Wolfpack can’t overcome atrocious early effort (Updated at 5pm)

NC State’s basketball team decided to show up for the second half of today’s game at Boston College but by then the damage was already done. The embarrassing first half performance that lacked effort, focus and intensity dug the Wolfpack too deep a hole.

Perhaps the rest of the team simply followed the example of one of the Wolfpack’s seniors, Courtney Fells. If anyone wants a clinic in how to loaf through a game while exerting almost no effort then use your DVR to watch Courtney Fells today. Wow.

I don’t know who Fells thinks he is fooling – and maybe he is fooling this coaching staff – but he sure as hell is not fooling many of us who contribute to the Wolfpack Club for his scholarship. He entered the season with a physique that has obviously deteriorated over the last couple of years, and his effort has been consistent with what appears to be a lack of dedication off the floor. For the year, Fells is quickly approaching the record Brandon Costner set last season for number of easy passes dropped coupled with the number of lazy passes committed.

Today, I think Fells managed to play the entire game without boxing out a single Bost College Eagle while his perimeter defensive effort was as lackluster as his 2nd half effort at Duke earlier in the week. His shot selection was equally suspect, once appropriately drawing criticism from color commentator Jason Capel. He had one nice defensive play on a blocked shot; the problem is that he had to make that play to save face for playing bad defense that allowed his man to cut through the lane and easily catch an entry pass a couple of feet from the basket.

If you have limited time, just watch the first six and a half minutes of the game where Fells committed THREE unforced turnovers – one by having a simple pass slide through his hands and two boneheaded passes to Boston College defenders. Simultanwously, the player Fells was supposedly guarding managed to score almost half BC’s points in that time period. (Not that any other NC State player seemed to play defense in the first half). The official boxscore only shows Fells with two turnovers for the entire game. LOL! Riiiiiigh.

We’ve been increasingly frustrated with Fells’ anemic effort and resulting poor performances this year and just don’t think it is fair to ignore it any more. Many of the ‘little things’ like not coming to help the ball during pressure, failing to find the proper spacing without the ball on offense and not communicating with teammates on defense are things that don’t show up in the boxscore; although the boxscore showing 4 of 10 shooting; 0 of 4 from the three point line; and 0 of 2 from the free throw line certainly isn’t kind to Fells, either.

I expect someone will reference Fells’ lingering injury from the Davidson game. Maybe that has some merit. On the other hand, his inury has nothing to do with his lack of effort to find people to block out and play with just a tiny bit of consistent effort. Additionally seems just fine whenever there is a fast break for free points or an opportunity to get off a shot.

If there was any good news to come out of today’s game it would be the following:
(1) “The young guys” of Tracy Smith and Johnny Thomas again played very well and made things happen out there.
(2) Farnold Degand seems to be regaining some form and is gradually playing better. He is obviously the best option to start at point guard right now.
(3) Javi Gonzalez did not play.
(4) The official box score attributed State with only ten turnovers for the entire game.
(5) Johnny Thomas, Tracy Smith and Julius Mays combined for 8 of 11 shooting.

There was a lot of conversation in the open game entry. I am going to elevate one of the comments:

Well…All I can say is I’m proud of the effort in the 2nd half. We ran out of gas around the 6 minute mark, and everyone knew that when Trapani hit the three it was game.

If we put that same effort or even half of that effort in the first half, we win this game by 10. There was no effort whatsoever in the first half. I watched the game, but for those of you who didn’t it is apparent by the number of offensive rebounds that Boston College had. I can guarantee that 70% of the offensive boards came in the first half. Don’t get me wrong there were two, sometimes even three guys going for the board, but it’s a damn shame that they were all Boston College players.

Sid finally played the rotation we’ve been begging for. Costner, McCauley, Smith and the two guards. We made a 16-0 run with this lineup. Maybe Lowe will notice how good Smith and McCauley are together in the game, and keep Brandon at SF and put a rotation of Fells, Williams, Mays, and Degand in as guards. Maybe play Fergs for 5 mins a game, and see if he can provide. Also I wouldn’t mind seeing Thomas play some SF/SG some. He impressed me. In his few minutes he had some boards, hit a shot, and hustles like no one else on the court.

For all of you insulting Costner…drop it. Seriously. He’s changed his game completely. He got the ball completely stolen from him at the top of the key and instead of jogging down, he hustled down the court and made a good block, but unfortunately fouled the guy, but he HUSTLED . Another instance, A BC player got a rebound over Costner and ran it out, and Costner didn’t give up, chased him down and stole the ball from him. He’s hustling. That’s all you can ask for. His shot isn’t dropping right now, and he’s trying not to force it. Good for him. So seriously get off his back. All of you talk about other fans jumping on and off bandwagons, some of you are just as bad about jumping onto and off our players.

