State/Clemson Live Blogging

Pre-Game:

Some simple, painful truths – Clemson under Bowden always shits the bed when it has an opportunity to take the “next step” – but with it’s collective back against the wall, they almost always win, and win easily. Naturally, we get version 2 of the Tiggers today.

Even worse, the temperature will approach 90 degrees as the game wears on. That means dehydration, cramping, and more playing time for 2nd (and even 3rd) string players. Giant advantage – Clemson.

My goals for Clemson game, repeated from last night’s thread:

1) Don’t get Wilson hurt.

2) Don’t get Irving hurt.

3) Don’t get Andre Brown hurt.

4) Don’t get shut out.

Accomplish those tasks and I’ll be as happy as the proverbial pig in shit. Live blogging will commence now.

First Half:

12:02 – Holy shit! We have HD coverage! I predict this is the happiest I will be all afternoon.

12:11 – Is there really only one Nate Irving on the field? He’s everywhere. One play, and it’s 6-0 Pack. Extra point is blocked, so he still might be the only State player to score today.

12:19 – Clemson moving at will. Not good.

12:21 – State catches break, as Harper misses wide open WR for six on first down. But State gets no pressure on Harper on 3rd and 8. A lot has been said about Clemson’s inexperienced OL, but they are acquitting themselves well so far. 7-6, Clemson.

12:27 – The first drop of the afternoon belongs to Andre Brown. But Wilson scrambles for a first on 3rd and long. Thank God he got out of bounds.

12:30 – Run, Russell, run!!!

12:32 – Time to punt. When Clemson blitzes, we are fucked.

12:33 – Punt goes 17 yards. It’s ankle-grabbing time for the Pack.

12:37 – Wow, Tiggers go 3 and out. This would be good news, except the ball is downed around the 4. A safety may be forthcoming.

12:41 – Wilson gets helmet knocked off. Shit. At least he got up. Time out, State.

12:45 – Underwood really playing well.

12:47 – Wilson’s pocket awareness is light year’s ahead of Beck and especially Evans. Offense isn’t threatening, but it is picking up first downs and giving the defense a breather. I am very pleased with the effort and execution so far.

12:56 – We sure do love jumping offsides today.

1:00 – Holding Clemson to 3 here would be huge. If we do it, there’s still a good chance that we can keep the score respectable.

1:03 – Mission accomplished. 10-6, Tiggers.

1:09 – Nice edge rush from Clemson, State punts, Tigger ball on their own 40. Gut check time.

1:11 – Fucking offsides AGAIN, Clemson gains 30 on the free play. Lack of discipline may open the floodgates.

1:14 – Yep, floodgates open. 2 play TD drive, 17-6 Clemson. The ass kicking is in full swing.

1:19 – Pre-planned series for Beck?

1:21 – Pierson shanks again.

1:24 – Just like after the last shank, defense holds. Maybe we will get to the half only down 11. Wilson returns.

1:27 – One can’t overstate just how shitty our OL is. Clemson almost throws another pick.

1:32 – Finally, we get a hit on Harper.

Halftime:

Everything went about as well as could reasonably be expected. In the morning Gameday thread, I predicted 34-10. Clemson is halfway there, State is 60% there. We’re certainly not going to win, and may not be able to keep our finger in the dike much longer (i.e., semi-respectable score). But I am satisfied – this is certainly a team that can beat Boston College, and maybe challenge the jackhole Pirates next week.

Second Half:

1:58 – Graham tries to do too much on kick returns.

2:05 – Big spearing penalty keeps Pack drive alive. Maybe Tammy should focus his guys on playing football, instead of killing our QB. Just some friendly advice.

2:11 – Bite me, Josh. This will completely deflate us.

2:13 – Why the fuck didn’t we pick up that fumble and run with it?

2:17 – Clemson continues to head hunt. Fucking assholes.

2:19 – If you had Curtis Crouch in a “first knee injury” pool, congratulations! Can our OL get any shittier? We are about to find out.

2:22 – Great 4th down throw. Thank God no field goal try.

2:29 – Inexplicably, we kick a FG on 4th and 1 from the 4. 8 point game after 3 quarters, but State has clearly blown its chances to be in position to win. Damn it all to fuck and back.

2:34 – Nate joins the fuck-up parade, drops sure pick. Tiggers get 3 for a 20-9 lead. The only remaining suspense is whether Clemson can get a backdoor cover in garbage time.

2:41 – Wilson has made great decisions all game long. In the second half, he’s made some really great throws as well. That’s the positive to take into next week.

2:44 – INT, but a chance Wilson had to take. And it works like a great punt, spotted at the 4.

2:47 – It must be hotter than hell – the officials aren’t calling anything. Missed a clear false start on Clemson and a late hit on us (same play).

3:08 – Wow, the last play of the game was exciting for gamblers, wasn’t it? Pack holds on for the 1/2 point cover!

Final Score: Clemson 27, NC State 9.

