Focus on Football

We’ve got some solid football items to digest today.

  • Heather Dinich has ranked the ACC Bowl games in order of most entertaining.  The Wolfpack vs the Scarlet Knights is a strong second on the list.  It’s interesting a bowl that is not an official ACC Bowl and includes the ACC’s 10th team is ranked so highly.  It says a lot for how well the Wolfpack is playing.  (Click here)

NC State vs. Rutgers: Football fans should be more excited about this game than they probably are. It’s going to feature two interesting quarterbacks in Mike Teel and Russell Wilson, who have both been the difference for their respective teams down the stretch. For ACC fans who have spent the whole season watching standout defenses, this should be a refreshing game.

 

  • Speaking of bowl lists, you really have to give J.P. Giglio at the ACCNow a lot of credit for the way that he covered the evolving bowl landscape.  Giglio was clearly a step ahead of everyone all week.  Last Tuesday Giglio nailed the key domino in the ACC by reporting the Champs Bowl’s preference to take FSU, thereby opening the path to send UNC-CH to Charlotte; he was right almost a week early.  It was funny to watch other news outlets like WRAL follow Giglio’s reports and piggyback his analysis with stories that referred to “reports” of UNC-CH going to the Meineke Bowl but never citing the sourceof the ‘reports’.  If you read Giglio’s projections closely you would note that he did not report that UNC-CH was going to the Meineke Bowl; what he did was  (accurately) analyze the ACC’s Bowl situation based on his sources. In the end, Giglio correctly projected 31 of 34 bowls for a fantastic success rate.  (Click here)

 

  • Somehow Dr. Saturday’s fantastic piece about Russell Wilson “Resurrecting NC State” flew under the radar on the internet.  The following chart and quote are from the article.   (Click here)

Most of college football took one look at the debacle at South Carolina and wrote off the Pack as lame ducks for the year. I’m pretty sure I wondered at some point if they would score an offensive touchdown all season.

 

  • NJ.com has a very interesting expose about Rutgers football.  It’s long and it’s detailed and it’s good.  It also reminds me of the enhanced of attention that is applied to burgeoning programs by local media looking to make a name for themselves with ‘investigative journalism’’   (Click here)

For a decade now, Rutgers University has pushed hard to become a college football powerhouse.  But in trying to play with the big boys, New Jersey’s state university picked up some of their bad habits.

Two weeks ago a special university commission concluded the athletics department had been allowed to operate like a rogue agent, making secret deals and spending recklessly with little oversight. An internal audit concluded much the same.

After months of revelations of hidden spending, no-bid contracts and growing funding problems with a costly stadium expansion project, Rutgers now is at a crossroad. Later this week, the university’s governing board is to meet over what to do about the stadium, and discuss how to rein in its athletics department.

Meanwhile, a six-month Star-Ledger investigation of Rutgers athletics — including a new review of public records the university fought to keep confidential — shows big-time college football has come at a greater price than the school has yet disclosed and still refuses to fully document.

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73 Responses to Focus on Football

  1. Alpha Wolf 12/09/2008 at 3:36 PM #

    It is difficult to understand why Rutger’s has wall sized photos of the V man and we hardly have a mention of him….

    Go over to Pack Pride and ask Bob Kennel about that.

    Also welcome to the Rutgers fans who have wandered in. We hope you join into the conversation about the upcoming bowl game.

  2. BJD95 12/09/2008 at 3:58 PM #

    Yes, welcome to all our Rutgers visitors. We promise to be civil, no matter how pissed we were at you for losing to the Holes and the Butch Davis media fluff-fest that game created. 🙂

  3. packalum44 12/09/2008 at 4:13 PM #

    Jon:
    I think most State fans are fond of Rutgers because Jimmy V went there. Please do beat UNC next time you play them though. You got those guys all excited about their potential. Out of curiosity, do you think Rutgers’ fans will show up in numbers to the bowl game? I don’t think this game will get sold out but I sure hope that us Wolfpack fans can back up our talk of traveling well. I would expect it to be around 40-50K. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

  4. Alpha Wolf 12/09/2008 at 4:39 PM #

    I expect a very good game that may well come down to offensive efficiency. This is a very different Rutgers team than the one that played UNC and I suspect it would be a much better game were the two to meet again.

    They’re playing very good football, so are we, and assuming both teams are healthy, this may be one of the most entertaining of all the bowl games.

    Which leads me to Stuart Mandel’s ranking of all bowls:

    26. PapaJohns.com (Dec. 29): Rutgers (7-5) vs. NC State (6-6). You know your bowl is fairly low on the totem pole when ESPN schedules it for 3 p.m. on a random Monday. Apparently the World Poker Tour is off for the holidays.

  5. jsmithpack14 12/09/2008 at 6:09 PM #

    This may be a little off topic, but in all the light of TOB being the man, and NC State football program going in the right direction, I have a few words to say. We all said this is what was going on the first years of Chuck, and we cannot get ahead of ourselves again. If you think about it, Russell made TOB this year. Phillip made Chuch and its the same with Weis. I would wait a year or two to start saying TOB is the excact guy for our program. Yes I know he has done a good job, but lets not push it guys.