Degand played well, and had some good steals. The game is coming back to him. He can see things develop, he’s beginning to read people. Made some really nice passes, but also made a few bad ones. I honestly think he’ll turn out to be a good PG and I believe he’d be more than capable if not for the injury. I think Mays will be a better guard by the time his career is over, and is a better scorer, but he still makes a couple of freshman mistakes. He picks up his dribble a little too easily, and doesn’t look for his shot enough, but he’s getting there.

Ben also played well, but had a couple of cheap fouls called on him. You expect that playing on the road in the ACC, but not this bad. I may be the only one complaining about the refs, but I thought a lot of the loose balls that went out of bounds BC got. Which is funny considering how many people they had crashing the boards?? Anyways, Ben looked like a new man today, and wanted this win bad. It’s a shame he had to sit in the 2nd half.

So rotation rest of the year:

PG – Degand/Mays
SG – Fells/Williams/Thomas/Fergs (more when he’s back)
SF – Costner/Williams/Thomas
PF – Smith/Horner/Costner
C – McCauley/Smith/Costner

I would love to not see Dennis Horner in another minute of a red and white N.C. State jersey, but I think it’s inevitable. I also believe Gonzalez transfers. His minutes are done, which is unfortunate for him, but fortunate for N.C. State.

Good 2nd half effort Pack. Let’s go steal one from Miami and focus for 40 minutes. Let’s GO PACK

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94 Responses to Wolfpack can’t overcome atrocious early effort (Updated at 5pm)

  1. wufpup76 01/24/2009 at 4:17 PM #

    Selected Sidney post game comments:

    Big lineup came about as an effort to get rebounding better … no word on seeing it again

    “We were thinking about using the double on Rice earlier, but didn’t want to show it too early so they could adjust.” WHAT??? Not sure I understand that logic

    “We only had 10 turnovers!!!”

  2. jsmithpack14 01/24/2009 at 4:17 PM #

    sidney lowe- “my way or the highway”
    Thats all bullshit or is it that the way that everyone plays is his way. 1 or 2 more years and he’s gone. I hate to say it but it’s true.
    Also, I would love to see him get fired up at someone once. Get a technical or something.

  3. Rick 01/24/2009 at 4:22 PM #

    I cannot figure out why Fells keeps getting playing time. At least Horner tries. He is horrible but he tries. Fells just does not care.

    Lazy and stupid is a rough way to go through life, son.

  4. Sweet jumper 01/24/2009 at 4:25 PM #

    It’s hard to watch players who consistently underachieve and give less than all-out effort on a regular basis when someone like Kay Yow gave every ounce of effort and strength that she had to N. C. State and to beating a terminal illness. She never quit, her body just gave out. Our men’s bball team should take notice and learn from her example.

  5. 61Packer 01/24/2009 at 4:31 PM #

    Rick: “Fells just does not care.”

    Welcome to Wolfpack Nation……………….

  6. MA Wolfpack 01/24/2009 at 4:41 PM #

    I’m starting to think our 2G situation is worse than our PG situation (both are pathetic). Fegruson is the only 2G on our roster (I think CJ plays more like a 3 right now) and he hurts us if he misses wide open 3s. Brown may stay at the 2 next year with or without Wall with the hope that Degand can do enough as a Senior to bridge the gap to Harrow.

    I think we’ll get hot for 1 game and get lucky in another, but I do not see much better than 3-13 from this team. I consider us 1-8 right now factoring in the Wake and UNC losses.

  7. W0LFPack 01/24/2009 at 4:50 PM #

    I guess I’ll bring my novel of a comment over to this section, although some of it is written above, as StateFans and I obviously have some similar views. One that differs is, I believe Fells shot selection, with the exception of the last three minutes and one suspect three, was superb. I agree that CJ Williams and Johnny Thomas should take his minutes and grow, but it won’t happen. By the way, Sid is guaranteed three more years, you don’t fire him when he’s bringing in CJ Leslie and Ryan Harrow. (Harrow is apparently turning into a star, as a recent coach (Lorenzo Brown’s coach in fact) said you can’t stop Ryan Harrow, you can only hope to contain him). And is averaging close to 25-30 points a game. WOW…SORRY FOR THIS LONG COMMENT.

    Well…All I can say is I’m proud of the effort in the 2nd half. We ran out of gas around the 6 minute mark, and everyone knew that when Trapani hit the three it was game.

