Friedlander: Wolfpack Still Searching For Its Identity

Brett Friedlander of the Wilmington Star-News has an interesting column this morning, in which he posits that so far this year NC State as yet to reveal itself as either a good — or a bad — hoops squad:

ACC Insider: Wolfpack Still Searching For Its Identity

Five games in, the Wolfpack remains just as much a mystery as it was the day coach Sidney Lowe rolled out the balls for the opening day of practice back in mid-October.

Oh, there have been some positive signs, particularly the resurgence of big men Brandon Costner and Ben McCauley – both of whom might as well have redshirted last year for all they contributed.

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At this point, the Wolfpack has the potential to be anything from an NCAA Tournament team to out of the postseason for the second year in a row.

A lot of the up and down play can be attributed to injuries, but at the same time, this is a Wolfpack team that has never been consistent — the same players were as maddeningly inconsistent under the previous coaching regime as they have been under Lowe.  Perhaps that is what their identity is – a team that can beat nearly anybody but can also lose to nearly anyone they play as well.

As Friedlander says, the NCAA is a possibility – the talent is there, assuming Degand can man the point guard position for a majority of minutes and that his play returns to the level is was just before he hurt his knee last seasn.  Also, Brandon Costner and Ben McCauley will have to play 100% every night, and at times, that has been a problem for the talented duo.

At the same time, a losing season in the ACC and a quick exit on the first day of the conference tournament is also a possibility.  Were that to happen Sidney Lowe and his vaunted incoming class for 2009 would be under enormous pressure, and quite possibly Lowe could be coaching to avoid fan revolt – I would say his job, but anyone who knows anything about Lee Fowler and NC State sports knows that Fowler will sit pat no matter what happens.

Bottom line is that talent is indeed on the way for Lowe and his NC State team, but that’s next year and Sidney Lowe needs to maximize this year’s team and get the most out of it that it can possibly achieve.  Slipping into the NCAA would certainly define him as a good coach and a good team-builder.  Having a repeat of last year would leave him with major question marks and a fanbase thinking that he may not be the leader to return NC State to college basketball glory.

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61 Responses to Friedlander: Wolfpack Still Searching For Its Identity

  1. bradleyb123 12/15/2008 at 4:53 PM #

    Good points, packalum44.

    I figure if he backs out of his commitment to the Pack, then he lacks the character that TOB wants in a recruit anyway. Still, I’d like to see him stay with us to help us send a message that WE are the team of the future in this conference.

  2. Noah 12/15/2008 at 4:57 PM #

    A “gentleman’s agreement” and a “an agreement between a unicorn and a fairy godmother” are very similar.

  3. choppack1 12/15/2008 at 5:00 PM #

    Rather than focusing on Javi vs. Warren – which is a little unfair since we don’t have all the info available, one of things that does worry me is that we haven’t been able to find a good combo guard – until this year – who can play both positions and can shoot and defend. They shouldn’t be too hard to find – a simple look at the guards who have been able to be effective against us should prove that.

    It’s kind of insane to think that an individual who has spent his the last 25 years either playing or coaching pro basketball can evaluate high school talent for the college game, but evidently our AD didn’t think about that.

  4. pakfanistan 12/15/2008 at 5:06 PM #

    It’s all good because we have Towe to help us find the creme de la creme.

  5. Gene 12/15/2008 at 6:08 PM #

    I really think some of Sid’s decisions last year and the year before were done to just get bodies into the program, which is why he took a big chance on guys like Lewodonski, Johnson, and Degand. Before you jump on me about Degand, Iowa state decided to red-shirt him. He wasn’t a superstud-Chris Paul-like PG coming out of high school and we still don’t know how good (or bad) he can be, because of his injuries.

    I also think Sid didn’t appreciate the leadership of Atsur and didn’t know there’d be a void, until it was too late last year. I chalk that up to inexperience at this level.

    “Those who think that all we need is to recruit talent are in a deeper funk than this program is.

    Without top talent, you can hire the greatest coach in the world and you still won’t be winning titles.

  6. WP-PHAN 12/15/2008 at 6:47 PM #

    Seems awfully similar to alot of the same things we were posting during football season. Wait until TOB gets his players, creates depth, has a quarterback. Oh wait, we found one and look what happended once he had a little p.t. Once Sid has a PG capable of running the show in the best conference in the land, then we can start our judgements. Lets just hope its not to painfull of a ride b/f that happens.