  6. wufpup76 12/09/2008 at 6:16 PM #

    ^The only context in which Stuart has a point here is in the “prestige” of this bowl

    Everything else about this match-up pretty much speaks for itself methinks … Of course, I am blatantly biased

  7. Dr. BadgerPack 12/09/2008 at 6:23 PM #

    jsmithpack14– The big difference which is observable early is, unlike Chuck, it is blatantly obvious TOB knows how to recruit an offensive line. Heck, unlike Chuck he has a proven track record of player development in the capacity of head coach, and he has the bulk of that staff with him.

    Should be a fun bowl game. I’m thinking go with the over, if you’re into that sort of thing. 🙂

  8. vtpackfan 12/09/2008 at 6:51 PM #

    …and TOB is/has been a HC; something that teams who hire coordinators (Weiss) and position coaches (Amato, whatever weird named guy is at Clemp) have to wait and find out if they will ever become HC’s.

  9. GAWolf 12/09/2008 at 6:55 PM #

    Anyone else start humming the theme to “The Sopranos” while reading the piece on Rutgers Football? Maybe it was just me…

  10. Jon 12/09/2008 at 7:48 PM #

    RU’s offense wasn’t in sync the first two months of the season. It was a shame, because everyone really thought the team would be loaded this year.

    There haven’t been any reports on ticket sales yet. The fans did show up well during the past three bowls (Arizona, Houston, and Toronto). I’d guess 10,000+, but it’s too early to say.

  11. buttPACKer 12/09/2008 at 7:57 PM #

    Jon,

    if Rutgers travels as well as NC State, it should sell out.

    It will almost certainly be a great game. . .

  12. jsmithpack14 12/09/2008 at 8:01 PM #

    Dr. BadgerPack- Yes TOB can recruit offensive lineman, but where are the defensive players we need like safeties and DB’s. We only only have one or two DB’s on the commitment list and a few safeties that may come, but no guaranties.

  13. EverettBeez 12/09/2008 at 9:03 PM #

    Lord knows we need all of you all to come down here. Eduction in this state is in its own budget, totally funded by our sales tax. So come one down and spend, spend, spend!! Save our universities from proration! My department already took a 47% cut to the operating budget. Come! Spend!

    All the SFN readers should wear buttons or something so we can ID each other. Be fun to see and put a face with names.

    The N&O in the day was all about head hunting. Valvano was the biggest name they took down, but Lt Gov Jimmy Green and the Wake school Super (Murphy I think) was also victims. They wanted Jesse Helms, but couldn’t get that old rascal.

    AlphaWolf, you were spot on with the corrections. the infamous 2C. Last section, opened the page to see the obits, you had to look to your left to see corrections.

  14. Dr. BadgerPack 12/09/2008 at 10:11 PM #

    “Eduction in this state is in its own budget, totally funded by our sales tax.”

    I’ll be sure to spend enough so that you can afford the missing ‘a’… 🙂

    Sorry EB… I couldn’t resist. It’s getting late for those of us who rise at 3am. Seriously, I don’t see why any state would want to solely fund education with sales tax. Seems like an unpredictable source of revenue.

    And the N&O is bad, but I haven’t read too many rags across the coutry that aren’t in one way or another. Could be worse… folks could be stuck reading a student newspaper. Shudder…

  15. SouthernWolf 12/09/2008 at 10:54 PM #

    The main problem with the N&O is that they have almost no reporters or columnists anymore so the total newspaper takes about 10-15 min to read, especially on mondays

  16. SidtheKid 12/09/2008 at 10:56 PM #

    There is some bowl stuff and Wilson/Irving T Shirts on go pack. Can someone tell me why we have to rely on Austin Station to make NC State apparel when we have a deal with Adidas?

  17. EverettBeez 12/09/2008 at 11:07 PM #

    thanks Dr. Badger. lol. First, they come for the A’s.
    We use the sales tax so that the big property owners (Big Mules as they are known here) won’t have to pay property taxes. With my homestead exemption I pay $300 a year in property taxes. Let me tell you, our state services show it.

    The N&O is in no way the poorest paper in the country. But papers around the country are dying, which I am sad about because I am a daily reader. they blame advertising. they ought to look at the biases crap they print.

    It’d be nice if I could get the folks here to talk about this match up, be a good game to get local folks too. Too bad we are possessed by the SEC Champ game, & the Auburn search (why aren’t they opening the check book for Butch? growing support for gill) (Actually spent my 7 yr olds basketball game talking about the coach search!)

  18. SouthernWolf 12/09/2008 at 11:07 PM #

    “Dr. BadgerPack- Yes TOB can recruit offensive lineman, but where are the defensive players we need like safeties and DB’s. We only only have one or two DB’s on the commitment list and a few safeties that may come, but no guaranties.”