    If we put that same effort or even half of that effort in the first half, we win this game by 10. There was no effort whatsoever in the first half. I watched the game, but for those of you who didn’t it is apparent by the number of offensive rebounds that Boston College had. I can guarantee that 70% of the offensive boards came in the first half. Don’t get me wrong there were two, sometimes even three guys going for the board, but it’s a damn shame that they were all Boston College players.

    Sid finally played the rotation we’ve been begging for. Costner, McCauley, Smith and the two guards. We made a 16-0 run with this lineup. Maybe Lowe will notice how good Smith and McCauley are together in the game, and keep Brandon at SF and put a rotation of Fells, Williams, Mays, and Degand in as guards. Maybe play Fergs for 5 mins a game, and see if he can provide. Also I wouldn’t mind seeing Thomas play some SF/SG some. He impressed me. In his few minutes he had some boards, hit a shot, and hustles like no one else on the court.

    For all of you insulting Costner…drop it. Seriously. He’s changed his game completely. He got the ball completely stolen from him at the top of the key and instead of jogging down, he hustled down the court and made a good block, but unfortunately fouled the guy, but he HUSTLED . Another instance, A BC player got a rebound over Costner and ran it out, and Costner didn’t give up, chased him down and stole the ball from him. He’s hustling. That’s all you can ask for. His shot isn’t dropping right now, and he’s trying not to force it. Good for him. So seriously get off his back. All of you talk about other fans jumping on and off bandwagons, some of you are just as bad about jumping onto and off our players.

    Degand played well, and had some good steals. The game is coming back to him. He can see things develop, he’s beginning to read people. Made some really nice passes, but also made a few bad ones. I honestly think he’ll turn out to be a good PG and I believe he’d be more than capable if not for the injury. I think Mays will be a better guard by the time his career is over, and is a better scorer, but he still makes a couple of freshman mistakes. He picks up his dribble a little too easily, and doesn’t look for his shot enough, but he’s getting there.

    Ben also played well, but had a couple of cheap fouls called on him. You expect that playing on the road in the ACC, but not this bad. I may be the only one complaining about the refs, but I thought a lot of the loose balls that went out of bounds BC got. Which is funny considering how many people they had crashing the boards?? Anyways, Ben looked like a new man today, and wanted this win bad. It’s a shame he had to sit in the 2nd half.

    So rotation rest of the year:

    PG – Degand/Mays
    SG – Fells/Williams/Thomas/Fergs (more when he’s back)
    SF – Costner/Williams/Thomas
    PF – Smith/Horner/Costner
    C – McCauley/Smith/Costner

    I would love to not see Dennis Horner in another minute of a red and white N.C. State jersey, but I think it’s inevitable. I also believe Gonzalez transfers. His minutes are done, which is unfortunate for him, but fortunate for N.C. State.

    Good 2nd half effort Pack. Let’s go steal one from Miami and focus for 40 minutes. Let’s GO PACK

  8. blackdom 01/24/2009 at 4:52 PM #

    Effort,or lack of it ,uninspired play ,lack of fundementals BC came out and shot 1 for 9 and still had the ball 6 “O” rebounds in a row?
    This team has had plenty of practice time between games and they come out like this all the time.
    No matter how much smoke K and Henderson blew up our asses after the so called “season” changing defeat tues night . It speaks volumes how dook felt about that game witnees the maryland score.
    Lack of effort ,lackluster attitude reflects upon the coach period ,whether you have a great deal of talent or zero talent wht you teach or do not teach shows up between the lines.
    This week like 95% of the opinion was what a great job Sid is doing? WTF wake up please.

  9. blpack 01/24/2009 at 4:53 PM #

    We show a few signs of life and then act like we have never played before. More pain.

    http://www.geocities.com/portcityalumni/

  10. Pack Leader 01/24/2009 at 4:54 PM #

    thomas has more athleticism than fells, which is fells claim to fame, and is no where near as lackluster on passes. he hustles more and actually rebounds and boxes out. yes on occasion fells can shoot well but hell, thomas can hit a shot and has good form which gives hope he can practice and be a good shooter. i see no need for fells, horner, or javi on our team. they are wasting bench space and scholarship money. degand played his best game of the year and it seems like he can push the ball when the time is right. if we get to 1-5 or 1-6 in the acc i say screw it all seniors just wait till senior night to see the court again its time to let our young players gain experience. smith is better than costner i dont care what you say. mccauly honestly hustles and tries hard i see no reason for him not to play.

  11. wufpup76 01/24/2009 at 5:10 PM #

    Been a day of ugly basketball … This Tenn – Memphis game is horrific to watch

  12. BSIE80 01/24/2009 at 5:11 PM #

    Agree with most of the novel.