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210 Responses to State/Clemson Live Blogging

  1. old13 09/13/2008 at 3:01 PM #

    288 total yards against a D that has averaged 425+ yards against it. 3 points by our O against BCS teams in the last 13 quarters. I think we’ve seen our win for the year.

  2. inhoc... 09/13/2008 at 3:03 PM #

    we really should have tried to put the ball in the endzone on those 4th downs, could have been 14 instead of 3…..ugh, woulda coulda shoulda. when your just playing for pride like we were today i dont see why its a bad thing to just to let the kids go out there and fight for a first down….

  3. Wulfpack 09/13/2008 at 3:04 PM #

    “think about, even if we played a perfect game with penalties and turnovers, then we still don’t win this game against THIS opponent.”

    Really? I think otherwise. I recall being down inside the Clemson 10 twice and we got a total of 3 points out of it. The game could have been a whole lot different if we could just figure out a way to score an offensive touchdown. Turnovers did not hurt us. I will agree that Clemson is better than us. But I do not think they are a shoe-in for the ACC title game. They looked poor against Bama and weren’t overly impressive today. But by our inability to score, and our constant move forward 10 yards and then back another five for some stupid penalty, Clemson really didn’t have to do a whole lot to win and was able to control the game.

  4. inhoc... 09/13/2008 at 3:07 PM #

    guys, its week 1 of acc play. i am frustrated ass hell. but seriously you really talking one win season?
    how about last year when we started 1 and 5….we followed up and imporved.
    we really have nothing to work with right now, thanks in part to Chucky….
    the wheels havnt fallen off the bus just yet…
    the next two games arent going to be easy, we’ll probably be 1 and 4 but we can turn some things around….

  5. redfred2 09/13/2008 at 3:17 PM #

    I’d say that there might have been a small bit of progress made today, but whatever that progress was, it was offset by penalties.
    I don’t have anything good to add so I’m going leave it alone.

    BTW, is it just me, or has anyone else found themselves pulling against GT since PJ arrived?

  6. Greywolf 09/13/2008 at 3:22 PM #

    From another thread earlier today…
    “I wouldn’t be surprised to see Eugene and Brown in the same lineup with Eugene at some sort of H back with the field spread and in motion a full throttle behind the deep back for pitches while the D is held in by the threat of Brown’s inside running. Brown up the middle, Eugene wide in one direction and Wilson bootlegging in the otherm with WOs going deep taking DBs with them, TE in the middle along with Brown sneaking through as safeties try to decide between pass coverage and run support.”

    Take out the Pack names and put in some Tiggers and that’s pretty much what we saw from Clempson today. That misdirection hand-off and pitch caused us a bunch of trouble.

  7. BJD95 09/13/2008 at 3:38 PM #

    This was a very good effort. Clemson is better than South Carolina, but we were in the game in the 4th quarter.

    Yes, this team can beat East Carolina – if we play just a tad better than we played today. Clemson was much bigger and faster than us. ECU won’t be. That’s a critical distinction.

  8. partialqualifier 09/13/2008 at 3:43 PM #

    We WERE in the game….but that was with Clemson playing as poorly as humanly possible. We have played 2 D-I opponents…both played absolutely horrible…and we have been outscored 61-9. Sorry guys…that aint nothing to hang our hat on.

  9. partialqualifier 09/13/2008 at 3:57 PM #

    As for Russell Wilson…

    I like him…think he is wonderful…and think that he MAY one day be a solid D-I QB….but as TOB said…”we are a performance based organization”…so lets look at the performance:

    6 quarters…3 offensive points. 11-26 O TD’s 1 int.

    …and that was with a pretty good running game.

    I dont care how you try and dress it up…that is terrible.

  10. BoKnowsNCS71 09/13/2008 at 4:06 PM #

    Give RW a break. Those stats are against two tough teams. SCar is leading GA right now at the half 7 to 6 and and CU is picked to win the ACC. It’s the kids first year and we have no one else who can fit in unless we want to burn Glennon’s red shirt season.

  11. Noah 09/13/2008 at 4:10 PM #

    First, regarding Clemson — Clemson is about 100 times better than us at every single position. It’s completely unacceptable that we were even in this game for so much of the day. I’ve never been one to pile on Tommy Bowden, but these guys are going to get their butts whipped against good teams this year.

    Okay, about us — The offense is awful. You know if you combined our roster with Michigan’s, you’d have about eight scholarship QBs and probably 25 OL. And not one of them would be worth a damn.

    I was disturbed that Wilson was unable to even spot a receiver that was running a hitch or an out. If it wasn’t a running back coming out of the backfield or a TE dragging across the middle, it apparently was wearing Harry Potter’s invisibility cloak.

    Special teams — ugh.

  12. b 09/13/2008 at 4:15 PM #

    Yeah, penalties were the big negative, and yes Clemson was more explosive than us. But they have two Sr. WRs and Sr QB to throw them the ball.

    If their best WR and Spiller weren’t in the game like Eugene and Bowens weren’t, we would have had a shot. We held the ball, made a few more plays, and our QB (playing his first complete game BTW) grew up a tad. The TOP edge kept the D as fresh as possible, and they were down 17-9 in the fourth quarter with 82,000 sitting on their damn hands.

