids that can be depended upon night in and night out, to deliver quality play with steadfast consistency (WHEN HEALTHY).

    THAT!!! is what we as fans, the entire NC State BB program, and this group of COACHES are dealing with, and living WITHOUT right now. While it is up to this current staff to seek out, and win those types of players over to our side, it is VERY UNREASONABLE and much too early to EXPECT that these coaches could have immediately had the ability to instantly bring those players right off the bat, and in their first few years. Thus, the lag time, that we are very much wallowing in right now.

    But, and even considering all of the previous mishandling of NC State’s BB program, the recruiting is ALREADY going fairly well. So, what is it that Sidney Lowe is preaching out on the hotly contested recruiting trails, and how in the world could anyone explain his early success in even getting kids to listen what he has to say in the first place?

    Whatever it is, I can tell you this, his sentences aren’t ending with “five in a row”.

  19. haze 01/25/2009 at 2:36 PM #

    ^ I tend to agree on the qualitative nature of “hustle” comments. In fact, I think that when you are short on quickness, you tend to LOOK like you’re not hustling against the better teams.

    For instance, I don’t think that Horner fails to hustle, I just think he’s slow. Same can be said of Costner when he’s playing against a true WF, despite the fact that Brandon is DEFINITELY the best player on this team.

    FWIW, this thesis blatantly fails to describe Fells, so I’m thinking he needs to sit the hell down.

  20. BJD95 01/25/2009 at 2:59 PM #

    This is Sidney Lowe’s third team. The best players that he brought into the program (on our roster now) are Tracy Smith and Farnold Degand. They will be the only returning players on next year’s team that show any hint of being acceptable ACC starters.

    Without Wall, Cousins, or both – next year’s Wolfpack will suck again. And even then, the freshmen had better be ready to play on Day One. That is the direct result of recruiting mistakes and poor scholarship spacing by Sidney Lowe and staff.

    This mess can only be fixed (if at all) by recruiting. Not good, but great recruiting. For at least 3 classes in a row.

    Without Wall or Cousins, next year’s class is good, but not great. Not good enough. It’s too late to bring in that level of class. Would have been nice to bring in that kind of class this year, rather than just 2 guys who will backup-caliber ACC players as upperclassmen.

  21. BSIE80 01/25/2009 at 3:25 PM #

    I am very frustrated as most.
    We pretty much knew this season would be this way.
    We were hoping for 8-8 ACC record and slipping into the NCAA. But most of us expected something less, giving the talent level or in some cases questionable coaching ability.
    We are 1-4, and just like our football program surprised us with, we have time to turn things around.

  22. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 3:30 PM #

    Haze, that’s a good point, and it may be true. But it still doesn’t counter the argument that there ARE times when even a limited amount of “quickness” does show itself, but mainly on just one end of the BB court, and alot more times than it ever shows itself on the other end.

    What I don’t like to see is s-l-o-w and lethargic reaction on the defensive end, followed immediately after by a aggressive burst to try to make something happen on the offensive end.

    Just play H-A-R-D ALL OVER THE COURT in five or six minute spurts, then put your hand up and ask to come out of the game. Let the coaches do their jobs give them the clear responsibility of figuring out the substitutions at that point.

    While admitting that it shouldn’t really take that, but if it did happen that way, I believe we would be seeing some more competitive BB throughout most of the games anyway, and just maybe this fuzzy picture would start to clear up on it’s own.

    ^BJD, So, you were expecting a Sidney Lowe, who is new to the ranks of collegiate basketball, and who has taken over at what has become a BB program that was definitely boring and unrecognizable, to just JUMP UP!!! out of nowhere, knocking all of the established coaches out of the way? Those same coaches who come from established and EXCITING BB programs, and those coaches who had the opportunity and who had been communicating and working on those kids for years BEFORE Lowe arrived at none other than NC State, for Sidney Lowe to IMMEDIATELY walk into that, and just easily start picking and choosing, and taking those recruits away from every other coach out there???

    Are you really serious about that?

    That would be about like walking into a Yugo automotive plant and expecting them to immediately start producing Ferarri’s. And that’s not even the hard part, selling them to the people (recruits) on the outside afterwards would be.

  23. Wulfpack 01/25/2009 at 3:54 PM #

    “We aren’t as good as we were last year, yet our games are closer, we don’t give up, and we don’t lose to teams we should not lose to.”

    Well as long as we don’t give up, all is well in Raleigh. I mean hell, we only lost to Duke by 17 points! And we put forth a great 20 minutes of basketball against BC! Woo hoo!

    That’s the new standard around here. And for the record, I don’t think we should be losing to the likes of Davidson, Florida State, and BC, but maybe my expectations are just a little too high. I mean those are some real powerhouses around the college basketball world. There is just no way we should expect N.C. State University to beat the likes of those teams.

    With that mindset, we’re doomed. I don’t think Sid believes that mess even for a minute, and that’s why I will continue to support him. But the second I get the sense that he has adopted that mindset from wherever it came, see ya later. That ain’t going to get it done.

  24. redfred2 01/25/2009 at 4:24 PM #

    “I don’t think Sid believes that mess even for a minute, and that’s why I will continue to support him.”

    Neither do I Wulf. It’s also the same reason that most people continued their support of another NC State Head Coach this season, and while he was missing just O-N-E element, and a single player. And that was in a line up that unlike BB with only five players at any given time, gives the cushion of at the very least four times the number players to fall back on one another.

  25. BJD95 01/25/2009 at 5:25 PM #

    RF – You are creating a strawman argument. I gave Lowe a complete pass for last season because he was “learning.” There’s no excuse for being this awful in Year Three.

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