Carter-Finley Karaoke

NC State’s athletic department is currently taking votes for a sing-along anthem to be played between the third and fourth quarters at Carter-Finley Stadium. You can find the article and vote here.

Let’s take a look at the 3 songs mentioned in the first paragraph of the gopack.com article. First, “Sweet Caroline” was played at Red Sox games because Fenway’s music director had heard it played at other sporting events and would play it at random late in the game if the Sox were winning. The fans soon began to anticipate the song as a good luck charm and is now a tradition.

Second, “Hang On Sloopy” was played at Ohio State because a marching band member convinced the band director to let the marching band play the song. The crowd at the Horseshoe had a positive reaction so the band started to play it at every game and is now a tradition.

And third, House of Pain’s “Jump Around” (not Van Halen’s “Jump” as initally stated in the article. Imagine that, sloppy editing on gopack.com although it is now fixed) just happened to be played at Wisconsin in an ugly game against Purdue. It pumped up the crowd and the team and is now a tradition.

Notice a theme? None of these traditions were manufactured. A song just happened to be played at the stadium, the crowd liked it, so they played it again next game and now it is played every game. It just happened naturally, there were no polls or votes or anyone telling the fans what song they are supposed to like.

So NC State’s athletic department, on the cutting edge as usual, is trying to manufacture traditions because other teams are doing it too (see also the new wolf statue in the tunnel. The Cranberries album “Everybody Else Is Doing It, So Why Can’t We?” must be popular in the athletic department these days). Although, I’m not sure how we were going to naturally create a tradition when the jumbotron is usually playing a Fox 50 commercial, the wacky donkey House-Autry ad, win Chuck’s Truck or reminders to recycle (even though it is a worthwhile cause).

Now let’s take a look at the 5 finalist songs. I’m a big music fan, I may not be up on every new indie band but my iPod has a pretty wide range of music. So this is my take on these songs, you may or may not agree, I understand music taste is subjective.

First, “Hey Baby” by Bruce Channel. Decent choice, I’m neutral on this song. It’s not on my iPod but I don’t hate it either. Along with the Sugarhill Gang’s “Apache” it seems to have caught on some with the student section. Of course, instead of letting these songs catch on naturally we have to go through the official voting process.

Second, “You Give Love A Bad Name” by Bon Jovi. Really? That’s not even the best Bon Jovi option, I would have gone with “Livin’ On A Prayer”. If we have to have some 80s hair metal, why not Ozzy’s “Bark At The Moon” which would at least tie in with our mascot.

Third, “Song of the South” by Alabama. I know some of Alabama’s stuff, like the mountain music that grandma and grandpa used to play. But I have to admit I was not at all familiar with this song. Which adds a degree of difficulty for singing along plus are you really going to get the crowd to sing “Daddy was a veteran, a southern democrat, They oughta get a rich man to vote like that”? And nothing against country music, but it also plays into the redneck/tractor stereotype.

Fourth, “I Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty. I’ll say up front that I am a big Tom Petty fan, I celebrate the guy’s entire catalog. When you get a packed crowd at Walnut Creek singing along to the chorus it’s actually pretty cool and the lyrics are fitting and pretty easy to remember. But as much as I love this song, it just doesn’t strike me as a football pump you up type song or more of a fun song like “Hey Baby” and “Apache”.

Fifth, “Start Me Up” by the Rolling Stones. Starts off with another classic Stones riff but after the first line can you honestly sing the rest of the verse off the top of your head? Neither can I and I’ve probably heard the song at every Hurricanes game I’ve been to over the past 10 years. In its defense, the line in the chorus “You make a grown man cry” is actually pretty fitting for State athletics. But either nobody in the athletic department bothered to take the time to read the lyrics or Mick Jagger’s sexual innuendos went completely over their head. Just a sample of some of the lyrics are “I’ve been running hot, You got me ticking gonna blow my top“ or “If you rough it up, If you like it you can slide it up, slide it up” and of course “You make a dead man come”. Sounds like a perfect sing-along with your kids at the game doesn’t it?