  7. redfred2 12/15/2008 at 8:44 PM #

    “Once Sid has a PG capable of running the show in the best conference in the land, then we can start our judgements.”

    You worded it better, but you took the words right out of my mouth.

    I think the header even said that Degand was no Russell Wilson, and that Lowe was no TOB. Those comparisons may sound really meaningful considering the luxury of hindsight, but they wouldn’t have meant a thing earlier, or without a LATE SEASON surge that TOOK SOME TIME to materialize for TOB and the entire FB program.

    I know there will never be a consensus regarding the talent that the former BB coach left behind, but I’d also like to remind some folks that Chuck Amato got absolutely abused for not leaving much talent behind in the FB program either. So let’s all keep that in mind and show a little patience here regarding Sidney Lowe’s dilemna right now. He needs to have the good fortune of seeing a kid who is willing to step up into a leadership role in BB as well, just like TOB received his good fortune early this season on the FB field. We can only hope, but unfortunately it doesn’t look like there are any older players in the program who have the ability to take that leadership role right now, so we are forced to look to the future in that regard.

  8. PackMagic83 12/15/2008 at 9:00 PM #

    I’m amused by all the fans who are in a deep funk because they’ve already played the season out in their own minds. Let’s try not to be the anti-Valvano’s. As in – fan’s who never seem to give up giving up 🙂 .

    What I’ve seen hasn’t been as bad as some of you make it sound. No, Javi, is not the point guard to lead us to a national champianship (see – even I have my limits to optimism). But I remember last year when he was like a deer in the headlights. He really is improving. At least he’s not being thrown this year into the deep end of the pool on his first start by playing in front of a hostile crowd in CH. At this point I’ll settle for a competent point guard that can get the ball across mid-court. Remember the middle of Lowe’s first season, when Atsur was injured and we had the point guard tandem of Grant and Fells. I like the athleticism of both of those players, but every trip down the court was an adventure. We have a lot of players who still haven’t had a lot of playing time. So I’m willing to wait and see how they develop against the competition this season.

    If we’re lucky Farnold Degand will get over his knee tendenitis before the start of ACC and maybe even recover enough for Marquette and Florida. I also hope that Courtney Fells has a mild ankle injury. I also hope Brandon Costner remembers that he is not still injured (I hope) and beats Big Ben down the court one time. I’ve got my fingers crossed and I’m knocking on wood.

    One other comment. We have been getting faster starts to the game than last year so maybe Lowe has been able to get this team motivated before the games. Remember the first year we were a second half team by necessity (no bench) and last year a second half team by habit. I hope this team has put that habit behind them for good.

  9. bradleyb123 12/16/2008 at 9:34 AM #

    “or without a LATE SEASON surge that TOOK SOME TIME to materialize for TOB and the entire FB program. ”

    That was more than a “LATE SEASON surge”. It coincides with the return of Nate Irving and Alan-Michael Cash. The defense was in a funk until those two got back in the lineup. Once they returned, the defense did their job and we won games.

    If they had returned sooner, we could have easily won any or all of the three games that immediately preceded our winning streak. We almost won them anyway. But the defense couldn’t get key stops at the end of those games.

  10. Noah 12/16/2008 at 10:19 AM #

    Tom O’Brien has a long, long track record of excellence. He was an outstanding assistant coach under George Welsh. He was an outstanding head coach at Boston College.

    I offer no opinion on Sidney Lowe. But prior to his hire here, he had no record whatsoever at the college level. His professional record was a long, long way from “outstanding.” Or “good.” Or “average.”

    So, I see no value in comparing the current football program to our current basketball program. There are no tea leaves to be read from either.

  11. bradleyb123 12/16/2008 at 10:31 AM #

    With Sid, we “went cheap” and got what we paid for — a coach with no college coaching experience. He’s getting on-the-job training. How could we expect more from him than what we’ve gotten so far? You don’t buy a Honda Accord and expect it to go 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds.

    I think Sid has potential to get the job done. But Herb left the cupboard bare, and Sid is dealing with that. It takes years to build something from scratch, and that is where we were when he took over.

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