    Penalties were the killer, and obviously TOB is responsible for the product on the field, throw stones if you like. But you need to take a step back and ask yourself how many teams in the nation would have won in Death Valley with an unproven QB, your best WR, best TE, and prolly best overall RB not playing. There are about a handful.

    Give our team a little credit for Clemson playing poorly, and Clemson’s gameplanning a little credit for all the offsides. They were obviously trying to use cadence to keep our DL in the chute, and it worked like a charm. Our guys played the TO battle even, and won the points off battle. Brown and Underwood ran hard, and we outran the best RB tandem in the league until that put away drive.

    We need to improve drastically, but we tripled our passing offense from the USC game, doubled our overall offensive output, and scored against a D1 opponent. And probably the best team in our conference.

    I’m not gonna look for a reason to kick my mutt because he lost a dog show.

  13. Wulfpack 09/13/2008 at 4:23 PM #

    I never expected a win against Clemson. But I do expect better from our coaching staff. I am very disappointed in the product on the field. I am very disappointed in the pattern developing. I am very disappointed in HOW we lose. We have become losers, the doormat in our division. Change it.

    Clemson may not fair very well this year. A bowl team, sure, but no way do I see them as the ACC favorite right now. If they are, then this league is a total farse.

  14. partialqualifier 09/13/2008 at 4:24 PM #

    b….

    If we were a D-IAA team…I would be thrilled.

  15. Scooter 09/13/2008 at 4:27 PM #

    Between Doc and Ron Cherry, I don’t think I’ll be able to watch Raycom again…

    At least we didn’t get shut out, and at least Wilson lives to play next week. It would be hard to expect a win against Clemson in Deathvalley in Wilson’s first full game.

  16. Noah 09/13/2008 at 4:28 PM #

    We arent that far away from being a I-AA. There are plenty of I-AA teams that could beat us.

    We are starting walkons on the OL, at TE, at FB, and at LB.

  17. Scooter 09/13/2008 at 4:30 PM #

    It saddens me that for four years running, it appears that we only play with some consistency on one side of the football.

  18. Noah 09/13/2008 at 4:35 PM #

    Correction – we are not starting a TE who is a walk-on…but a walk-on is seeing playing time there.

  19. Ismael 09/13/2008 at 4:41 PM #

    EZU is looking predictably human, if they can’t stop this last drive they’re gonna be in for a long week.

  20. Ismael 09/13/2008 at 4:43 PM #

    Noah, i thought you’d be interested, did u see that article about losing NC players to Clemson? They were talking to Landon Walker who started today as a freshman (or RFr) about how he was all set to come to State under Amato but Clemson showed him some love a week before signing day and he goes to Clemson…Amato called but, too late.

  21. Noah 09/13/2008 at 4:52 PM #

    I saw the piece in the N&O on Friday, if that’s the one you were talking about.

    Actually, today, I was looking around at some depth charts and thinking, “What if?”

    What if you added Walker and maybe another OL (maybe a center?) to our OL? What if you added Graham Harrell, from Tex Tech, who was a huge target of ours?

    You can do that every year, of course. It just hurts a little more during the lean years.

  22. Ismael 09/13/2008 at 4:59 PM #

    yea, that was the one from friday, and you’re right about doing some recent historical analysis, its head-shaking.

    For everyone who has complained about passing and receivers getting open etc..

    We have played against two teams USC and CU, who have some of not only the fastest CB’s/SS/FS in the country, but they are experienced as well.

    Georgia’s got a great QB/WR/OL and they are down 6-7 to USC. I don’t know about EZU, but USF is also another ranked team for a reason, and they are our next two opponents. Hopefully we are learning each week, it looks like we are, keep your heads about ya.

  23. SEAT.5.F.2 09/13/2008 at 5:03 PM #

    The goals stated on top were very fair. Get through w/o RW being carted off and w/o having to burn RS off Barnes.

    Can’t cheat the system. RS guys like RW and Rieskamp have been put into a hard situation this year. It sucks when you watch RW flip it out of bounds over and over and guys like Rieskamp have their ankles broken repeatedly by Spiller and co.

    The leadership of RW in the huddle is obvious; he is pint sized vs Rivers but they seem to both be very vocal and intense leaders

  24. VaWolf82 09/13/2008 at 5:04 PM #

    The offense was about what I expected.
    The defense did better than I expected.

    The fact that this game wasn’t the worst offensive performance we’ve seen over the last several years says alot about how badly State’s offense has consistently been.

    If Clemson wins the ACC with the team that I saw today, then the ACC is truly miserable.

  25. SEAT.5.F.2 09/13/2008 at 5:09 PM #

    I thought Mattes was considered a CU lean until he surprised virtually all of us. Many were surprised too of landing Lucas, even though it wasn’t CU but USC we were battling for those services.

    Scares me to think how programs like CU can convince three or four guys to sign at the same position and we think landing their fourth pick is a huge coup.

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