Another problem I have with the finalists is that none of the songs have any sort of connection to the school. For example, as a WVU fan, “Country Roads” is a perfect song for Mountaineer Field, John Denver even played it live when the stadium was dedicated. There may not be a lot of wolf songs but just off the top of my head there are the aforementioned “Bark At The Moon”, Warren Zevon’s “Werewolves of London”, Duran Duran’s “Hungry Like The Wolf”, Metallica’s “Of Wolf And Man”, Whitesnake’s “Still Of The Night” and oldies like Sam the Sham and the Pharaoh’s “Li’l Red Riding Hood” and “Werewolf” by the Frantics (although more of an instrumental). At least a song like one of those would be unique and fitting and not just some song drawn out of a hat.

I can anticipate this being a colossal failure with half the crowd not even paying attention that we’re supposed to be singing now and the other half not knowing the words. And sprinkled in will be those of us who will refuse to participate on the grounds that manufactured new traditions like this have a high probability of lame.

About WV Wolf

Graduated from NCSU in 1996 with a degree in statistics. Born and inbred in West "By God" Virginia and now live in Raleigh where I spend my time watching the Wolfpack, the Mountaineers and the Carolina Hurricanes as well as making bar graphs for SFN. I'm @wvncsu on the Twitter machine.

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108 Responses to Carter-Finley Karaoke

  1. Dr. BadgerPack 08/20/2008 at 8:48 PM #

    Fresh for this season (let’s see who’s awake tonight!)– rewrite John Fogerty’s classic and call it “Quarterback”…

  2. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 9:01 PM #

    CStanley, couldn’t agree more!!! Just because NC State’s mascott is a wolf, and a 1980’s flash in the pan band named DuranDuran, once had a song with the word “wolf” in it, doesn’t make it a good song or anything to base something like this around.

    If anyone thinks this is a lame proposal to start with, then vote for “Hungry Like the Wolf” and it will all disappear before it even begins.

  3. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 9:35 PM #

    “Put me in coach, I’m ready to play, Quarterback…”

  4. #44 17 24 08/20/2008 at 9:51 PM #

    I’m sorry guys, but this song is hands down the greatest song for stadium chanters…

    Tarzan Boy by Baltimora

  5. choppack1 08/20/2008 at 10:17 PM #

    As far as the Ramones – Hey Ho Let’s Go would actually come close to working.

    I’m not a big “Hey Baby” fan – it’s done by too many other schools.

    I think the bigger point is that this reaks of trying too hard. Just how did they get the other 4 songs..Any song should be really simple…I think the crowd would do better singing Wooly Booly.

    I’ve got it…Lewey, Lewey, Ohh baby, we gotta go, yea, yea, yea, yea, yea…

    Let’s face it – just picture in mind, 50k people trying to sing, “Well, I won’t back down…In a world that keeps on dragging me down…” Or “Oooh, you’re a loaded gun” (probably not a good selection given the events a few years ago.)…

    You get my point – the song nneds to have a very simple, repeatable verse – that people from 5-60 can sing. None of the songs have anything but a catchy chorus.

  6. old13 08/20/2008 at 10:20 PM #

    What a joke! If it must be, it should be the theme from “The Beverly Hillbillies” . . . done satirically . . . for the obvious reason!

  7. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 10:22 PM #

    #44 17 24, I’m afraid you are correct!!! That song, the clothes, the make up especially, even Baltimora himself, they’re all bad ass.

    I wonder what hair salon that guy is working in these days? Nevermind, forget I assed.

  8. Mike 08/20/2008 at 10:22 PM #

    Redfred, great idea on Shama Lama Ding Dong. While we talk Animal House songs, how about Shout. One of my favorites and definitely get crowd participation.

    On a facetious note, how about Anticipation by Carly Simon? This certianly fits our plight – the anticipation of a new season only to fall flat again.

    Or better yet, for basketball and the HWSNBN sunshine squad – General Johnson and the Chairman of the Board – “Give me just a little more time”. How appropriate would that be?

  9. #44 17 24 08/20/2008 at 10:47 PM #

    We could just go back to Bodies, by Drowning Pool, like back in the 2000-01 season before we started playing Boom by P.O.D. for liek 6 years straight. Now just have it in the 3rd quarter.

  10. redfred2 08/20/2008 at 10:56 PM #

    Ray Charles, “What I Say”, although we probably ought to consider “Cryin’ Time” first.

    Or maybe, R-E-S-P-E-C-T, which would admittedly put our players and coaches on the spot late in every game, but which might not be such a bad idea afterall.