    Recruiting players is important, however developing players and teaching them to play together as one unit is more important. On defense every man has a responsibilty and all must do their jobs to suceed as a unit. There are plays where a defense end’s job is to use all his skills and athletic prowess to rush the quarterback, there are other plays where his job is to get contain on the edge. It does not matter how athletic and talented he is if he decides to rush on a contain play or visa versa. Tom O’Brien and mike archer have shown the ability to develop players (Robbie Leonard) that they did not recruit as well as get the defense to play together this year despite injuries and early season struggles.
    In addition discipline is very important in winning football. Under Chuck Amato we were consitantly top 25 in the country in avg penalty yards per game and consitantly had games where we had 100+ penalty yards. That is not winning football. Inheriting that undisciplined culture and many of the same players Tom Obrien has improved us to 65th nationally in penalty yards per game. This is despite the problems we had breaking in defensive tackles on the oLine and all the injury problems over the past two years.
    Obviously all this does not gaurentee that Tom Obrien will continue to build upon these milestones, but it does show that there are concrete trends which would lend a betting man to think that TOB may be here for a while.

  19. SouthernWolf 12/09/2008 at 11:17 PM #

    I also enjoy reading print but I think in todays digital world local newspapers are going to have to reinvent themselves. I say they drop the national and world news section since people can read more about those issues online than a newspaper would ever be able to cover in print. Instead devote allmost all of the papers resources into beefing up local/state coverage issues that are not likely to be covered by major online news corps. Also beef up the number of columists writing for the paper. Even if people disagree with their collums they will still read them. I remember I used to play a game several years ago to see how many of Caulton Tudor’s points I could refute in a given collum.

  20. vtpackfan 12/10/2008 at 8:02 AM #

    Regarding attracting and signing players to fit TOB’s scheme for D, just again rest assure that he is laying the ground work again and when he get’s done here he will leave his stamp on that side of the ball equal to if not better then Amato.

    The players he brought in to BC and developed are impressive. As for S look no further then Jamie Silva who graduated last year and is in the pro’s now. That is just one of many examples of the right mix of characteristics to HS kid brings to the table to fit right in to TOB’s system.

    My advice jsmith is for most of the signed/enrolled guys look at the name of a recruit and store it away. Don’t look at position he played in HS or where the town was he grew up in. If he survives the early goings of scout squad and tops the performance based evaluation of the coaches then you’ll find out what this player is all about. He will play his responsibility and hit the other players to the point where next days film day is uncomfortable to sit down during.

    A solid % of them will be givin a shot to make it on a NFL roster when it’s all said and done. Rosy outlook yes, but look what was/stil is being done by players at BC that were passed on by lots of profile schools when they came out of HS.

  21. Noah 12/10/2008 at 9:53 AM #

    Yes TOB can recruit offensive lineman, but where are the defensive players we need like safeties and DB’s.

    If we exclude Jarvis Byrd (and I think we should), we still have commitments from:

    Morgan Alexander – High school running back, who will play either WR or DB in college;

    Dean Haynes – High school quarterback who will probably play cornerback in college;

    Everett Proctor – High school quarterback who will be given a shot at QB, but will probably end up playing free safety;

    Hans Rice – High school outside linebacker who will either be our strongside linebacker or strong safety (depends on how fast he really is); and,

    Rashard Smith – High school running back (I think) who will probably play safety (but could also end up playing any skill position on either side of the ball).

    We are also recruiting:

    – Jonathan Meeks, a safety from Hargrave;
    – Jarrel Harrison, a safety from SF JC;
    – Brandon Bishop, a safety from Florida; and,
    – Donald Coleman, from the Hun School in New Jersey (alma mater of Shea Mckeen and Antrel Rolle) who is very similar to Hans Rice.

    Furthermore, I would argue that the defensive line is more of a pressing need this year than the secondary.

  22. packalum44 12/10/2008 at 10:00 AM #

    Quite simply, TOB is the man. Would not trade him for anybody because I honestly and naively think he is staying for 10+ years. No other coach is better. Yes, maybe they recruit better (Nick Saban) but I don’t think there is anyone better in the business of coaching/developing players and building a program. It is yet to be determined if he can take a mediocre program and compete for national championships. However, I do not think it is unfathomable for an ACC team to run the table and have a darn good shot at playing in the title game in the not to distant future.

    Moreover, TOB is a mirror image of his recruits. He is damn good but he flies under the radar….but not as far under as we would like to think. If he marketed himself, he could have landed one of these big time gigs in the past few years.

  23. SEAT.5.F.2 12/10/2008 at 11:57 AM #

    Bishop, a S out of Sunshine state verbals. Recruiting class has been has some great momnetum right now, amazing what stringing along W’s can do to help ease the process.

    Holding out hope the Herbet, the JuCo DT monster, will come aboard, although he has some real Heavy weights after him, including his first LOI with Tenn. Teams would have to choose between double teaming him or AM Cash, and that could be a lethal duo.

  24. SouthernWolf 12/10/2008 at 12:33 PM #

    a little off topic but speaking of recruiting and player commits, does anyone know what happened to Sam Jones, that big OT commit we got last year? I dont see him listed on the roster on gopack.com

  25. Alpha Wolf 12/10/2008 at 12:36 PM #

    ^ Enrolling in January, I have heard.

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