    Comments on Fells:
    I believe he is attempting to avoid further injury.
    Sid should sit him until he is 100%, however long it takes.

  13. JeremyH 01/24/2009 at 5:41 PM #

    wasn’t there talk about Fells on a draft board last year?

  14. packpowerfan 01/24/2009 at 5:50 PM #

    Sweetjumper hit it above. I honestly believe that if I were playing basketball for this school, and I had just received news of Kay Yow’s death, I would have played my butt off in this game. It is absolutely unspeakable that our men, and more specifically Courtney Fells, cannot exert one-billionth of the drive, courage and initiative that Coach Yow demonstrated.

    Two quick things —

    I sincerely hope that there is a very nice “memorial” at the Miami game, at least to rally the stands behind Kay’s family and her devotion to the game, to the University, and to decency in humanity.

    Also, I’m doing what I can to get as many people as I know to PACK IN the women’s game on Thursday. Hoops 4 Hope is going to be a tearjerker this year.

  15. MA Wolfpack 01/24/2009 at 6:01 PM #

    Tracy Smith is not better than Brandon Costner. Like it or not, Costner is easily NCSU’s most talented player. If you want to say that Costner does not play hard or is not motivated, then that is fine, but Costner has much more talent than Smith.

  16. Wulfpack 01/24/2009 at 6:13 PM #

    I just took a look at the standings and it’s pretty darn clear that the Pack, UVA and GT are bottom feeders, though I think MD could certainly make a run for the worst as well based on what I saw, or didn’t see, from them today at Cameron.

    Say what you want about BC but the fact is they’ve already won 3 ACC games. What month will it be when (or if) we win our third league game?

  17. WV Wolf 01/24/2009 at 6:17 PM #

    I felt the same way as Sweetjumper and packpowerfan. When Kay Yow fought cancer for over 20 years and on the day she passes away you can’t even fight for a rebound then I’ve got little use for you. Didn’t even watch the 2nd half, seemed pointless on a day like today.

  18. Alpha Wolf 01/24/2009 at 6:27 PM #

    Quite honestly, I will be very happy when ALL of Sendek’s players are gone. It seems like no game has gone by that one or more of the trio of Fells, McCauley or Costner fails to show up and it contributes to a loss.

    While I thank each of them for their efforts, I am eager to see what guys like Smith, Thomas, Mays and the rest do when they have the entire spread of minutes. Their effort is far more consistent.

  19. 44rules 01/24/2009 at 6:30 PM #

    Didn’t see any of the game in Georgia. But w/o Horner, we wouldn’t have one league win. Maybe Sid’s playing him too much, but hey, he at least tries.

  20. kyjelly 01/24/2009 at 6:37 PM #

    Awfull day ,very sad God Bless Coach Yow ,my thoughts and prayers are with her family.
    Sadly now there is not a basketball coach on campus.

  21. EverettBeez 01/24/2009 at 7:13 PM #

    Off topic –
    they are showing a coach Yow game on ESPN classic, sweet 16 game, but not sure of the year. Just wanted to give you a heads up because its not scheduled.

  22. PoppaJohn 01/24/2009 at 7:27 PM #

    GoPack headline = “Wolfpack Dealt Road Loss to Boston College”

    Do they speak the same language we do?

  23. PoppaJohn 01/24/2009 at 7:46 PM #

    “…Well…All I can say is I’m proud of the effort in the 2nd half. We ran out of gas around the 6 minute mark …”

    I appreciate that the author is looking for the bright spots, but I think it is very sad to say that we had 14 good minutes against a team that no one would mistake for great.

    Despite the lousy first half, this one was winnable. We let it get away because of our poor play, and I hate it.

  24. ClassOf95 01/24/2009 at 8:05 PM #

    I think I am going to invent some new adjectives because we have been saying the exact same thing for close to 20 YEARS!

    Has anyone else noticed that we have no set offensive out of bounds play? It seems we simply look to throw it long to the top of the key. When we lack something so obvious, what else isn’t there.

    And can anyone remember the last player that improved his game while at State? Is that a fair question? I feel like our players show up as freshmen and leave years later with the same skill-set.

    And speaking of freshmen, there seem to be quite a few fellow fans that think our upcoming guys are going to come in and compete with Duke, UNC, and Wake when they not only have equally regarded recruits but also a team full of already established top ACC players.

  25. transylvania 01/24/2009 at 8:10 PM #

    I think you will enjoy your winter afternoons a lot more if you get a nice fire going and curl up with a good book. There are some really good books out now.

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