  11. ruffles31 08/20/2008 at 11:03 PM #

    WV Wolf and I have thought of a couple of more appropriate songs. With this being the Fowler era, how about these (warning, sarcasm meter is on full):

    “Misery” by Soul Asylum
    “Loser” by Beck
    “She thinks my Tractor’s sexy” by Kenny Chesney

  12. spanky 08/20/2008 at 11:13 PM #

    choppack – not to nit pick…. that song is entitled “Blitzkreig Bop” not “Hey Ho, Let’s Go”…. common mistake… (I’m a die hard Ramones fan who is too young to actually remember them)

  13. MrPlywood 08/21/2008 at 3:07 AM #

    Once again, I will nominate “Hungry Wolf” by X. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ag1-t-7dRI

    NOT the Duran Duran song. And X did play the Pier back in ’82.

    A few lyrics guaranteed to get the blood flowing and the fans howling:

    i am the hungry wolf and run endlessly with my mate i see the gutter feed on the foolish outrun and kill the strong at daybreak i roam awake to who follows me i roam i roam i am the hungry wolf and run endlessly with my mate welcome to the dripping jaws the author of your death at daybreak i roam ready to tear up the world…

    Now THAT’s a sing-along!

  14. FullMoonRising 08/21/2008 at 6:03 AM #

    I am thinking that something like, The Gambler, by Kenny Rogers would be most appropriate.

    You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em. Know when to walk away and know when to run.

  15. vtpackfan 08/21/2008 at 6:43 AM #

    We could all sing “Beverely Hillbilly’s” and hope a job at Pepperdine pop’s up.

  16. stormin norman 08/21/2008 at 7:33 AM #

    I will go take a p— after the third quarter.

  17. choppack1 08/21/2008 at 7:38 AM #

    spanky – you are correct sir.

  18. Rick 08/21/2008 at 7:51 AM #

    Let’s just play the sound track from Dirty Dancing
    Dumbest idea since Bynum decided to get a computer

  19. BoKnowsNCS71 08/21/2008 at 8:00 AM #

    Here’s a song that was a tradition back in 1967 when the Wolfpack under Coach Earle Edwards, QB – Jim Donnan, Dennis Byrd, Chuck Amato, Tony Barchuk, and the “White Shoes Defense” as they took the Pack up to 4th in the National Rankings going undefeated until two very last minute losses to Penn State and Clemson. That song was called “Keep the Ball Rolling” a popular song by Jay and the Techniques. While it has no allure to the kids of today – at the time the whole stadium would sing along to push the Pack on to victory.

  20. StatePhan 08/21/2008 at 8:09 AM #

    Hey why not Jimmy Buffett’s “Why don’t we get drunk and …?”

    Better yet, “Volcano” would be a good choice. We could come up with some great lines for the end of the song for numerous ACC schools.

  21. dubpack 08/21/2008 at 8:12 AM #

    Hey administraton, Fowler, whoever, there is no such thing as a “new tradition” so stop trying to create one. Its embaressing to the school. This idea will be a 100% failure, just like most of the ideas the past couple years. Probably the same guys who thought of the Mexi-Cam.

  22. Noah 08/21/2008 at 8:13 AM #

    Didn’t the Yardbirds do a pretty good version of “Train Kept A-Rollin?” That might be pretty cool.

    “Blitzkrieg Bop” is used by the Yankees. We’d have to delouse afterwards.

    Is the “Hey Baby” everyone is mentioning the old doo-wop song?

  23. St8Fan 08/21/2008 at 8:35 AM #

    Dr. BadgerPack:

    Did you just post a reference to “5-0?”

    What a GREAT place!

  24. old13 08/21/2008 at 8:35 AM #

    BTW the MOST appropriate line from the Beverly Hillbillies theme is ” . . . Jed, move away from there!”

  25. Ed89 08/21/2008 at 8:46 AM #

    ^^^You get my point – the song nneds to have a very simple, repeatable verse – that people from 5-60 can sing. None of the songs have anything but a catchy chorus.

    How ’bout “Do the hustle” Aren’t those the only 3 words in the song?

    Personally, I’d pick Volcano or Margaritaville by Buffett. “Well I don’t want to land in New York City, I don’t want to land in Chapel Hole….”

    Or Margaritaville, “some people claim that there’s a woman to blame, but I know, it’s ALL FOWLER’S FAULT”

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